Movie Defense Force: Hook
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OK Jim, I'll confess. Before even watching the video I was about to charge in here and say "Bullshit! This doesn't need defending! It's a great movie and everybody loves it!"
... then you mentioned that it was hammered by critics when it was released and that it has a bad score on Rotten Tomatoes. That honestly took me by surprise, so I went to IMDB and found out that it has a 6.5 there. Not a bad score at all, but honestly it feels kinda low for this movie. You were obviously right in defending Hook, but for the life of me I just don't get it. It's a fun movie. It's a good movie. Why the hell would it actually need defending?
... then you mentioned that it was hammered by critics when it was released and that it has a bad score on Rotten Tomatoes. That honestly took me by surprise, so I went to IMDB and found out that it has a 6.5 there. Not a bad score at all, but honestly it feels kinda low for this movie. You were obviously right in defending Hook, but for the life of me I just don't get it. It's a fun movie. It's a good movie. Why the hell would it actually need defending?
Wow! This was surprising.
I remembering liking Hook when it came out but, nowadays, I barely watch it in its entirety. I'm gonna have to sit down and view it when it plays on TV again. Maybe I'll get a better perspective on it.
As for Jim's mentioning of the lavish sets, I feel that is becoming a lost art with the rise of CGI. It's the same feeling when I watch Dick Tracy (one movie Jim needs to review, imo) when it plays on one of the cable movie channels. The painted backgrounds, the vibrant colors of the sets and costumes, and so on. It's one of those films where the phrase "They don't make them like this anymore" seems fitting. I know making movies is expensive, but isn't time that filmmakers took a step back and had a setting that wasn't made in post by a computer?
I remembering liking Hook when it came out but, nowadays, I barely watch it in its entirety. I'm gonna have to sit down and view it when it plays on TV again. Maybe I'll get a better perspective on it.
As for Jim's mentioning of the lavish sets, I feel that is becoming a lost art with the rise of CGI. It's the same feeling when I watch Dick Tracy (one movie Jim needs to review, imo) when it plays on one of the cable movie channels. The painted backgrounds, the vibrant colors of the sets and costumes, and so on. It's one of those films where the phrase "They don't make them like this anymore" seems fitting. I know making movies is expensive, but isn't time that filmmakers took a step back and had a setting that wasn't made in post by a computer?
Obligatory "This needed defending?" comment. But, I mean really, Hook is too good to need defending and it's a shame that it has to be. A quick box office search leads me to believe the movie did very well despite the critics though, so Hook won out in the end.
Was going to say the same thing. Never met a person who disliked this movie. It's one of my favorite childhood classics.JimB said:
I'm actually surprised that it's disliked that much because while I love that movie I know a lot of people that do as well.
The suicide scene is one of my favorite parts in the whole movie, and I loved Dustin Hoffman as Hook.
The critics saying that it's unimaginative is actually kind of funny given what the movie is about.
The suicide scene is one of my favorite parts in the whole movie, and I loved Dustin Hoffman as Hook.
The critics saying that it's unimaginative is actually kind of funny given what the movie is about.
"Let's not bother talking about the kids and Julia Roberts though." Yes thank you for that Jim. And you're right about Bob Hoskins as well, he can't not be brilliant. You've failed to mention one important thing though: music god Phil Collins is also in Hook for a minute! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0onDVbVum4
This was a favourite VHS of mine in my childhood and i've not watched it since. From what I can remember of it I thought that it was probably one of those films that was great when I was a kid but it was probably going to suck now. After watching this all my memories came flooding back to me and I am definetly going to give this another bash, if only to feel young again.
Where were we?
Well I was born a year after it was released and when I first saw it roughly a decade later, I loved it and had no idea that others didn't. That I found out now. Another decade later. that's 22 years, Jim. Many of us were still too young or... well... non-existent to argue about it on the internet. Oh, and we didn't have the internet either.
Well I was born a year after it was released and when I first saw it roughly a decade later, I loved it and had no idea that others didn't. That I found out now. Another decade later. that's 22 years, Jim. Many of us were still too young or... well... non-existent to argue about it on the internet. Oh, and we didn't have the internet either.
I think the majority of the dislike probably came from the movie taking an odd turn with Peter Pan growing up to be Robin Williams. Which I can understand.
I think the movie suffers from trying to not be the Disney movie, and having to make Peter Pan and Neverland work in live-action. It feels like the makers where trying to work around these issues, making it deviate maybe a bit too far from the source material.
But it definately has its merrit. I remember watching it quite a bit when I was younger. And I always loved the atmosphere, both of Neverland and of London.
Peter Pan no Boken blows it out of the water though.
I think the movie suffers from trying to not be the Disney movie, and having to make Peter Pan and Neverland work in live-action. It feels like the makers where trying to work around these issues, making it deviate maybe a bit too far from the source material.
But it definately has its merrit. I remember watching it quite a bit when I was younger. And I always loved the atmosphere, both of Neverland and of London.
Peter Pan no Boken blows it out of the water though.
Whoa, I had no idea this was disliked until now. I loved this movie. I remember having this on VHS and watching it multiple times. I also didn't even know it was Dustin Hoffman until about three years ago (yes, I liked this movie so much I still talk about it as an adult).
Good job Jim. Good defense.
Good job Jim. Good defense.
