Movie Defense Force: The Perfect Host

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The first film you have defended that i have honestly never heard of. thank you for that jim, i will go hunt it down it looks .. interesting :D
 

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wombat_of_war said:
The first film you have defended that i have honestly never heard of.
Seriously, how did this so severely fly under the radar? It came out in 2010, which was back when I still checked theater releases every week and I'd never heard of it either.

Wait, mystery solved. According to imdb, it was only released in America. Will go a-hunting for this one. Thanks, Jim.
 

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As above have said, never heard of it until now. shall have to watch it.

Rentable on Google Play, if you were wondering.
 

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I remember being excited to see this film. The insane fop is one of my favorite kind of movie madmen; eccentric, charming, and just slightly effeminate yet capable of sudden sadistic violence against those who don't play along. It almost feels cathartic--you cheer for the man who's enjoying himself and having a good time and despite yourself you want to play along, though the desire becomes less and less about having fun yourself and become more about appeasing the madman to escape his increasing wrath against those who don't enable his fantasy.

But this movie came and went so fast it made my head spin. It didn't even show up in the local theaters and vanished from the media hype machine faster than it took to film the thing. I never saw it until some time later but I have to say for my part, I enjoyed it. I think Pierce's character living in a fantasy world was a little too campy, and would have preferred a dinner party of guests who at first buy into Pierce's oddities but they and you slowly come to realize that his character has always been on the edge of sanity and the opportunity to have a real victim to play with has suddenly propelled him firmly into the crazy seat, but I suppose that would give John some unlikely allies or extra tormentors and turned this into a slasher flick.
 

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Hmmm. Looks right up my street. I feel guilty for never hearing of this movie but then I have a feeling it never left the US. Shame.
 

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SnakeoilSage said:
I think Pierce's character living in a fantasy world was a little too campy, and would have preferred a dinner party of guests who at first buy into Pierce's oddities but they and you slowly come to realize that his character has always been on the edge of sanity and the opportunity to have a real victim to play with has suddenly propelled him firmly into the crazy seat, but I suppose that would give John some unlikely allies or extra tormentors and turned this into a slasher flick.
I did get to see it when it came out and I loved the direction it went given that angle would've been too predictable. We've seen that done before even if it isn't all that often, but this, well, spoilers. Just in case.

The fact that Warwick isn't actually all that dangerous is quite unique and interesting. I was completely caught off-guard by the fact that John was just let go at the end of the night despite the fact that it could come back and bite Warwick in the ass later. It was the first time I saw a movie about the psychos who are clearly mentally unhinged but aren't actual killers, even if just pretending to be.
 

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I've seen it on Netflix before and I genuinely liked it. It's a bad Netflix movie, but it's got a sense of cleverness and Hyde Pierce just completely rocks his role. Some movies are saved by having the right actor and this is one of those. I would recommend it to anyone who has Netflix and some time to kill.
 

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Orekoya said:
SnakeoilSage said:
I think Pierce's character living in a fantasy world was a little too campy, and would have preferred a dinner party of guests who at first buy into Pierce's oddities but they and you slowly come to realize that his character has always been on the edge of sanity and the opportunity to have a real victim to play with has suddenly propelled him firmly into the crazy seat, but I suppose that would give John some unlikely allies or extra tormentors and turned this into a slasher flick.
I did get to see it when it came out and I loved the direction it went given that angle would've been too predictable. We've seen that done before even if it isn't all that often, but this, well, spoilers. Just in case.

The fact that Warwick isn't actually all that dangerous is quite unique and interesting. I was completely caught off-guard by the fact that John was just let go at the end of the night despite the fact that it could come back and bite Warwick in the ass later. It was the first time I saw a movie about the psychos who are clearly mentally unhinged but aren't actual killers, even if just pretending to be.
This movie is one of the reasons I love Netflix (and used to love HBO type channels): a chance to see something I likely wouldn't go to the theater for, but is a buried treasure that shouldn't be missed nonetheless.

Fantastic flick. STILL FLIPPIN AVAILABLE ON NETFLIX STREAMING! Now, all you couch potatoes, you must watch!!!
 

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A little surprised I've never even heard of this movie.

So it looks like... David Hyde Pierce... has a lot of imaginary friends...?

Maybe if I get a moment, I'll give it a look on Netflix.
 

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What's this? A movie I've not heard of!? I'm not incredibly intrigued. I'm also glad to know I'm not the only person the finds DHP not having a huge career after Frasier a little baffling. I'll have to try and hunt this down on Netflix.
 

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Is it still considered a Move Defense Force when the entire contingent of persons familiar with the film (detractors included) amounts to a total of seven, of which Jim counts for four?
 

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WHAT!?, how come I never heard of this little gem before?, I need to watch this soon.

Thanks Jim!.
 

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Thank you for presenting this, Jim! I haven't seen this movie yet but I absolutely must now.
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
The Perfect Host

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This seems less like a "Movie Defense Force" than an episode of "Movies You Probably Haven't Heard Of." I wasn't aware this movie was under attack... or of its existence.

Which raises an interesting philosophical question - how do you defend something that most likely doesn't exist?
 

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josh4president said:
Is it still considered a Move Defense Force when the entire contingent of persons familiar with the film (detractors included) amounts to a total of seven, of which Jim counts for four?
Lame joke aside, sticking up for something takes many forms. In this case, the injustice of a film that's been criminally overlooked.
 

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I watched this on Netflix when it showed up sometime last year. Even if the only thing it had going for it was DHP's performance, it'd be worth it. It's a well made film with a really great atmosphere. I especially like that the whole "imaginary friends" angle wasn't played as some final-act twist, so it doesn't spoil the movie at all to know it. This makes me want to watch it again . . .
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
josh4president said:
Is it still considered a Move Defense Force when the entire contingent of persons familiar with the film (detractors included) amounts to a total of seven, of which Jim counts for four?
Lame joke aside, sticking up for something takes many forms. In this case, the injustice of a film that's been criminally overlooked.
Just out of nosiness, what on earth are the words to the Movie Defence Force theme? I can never work it out.

Saw this a while ago, enjoyed it but wouldn't have said it was the best thing ever. Hyde pierce was great but I think it showed us a bit too much of his delusions. I think I would have preferred to have just not seen anything of what he saw. Although I suppose that could have it's own problems.
 

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Orekoya said:
The fact that Warwick isn't actually all that dangerous is quite unique and interesting. I was completely caught off-guard by the fact that John was just let go at the end of the night despite the fact that it could come back and bite Warwick in the ass later. It was the first time I saw a movie about the psychos who are clearly mentally unhinged but aren't actual killers, even if just pretending to be.
That was a unique take, though a bit odd given the context of the ending. Still, I applaud them for trying a new direction with the home-invasion genre.
 

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Orekoya said:
The fact that Warwick isn't actually all that dangerous is quite unique and interesting. I was completely caught off-guard by the fact that John was just let go at the end of the night despite the fact that it could come back and bite Warwick in the ass later. It was the first time I saw a movie about the psychos who are clearly mentally unhinged but aren't actual killers, even if just pretending to be.
I thought that Warwick had killed those other people and was only leaving John alive because he knew who John was and wanted to take the money.
 

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I wasn't aware this was one that even needed to be defended. I saw this on Netflix, thought it sounded interesting, watched it and liked it.

I've even shown it to other people and they all liked it.

Was it so hated?
 

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Come on Jim, this movie is one of the best movies I've ever seen.
Did it truly need defending...?
 

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I heard about this movie when it came to Netflix a couple of years ago. The premis looked so good that I made plans to watch it with a friend. I'm glad you keep defending things I like. I think there was maybe one you defended that I didn't agree with But I don't remember what it was. I was going to say i wasn't going to look, but now I'm thinking about it....Hold on....AH wait two. Transformers and Star Wars ep1.
 

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This is a brilliant film. I absolutely loved it. Should have gotten more attention for sure.
 

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I thought that Warwick had killed those other people and was only leaving John alive because he knew who John was and wanted to take the money.
If I recall correctly, at the very end you get a glimpse of a board in his office that has pictures of the corpses of his "friends" on it. I took that to mean that they're based on murder victims in cases he investigated.
 

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I love David Hyde Pierce and this is one movie I was waiting to see. Unfortunately we never got it as a rental (I work at an actual video rental store, they still exist in some parts, though our time is limited) and was really disappointed. Good to know that it is as slightly dark and a bit campy (in a good way) as I was hoping.
 

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Come on Jim, this movie is one of the best movies I've ever seen.
Did it truly need defending...?
This series is not based on what you, personally, think about movies.
 

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Just finished watching it. As you said, the ending dragged on a bit, and overall I found it a bit anti-climactic.
 

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For those who are asking if this film needed defending, thus far, Jim has defended films against the opinions of critics, the opinions of the general public and the opinions of fans who felt they hadn't been served in the way they were entitled to be. In this case it seems Jim is defending this film against the opinions of publicists and publishers. People throughout the publishing and publicity process of this film seem to have been of the opinion that we wouldn't be interested in it.

"Should we give it an international release?" Publisher: "Nah. No one would go see it anyway." Jim: "Hell yes!"

"Should we give it a long enough run for people to find it?" Publisher: "Nah." Jim: "Hell yes!"

"Should we tell anyone that we are releasing it?" "Should we release it on Netflix in the UK as well as the US?"... and so on.

Jim is still fighting misguided opinion about the film, it's just that it is an opinion we didn't even hear about because no one bothered to tell us the film even existed.
 

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I've legitimately never heard of this. I'm going to give it a watch tonight! Thanks, Jim!
 

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Well, this made me go and watch it, and I enjoyed almost every second. Thanks for the tip Jim.
 

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Yeah it was not a mainstream film because mainstream audiences dont like challenging, difficult or anything that really goes too far out of their comfort zone.

Other note: If you are taking suggestions, Do "The Last Airbender" in an upcoming ep. I watched it today for the first time and really I fail to get what was supposedly so horrific about this film to merit a 20 on Metacritic & 4.4 on IMDB when the films worst traits consisted of being designed for its actual target demographic of older kids to early teens, and the conflict of name pronunciations
 

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Poodleboy said:
For those who are asking if this film needed defending, thus far, Jim has defended films against the opinions of critics, the opinions of the general public and the opinions of fans who felt they hadn't been served in the way they were entitled to be. In this case it seems Jim is defending this film against the opinions of publicists and publishers. People throughout the publishing and publicity process of this film seem to have been of the opinion that we wouldn't be interested in it.

"Should we give it an international release?" Publisher: "Nah. No one would go see it anyway." Jim: "Hell yes!"

"Should we give it a long enough run for people to find it?" Publisher: "Nah." Jim: "Hell yes!"

"Should we tell anyone that we are releasing it?" "Should we release it on Netflix in the UK as well as the US?"... and so on.

Jim is still fighting misguided opinion about the film, it's just that it is an opinion we didn't even hear about because no one bothered to tell us the film even existed.
That might be the case if Jim had mentioned any of those issues in the video at all, but he didn't. I mean, I like Jim, but it's kind of weird to make up a whole bunch of stuff that he is supposedly arguing, when he has never bought them up.

How would you like it if somebody attributed arguments to you that you never said? You're literally putting words in his mouth.
 

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MisterColeman said:
Orekoya said:
The fact that Warwick isn't actually all that dangerous is quite unique and interesting. I was completely caught off-guard by the fact that John was just let go at the end of the night despite the fact that it could come back and bite Warwick in the ass later. It was the first time I saw a movie about the psychos who are clearly mentally unhinged but aren't actual killers, even if just pretending to be.
I thought that Warwick had killed those other people and was only leaving John alive because he knew who John was and wanted to take the money.
No, Warwick was just an expert at movie makeup and faked all the others just like he faked this one. He caused the fear without actually hurting anyone, the perfect host. A guy who just treats his intruders weirdly isn't really a crime especially given the fact that they were intruding. And those acts alone are enough fulfillment for his insanity, which given that he's a police lieutenant known to be on anti-psychotics, the internal department probably monitors him too closely for him to be some uncaught serial killer anyways.
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
daxterx2005 said:
Come on Jim, this movie is one of the best movies I've ever seen.
Did it truly need defending...?
This series is not based on what you, personally, think about movies.
Jim has finally replied to one of my posts!
Thank God for him.
 

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daxterx2005 said:
Jim has finally replied to one of my posts!
Thank God for him.
And yet he completely avoided the question. I wonder why he even bothers to respond if he's not going to bother saying anything meaningful in his responses.
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
The Perfect Host

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As soon as I saw the title of the movie, I was upset. This movie doesn't need defenders. It's awesome.

Then I checked its Tomatometer Score. I gave it a positive review, but apparently I'm in in the minority there.

Fortunately, it did make a profit on the home market, so it was rewarded in the end.
 

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Aardvaarkman said:
daxterx2005 said:
Jim has finally replied to one of my posts!
Thank God for him.
And yet he completely avoided the question. I wonder why he even bothers to respond if he's not going to bother saying anything meaningful in his responses.
He did answer the question. This series reviews movies that earned bad reviews. Just because daxterx2005 liked the movie doesn't negate the fact that it earned weak reviews.
 

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He did answer the question. This series reviews movies that earned bad reviews. Just because daxterx2005 liked the movie doesn't negate the fact that it earned weak reviews.
No, he didn't answer the question. This is what Jim said:

"This series is not based on what you, personally, think about movies."

But he does not answer the question of why this movie needed defending. He also sis not say anything about "bad reviews." He could have taken the opportunity to say exactly what this series is supposed to be about, but instead he acted condescendingly - as if the question was stupid and not worth answering.

Maybe you can point out where Jim has explained the rationale behind the series? Because you seem to be putting words into Jim's mouth and making up your own reason for the series. Meanwhile, Jim for some reason is acting like his reasons for doing the series are some kind of big secret that we don't deserve an explanation of.

Your argument about the series is about films that got bad reviews falls apart when he does episodes on movies that got good reviews.
 

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This movie's been sitting in my Netflix queue for a while. I think this video just provided me the impetus to actually sit down and watch it.
 

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Aardvaarkman said:
He also sis not say anything about "bad reviews."
He did so in the video.

Aardvaarkman said:
He could have taken the opportunity to say exactly what this series is supposed to be about
Have you listened to the theme song?

It's about defending movies that society thinks are bad. Overall reviews are certainly part of that.

If you think the film is good, great, but that doesn't change the public's perception of the film.

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Your argument about the series is about films that got bad reviews falls apart when he does episodes on movies that got good reviews.
If, not when.

It hasn't happened so far.
 

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C.S.Strowbridge said:
Aardvaarkman said:
He also sis not say anything about "bad reviews."
He did so in the video.
I wasn't talking about the video, I was talking about his response here.

C.S.Strowbridge said:
Have you listened to the theme song?
It's unintelligible.

Aardvaarkman said:
It's about defending movies that society thinks are bad. Overall reviews are certainly part of that.
But they aren't the same thing. "Society" can think a movie is "bad" that got good critical reviews.

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If, not when.

It hasn't happened so far.
Yes, it has. He did The Phantom Menace, which not only got good reviews at the time, was a massive box-office success.

Anyway, you are again speaking for Jim, and making up criteria for his selections that he hasn't confirmed. I'm pretty sure that he just chooses whatever the hell he wants, and doesn't have any real criteria, but again, that's also speculation.
 

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I actually saw this in a theatre. I was totally unaware people thought it was bad. I thought it was awesome, and super creepy.
 

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SwimmingRock said:
wombat_of_war said:
The first film you have defended that i have honestly never heard of.
Seriously, how did this so severely fly under the radar? It came out in 2010, which was back when I still checked theater releases every week and I'd never heard of it either.

Wait, mystery solved. According to imdb, it was only released in America. Will go a-hunting for this one. Thanks, Jim.
Magnolia/Magnet are good at picking out winning films for release, but not so good at advertising them, or doing wide releases. The only reason you hear of gems like Trollhunter is via the internet. Magnolia seems to only advertise via promos on their DVDs/Blu-Rays, and only does limited releases for a lot of great movies.
 
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How did I not hear about this movie? David Hyde Pierce = me going to have to see it! Thanks for the heads up Jim.

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The only reason you hear of gems like Trollhunter is via the internet. Magnolia seems to only advertise via promos on their DVDs/Blu-Rays, and only does limited releases for a lot of great movies.
Trollhunter was f'n brilliant. I stumbled across it by total accident.
 

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O maestre said:
thanks jim I never would have found this gem without you 😏
Pretty much this. I've seen just about every other movie you've defended, but this is one I'd never heard of before I saw this episode, which is a shame because this movie is right in my wheelhouse. I really love quirky dark comedies like this. I agree that the only real problem with the movie is that it doesn't know how to end itself, but the first three quarters of the movie are strong enough that I don't mind a bit of a weak ending.