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Things tend to get better the more bad imitators or sequels there are. People didn't like the Star Wars prequels until the sequels came out, people have complaints about the LotR films until the Hobbit films came out, then complaints about that until RoP. Bad 80's action movies aren't so bad now there's so many bad modern ones, etc.
 

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Things tend to get better the more bad imitators or sequels there are. People didn't like the Star Wars prequels until the sequels came out, people have complaints about the LotR films until the Hobbit films came out, then complaints about that until RoP. Bad 80's action movies aren't so bad now there's so many bad modern ones, etc.
That's nothing new nor a hot take. It's called vindicated by history or appreciating what was there to begin with. A lot of the action I liked watching from the 80s and 90s I never even call bad in the first place. They've aged far better than a lot of those action films that came out during the mid 2000s to mid 2010s, where most were all trying to copy the Bourne Supremacy. With all those quick cuts and shaky cam nonsense. Most people don't even want to look at again. I'm glad it's not an unpopular opinion.
 

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It's time. Time to defend a movie nobody liked starring actors nobody liked about topics people allegedly don't like (even though decades of democratic election results kinda implies the total opposite?). Theoretically, no-one cares or remembers enough by now and will leave me the fuck alone cos "the discourse" back then was appealing as a pool of pissed off piranhas. Hopefully everyone's too depressed and dissociated now to come at me for something I don't have the energy to be dragged into a back n forth with.

*downs morphine n whiskey cocktail*

So, Don't Look Up had one consistent criticism I never quite vibed with. From ppl I generally respect also, that it's not gonna convince anyone that ain't already somewhat in the sphere of, well, believing climate change is real? If we're going by the commonly accepted metaphor anyway. And for most other subjects I would completely agree a different approach would've improved it.

However, by this point, by the time it released, somewhere between a trump presidency and the growing popularity of qanon as it slowly seeped into the mainstream conservative political parties across the world...the topic of climate change scientists regularly warned us since 70's - through 80's - 90's - activists warned - the 00's - journalists/columnists/media figures and some sidelined politicians warned - the 10''s - an emotional plea to the world by a teenage girl warned but was treated with sniveling contempt and creepy sexualised memes by politically motived trolls to demean n diminish any possible credit they could, approaching the 20's - the age conspiracy started to take hold - it became clear no-one was listening who'd be able to do something about it at all, it didn't matter who the message was coming from, the money and power was just too good!

So, seriously, actually think: who the fuck was still on the fence by that point, who could've been swayed to admit climate change is a real threat?

It wasn't trying to win anyone over, there wasn't anyone left. It was expressing an existential frustrated scream into an all consuming pitch black dead void like Drew Barrymore's scene in Donnie Darko;

Which I thought was made obvious by the whole, like, you know, plot and ending emphasising utter helplessness, as they slept stumbled into their own extinction. But evidently at the time others didn't quite see it. Perhaps they still had hope?
 
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It's time. Time to defend a movie nobody liked starring actors nobody liked about topics people allegedly don't like (even though decades of democratic election results kinda implies the total opposite?). Theoretically, no-one cares or remembers enough by now and will leave me the fuck alone cos "the discourse" back then was appealing as a pool of pissed off piranhas. Hopefully everyone's too depressed and dissociated now to come at me for something I don't have the energy to be dragged into a back n forth with.

*downs morphine n whiskey cocktail*

So, Don't Look Up had one consistent criticism I never quite vibed with. From ppl I generally respect also, that it's not gonna convince anyone that ain't already somewhat in the sphere of, well, believing climate change is real? If we're going by the commonly accepted metaphor anyway. And for most other subjects I would completely agree a different approach would've improved it.

However, by this point, by the time it released, somewhere between a trump presidency and the growing popularity of qanon as it slowly seeped into the mainstream conservative political parties across the world...the topic of climate change scientists regularly warned us since 70's - through 80's - 90's - activists warned - the 00's - journalists/columnists/media figures and some sidelined politicians warned - the 10''s - an emotional plea to the world by a teenage girl warned but was treated with sniveling contempt and creepy sexualised memes by politically motived trolls to demean n diminish any possible credit they could, approaching the 20's - the age conspiracy started to take hold - it became clear no-one was listening who'd be able to do something about it at all, it didn't matter who the message was coming from, the money and power was just too good!

So, seriously, actually think: who the fuck was still on the fence by that point, who could've been swayed to admit climate change is a real threat?

It wasn't trying to win anyone over, there wasn't anyone left. It was expressing an existential frustrated scream into an all consuming pitch black dead void like Drew Barrymore's scene in Donnie Darko;

Which I thought was made obvious by the whole, like, you know, plot and ending emphasising utter helplessness, as they slept stumbled into their own extinction. But evidently at the time others didn't quite see it. Perhaps they still had hope?
-Don't Look Up
It was an OK satire, it's not near the level of good South Park satire. I kinda felt most of it was really easy shots that really didn't have much weight to them. And this movie is way too fucking long. There were a few good lines in the movie like the following line from Jonah Hills character:

There's three types of American people. There are you, the working class. Us, the cool rich, and then them. *crowd boos* I'm sorry, but we need them. We need them because you build us up to fight them.

Now that's a pretty insightful line. I wish the movie had a lot more of that.

Also, why the fuck did that general change them for free snacks?! 😂
 

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Ok, so I got round to getting all the seasons of Supergirl on DVD, having 1 and 2 already and having seen 3 and 4. Rewatching season 3, ep 16 has a bit where they have to save the directors of a health insurance company from a "villain" who wants to kill them for refusing to pay for people's insurance.

That has aged pretty badly.
 
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