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Now that's kind of a shame.
I know that I haven't always agreed with Bob, but he was always quite an eloquent and intelligent contributor to this website. To be fair to Bob, he always did have a high opinion of himself - but I always thought he had the intellect to back it up.

But for all his venom, I don't think he would have spread most of it if it were not for this whole Gamergate thing. Personally, I think this Gamergate thing has brought out the very worst in everyone. From the common gamer, to Bob himself.

Come what may, I do wish Bob well. I find him to be a good man at heart and that I do hope he's back up on his feet quite soon.
 

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Regardless of what people think of MovieBob ... I actually enjoyed the majority of his content.

Reminds me of when people despised Jim Sterling at first because of his commentary + videos. Then by some miracle, the lad really improved and became an astounding member, if not a top tier guy on par with Yahtzee (is that why Yahtzee decided to do a series with him about making rhymes? Lol).

MovieBob is less or more the same. Love em, hate him... you can't deny he's done some incredible work around these parts.
It's really sad to see him go. At least it didn't go down like how Extra Credits went. Anyone remember that contravesty? Ugh .......

Still, he'll be missed. Least he can make a name for himself elsewhere and hopefully pick right back up.
I plan to support Bob by buying his book and watching his content on his site. Whatever happened to Extra credits anyway? I remember there was something about payment and an arm or something.
 

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Good. I'm tired of hearing how horrible middle America is and how women are oppressed violently by the patriarchy. I'm tired of hearing about how everyone who disagrees with him is a boorish asshole who hates blacks/women/minorities. I'm tired of hearing him arguing about how modern gaming is a parade of death and despair and retro games are untouchable masterpieces of design.

I miss the old Bob who would speak viciously and never pull his punches. His early reviews, when he says Megan Fox is hot in the same way a bacon cheeseburger is delicious, were fucking awesome. He was vicious. He was uncut, and he wasn't afraid of offending people. Then he says that "Check your privilege" in one of the Big Picture episodes. Then everyone who wasn't on his side got lumped in with the sociopathic dudebros. Then movies started to NEED to be cast according to race and sex, according to him. I'm sorry Bob, but you've become the cancer that is eating away at society now.
 

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Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
 

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Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
 

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Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wow, Extra Credits always seemed pretty inoffensive. They always left me feeling chipper. If you don't mind me asking, what on earth did James do to put him on the same level as someone like moviebob? I know he disproves of gamer gate, but I haven't seen him do anything to bad that I'm aware of. He certainly hasn't been calling people subhuman. Unless he has, of course.
 

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Yep if Yartz leaves now so do I, Jim, Movie Bob and Yartz are 99.5% of the reason I came, now it's just zero punctuation...
 

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Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
 

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He hasn't really. EC came out against GG, then had a bit of a slap-fight with TB, who himself has been advising GG and using a fair number of their talking points lately.

Dunno how TB and EC feel about each other now, but that's largely immaterial. GG picked up on "James is against TB and said mean things about a cancer patient" and "anti-GG" picked up on "TB discounted death threats made against anti-gg and is siding with GG" and things have gone stupid.
 

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"Glad" to know that the mound of shit that is GooblyGaga is still alive and well here.

Anyways, as occasionally toxic as Bob could be at times I'll still probably miss him. I certainly respected his opinions on things and could generally with few exceptions see where he was coming from even if I disagreed with him. I'm unlikely to migrate to another site solely for his videos, so unless he makes drama again in the future this is probably it.
 

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Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2

These tweets in an attempt to discredit TB's points about the problems with industry corruption, by the way, was after TB had done several favors for James. Like promoting him and having him as a special guest on (I believe the first episode of) his popular podcast.
 

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Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/905/925/b2b.png

I wouldn't personally call him a toxic individual, but he did pretty much attack the guy over nothing. The "I hear what i hear" bit is what really bothers me, it shows such a lack of concern for the truth of what he was saying.

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Ratty said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2

These in an attempt to discredit TB's points about the problems with industry corruption, by the way, was after TB had done several favors for James. Like promoting him and having him as a special guest on (I believe the first episode of) his popular podcast.
I disagree with bringing up the chemo thing so strongly. TB's been going through a rough time, but he's never asked anybody to handle him with kids gloves and he's never held back from weighing in where he feels appropriate. I honestly dont think the guy would want people to use it as a shield against criticism (legitimate or otherwise)
 

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Ratty said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2
Thank you for only providing evidence to one side of the story, and not actually show any of the tweets in question that are slander. I'll read what TB has to say, but without the context I'm not going to really be able to make a full reasonable judgement on it all.
 

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Dr. Crawver said:
Ratty said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2
Thank you for only providing evidence to one side of the story, and not actually show any of the tweets in question that are slander. I'll read what TB has to say, but without the context I'm not going to really be able to make a full reasonable judgement on it all.
I did not link to James's tweets which TB responds to in the second link because TB copied them into the twitlonger to respond to them directly. TB goes over what James said at the convention in the first thing I linked but if you want confirmation there is a youtube video of the panel where James says this which you can look up if you care to.
 

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Dr. Crawver said:
Ratty said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2
Thank you for only providing evidence to one side of the story, and not actually show any of the tweets in question that are slander. I'll read what TB has to say, but without the context I'm not going to really be able to make a full reasonable judgement on it all.
The second twitlonger actually did contain all the tweets James made on the subject. The only other piece to this is the original video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3QZqD3OQbM
 

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The Bucket said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/905/925/b2b.png

I wouldn't personally call him a toxic individual, but he did pretty much attack the guy over nothing. The "I hear what i hear" bit is what really bothers me, it shows such a lack of concern for the truth of what he was saying.
Scanned it to read the twitter quotes themselves, and I won't disagree that the tone is a little...questionable, especially since it does seem to have the vibe of forgone conclusions wrapped in a question, but really if this was enough for people to make people demonize James, I really do find that sad, since he's gone all over the world to genuinely help the games industry.

Feels a little bit like a storm in a teacup, which so much of this always is.

Want to say thank you though for actually providing a source with the twitter comments, even if it means I now have even more of TBs own writings to read just to see his side :p
 

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The Bucket said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Ratty said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2
Thank you for only providing evidence to one side of the story, and not actually show any of the tweets in question that are slander. I'll read what TB has to say, but without the context I'm not going to really be able to make a full reasonable judgement on it all.
The second twitlonger actually did contain all the tweets James made on the subject. The only other piece to this is the original video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3QZqD3OQbM
Huh, so it does. No idea why I failed to see that first time, while your post I noticed it instantly. I'm not a smart man at times.
 

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Dr. Crawver said:
The Bucket said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Ratty said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Dr. Crawver said:
Rednog said:
Good.
He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2
Thank you for only providing evidence to one side of the story, and not actually show any of the tweets in question that are slander. I'll read what TB has to say, but without the context I'm not going to really be able to make a full reasonable judgement on it all.
The second twitlonger actually did contain all the tweets James made on the subject. The only other piece to this is the original video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3QZqD3OQbM
Huh, so it does. No idea why I failed to see that first time, while your post I noticed it instantly. I'm not a smart man at times.
I know the feeling, so tired right now i'm abusing the hell out of spellcheck to have posts be slightly legible
 

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Regardless of what people think of MovieBob ... I actually enjoyed the majority of his content.

Reminds me of when people despised Jim Sterling at first because of his commentary + videos. Then by some miracle, the lad really improved and became an astounding member, if not a top tier guy on par with Yahtzee (is that why Yahtzee decided to do a series with him about making rhymes? Lol).

MovieBob is less or more the same. Love em, hate him... you can't deny he's done some incredible work around these parts.
It's really sad to see him go. At least it didn't go down like how Extra Credits went. Anyone remember that contravesty? Ugh .......

Still, he'll be missed. Least he can make a name for himself elsewhere and hopefully pick right back up.
I plan to support Bob by buying his book and watching his content on his site. Whatever happened to Extra credits anyway? I remember there was something about payment and an arm or something.
Alrighty, take a seat my boy. I'll try making this brief but ... *ahem*

It took place around June 28th, 2011... Portnow announced through the show's Twitter account that Theus had a radial tear in her shoulder (likely a separated shoulder) that could potentially end her career. A two-month crowdfund project on RocketHub was created with a goal of $15,000, which eventually raised around $104,000. The crew, overwhelmed at the response, decided to start an independent game publisher with the excess profits.

Around the end of July, The Escapist privately contacted Portnow with a disputing claim for the funds. Alexander Macris, content director for The Escapist and current general manager for Alloy Digital, led the claim and stated the money should have been used to create more episodes of Extra Credits and to compensate parent company Themis Media for donation incentives, such as premium memberships and T-shirts. As a result, Extra Credits broke ties with The Escapist, and after a brief four-week stint posting directly to YouTube, the show was picked up by Penny Arcade's PATV network.

Proof: Extra Credits History [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Credits].

So in other words, Extra Credit's main fellow Alex decided to screw the contract over by using the money on a privately owned indie studio instead of improving their show on the website... that they ran. While both sides weren't exactly innocent, at least our CM at the time was very blunt with his reasons / actions while Extra Credit tried looking innocent and pointing fingers.

They lost my respect, and totally dissed all their fans on here without considering what was best. Sure we could just check them out on Youtube, but couldn't Yahtzee, Jim, and whomever else do the same? It's not a matter of where the content lies, but how they perform on the website with the topics relating to the community. If they went to Youtube, their episodes wouldn't revolve around Escapist member's interests. Now I barely if not HARDLY hear anything about Extra Credits anymore. Even one of their main buds left Extra Credits to do their own thing... so yea.
That sucks. I always liked Extra Credits and I was sad when I didn't see their show listed on the site anymore. With that $104,00.00 couldn't they have done all of those things though? Get Theus's arm fixed, compensate The Escapist for donation incentives, fund Extra Credits, and also open a small publishing studio? That may have been stretching it but with that amount of money I feel it would have been doable.
 

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He can go sit in the same toxic trash dump that Extra Credits is in. Seriously there's only two guys who I consider absolute scumbags and it's Moviebob and James Portnow. Hopefully the escapist will get some good content to fill the gap.
Wait, I'm actually a little taken aback by this. How is James a scumbag? Genuinely curious.
During a convention and after on twiiter he trashed Total Biscuit; he accused Total Biscuit of being a GG leader, of corruption, taking money from developers and lying about it, lying to fans etc. Just a whole litany of toxic tweets and nonsense. TB replied and James's reply was pretty much if I cared for your response I would have @'d you directly, and I'm too busy for you I'm at a friend's wedding. During this slew of crap TB was at chemotherapy.
So, he had and voiced his opinion about one man that you disagree with and so that makes him a toxic personality?

Can you give me any links to some examples, because honestly without definitive quotes I'm not going to really believe it's as toxic as you say, not to mention that I do actually kinda agree with a bit of the sentiment. I personally feel TB is horrendously over-hyped and put on a far higher pedestal than he deserves.
No, he didn't voice his opinion. He slandered Totalbiscuit, he lied, plain and simple. And when he was called on his blatant lie his response was "I hear what I hear" if you're going to accuse someone of taking bribes, do a little research. When TB responded to his accusations on twitter here http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53 James waited, like a fucking coward, until TB said he would be leaving twitter to get chemotherapy to respond. Turned out TB hadn't left yet and responded to Portnow's cowardly attacks point/tweet by tweet here. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbco2
Thank you for only providing evidence to one side of the story, and not actually show any of the tweets in question that are slander. I'll read what TB has to say, but without the context I'm not going to really be able to make a full reasonable judgement on it all.
I did not link to James's tweets which TB responds to in the second link because TB copied them into the twitlonger to respond to them directly. TB goes over what James said at the convention in the first thing I linked but if you want confirmation there is a youtube video of the panel where James says this which you can look up if you care to.
I want to apologise, you are right that the tweets are there. Bit hard to find at first given all the text, but you did actually give me them.

Also someone else showed me the video. Really there was 2-3 lines on TB, and even gave a citation (that admittedly might be incorrect, I don't know, never read that article). But until it's debunked, he's not committing slander, rather carrying potentially misguided information from someone else's slander attempt.

Still not really seeing this as being much more than a storm in a teacup.

And finally I'm not really going to say much more on this as the thread is about Moviebob, and I feel I've sidetracked it enough for one day.