MS Confirms Online Connection, Game Borrowing and Used Game Details

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Cobalt180

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"Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

So Microsoft has essentially virtualized going over to your friend's house to play games with them, only that now you have to pay a toll to do it? I'm sorry, but, when I go to a friends house and we play games, that is something that you, nor publishers, are allowed to infringe upon, and doing so violates the Right of First Sale, and if those publishers and companies are so greedy that they want to make me pay for that, then they won't get my First Sale in the first place.

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend's house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time."

My 'Shared Game Library' are the rather pathetic line of discs sitting next to my xbox. While no one else plays those games but me, I still take issue that even members of your OWN FAMILY have to basically prostrate themselves before the xbox to play games, and even then, I have to have a Shared Game Library for this? No, you're overcomplicating a simple process that, while I admire you want to get involved in to help, but you're doing it wrong, and that, as will almost all other things on this list, are only going to shoot yourself in the foot.
 

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AT God said:
I would love to believe that there is an invisible hand that forces companies to make stupid decisions to keep the balance of power between the consoles.

When the PS3 came out and was clearly the better console (HARDWARE WISE), some shadowy figure told Sony they had to sell it for 600 dollars, making the Xbox 360 the breakout console and getting more money out of the gate. Now the same figure is going to Microsoft to make them load down the Xbox 1 with a bunch of garbage so the PS4 can come out and get the initial big money. (Sony will probably add stupid stuff too and ruin this fantasy of mine)

I just hope that when I finally decide I want to buy a console to play all the exclusive games I have missed since 2005 (Ratchet and Clank and God of War only), I will be able to buy a PS3 cheap like I can buy a PS2 cheap now. Something tells me the next step of console devs is to control pricing of their previous, more independent systems.

Maybe Nvidia will ruin everything and make a high quality GFX card for like 100 bucks and make Microsoft and Sony suffer.
You can play Skyrim on Ultra with a 120$ card these days. Though I'm worried that the game devs will completely forget about mid end hardware when the new consoles come out.
 

The Floating Nose

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This will be the only time in my ENTIRE life as a gamer that the reason that i'll buy a console (IF i buy one) for the next gaming generation will be not because the games on this one are interesting or that it offers great titles it will be based on the reason that, I'll buy this console cause "it doesnt look as shitty as the other two".

I just CAN'T BELIEVE that this console (probably the PS4) will win a place in my house by DEFAULT !

But im seriously thinking about sticking to my brand new Behemoth of a PC to play games and my PS3 for PS1 games and Blu-Ray.
 

-Dragmire-

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StriderShinryu said:
"...Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."
Wow, Microsoft is so generous! I get some of the benefits of the X1, like being able to watch tv and play blueray/ dvds without an internet connection, without owning the actual console! What will they think of next!


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Adeptus Aspartem said:
Jeah.. the last console i bought was a SNES, and i doubt the future generation is going to change that.
Not a bad console to end with.

Also while mentioning SNES i've to replay Rock n' Roll Racing one again.. for the umpthiest-time

JACKASS!! You got a physical copy!? The collector in me is filled with a jealous anger!
 

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Cobalt180 said:
"Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games. Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

So Microsoft has essentially virtualized going over to your friend's house to play games with them, only that now you have to pay a toll to do it? I'm sorry, but, when I go to a friends house and we play games, that is something that you, nor publishers, are allowed to infringe upon, and doing so violates the Right of First Sale, and if those publishers and companies are so greedy that they want to make me pay for that, then they won't get my First Sale in the first place.

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend's house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time."

My 'Shared Game Library' are the rather pathetic line of discs sitting next to my xbox. While no one else plays those games but me, I still take issue that even members of your OWN FAMILY have to basically prostrate themselves before the xbox to play games, and even then, I have to have a Shared Game Library for this? No, you're overcomplicating a simple process that, while I admire you want to get involved in to help, but you're doing it wrong, and that, as will almost all other things on this list, are only going to shoot yourself in the foot.
Agreed, my shared games library sits there in its cases next to the machine. So this 'feature' now has a level of control and restriction. The major problem is that all our arguing, all our crying out all our fault finding in the logic of the Xbone is for naught. The machine is finished, the software compiled and like it or not this is what will be released. When Halo 5 is released the console will sell, and 12 no the from now the Xbone will be all we have, and all we have ever known. So I'm joining the PC master race...
 

Sonicron

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The more we can spread the news by word of mouth the better. Tell friends and coworkers you know play games so they know that this console is a piece of shit they should avoid.

Also thank you! I would have preferred a Chibi Thousand Son but I couldn't find one :p
I'm sadly rather isolated as a gamer, i.e. I have literally no close friends or fellow students who are into console gaming. I do, however, write reviews and other assorted articles for an e-zine, the main target demographic of which are teens and young adults, so I guess I could cover the new console gen there and spread the word that way.

Your only mission for today is to find Chibi Rubric Marine. Go go gadget interwebz! xD
 

StriderShinryu

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-Dragmire- said:
StriderShinryu said:
"...Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."
Wow, Microsoft is so generous! I get some of the benefits of the X1, like being able to watch tv and play blueray/ dvds without an internet connection, without owning the actual console! What will they think of next!
Hey, based on the initial reveal event, they're basically letting you do almost all of what the One is for, so it is a pretty big deal.. ish?

My favourite part of their info dump is when they talk about how the One lets anyone play yoiur games on your console while logged into your account as if that's some new feature that's never been done before.
 

theultimateend

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I don't agree with that at all. So what happens if all the sudden nobody buys any games, because we are all standing up for what is holy (in your opinion)? Its not like these huge publishers are going to go away and all these small publishers are going to rise up and take their place and NOT implement something similar. It would be a wonderful world if everything was done for the "love of it" but that is just not reality.
What you do is you let them die.

Then you support new people who don't do these things.

If they continue not to do them GREAT.

If they start doing them you let them die.

That's uh...that's kinda how its supposed to work >.>.
 

Tony2077

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doesn't seem like its evil just more annoying then it should be. even i have to draw the line somewhere
 

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Wow, just ... wow.

I'm so glad I got out of consoles when they decided to shaft backwards compatibility .....

So let's get this straight (and I apologize if I go over something already covered here) I spend a bunch of money on a game system that has less gaming functionality and capabilities than my 2 year old tablet, then I get to spend a minimum of $60 on a rehash of a rehash of a remake of a remade game... then, I basically can't give said game away unless I have friends on my list for at least a month (mind you, I don't have an XBox Live account prior to purchase) unless I choose to get seriously anally screwed by an "approved" used game vendor. To add icing into this wonderful cake of pure vomit, I must connect to the internet at regular intervals to play said rehashed remakes of games that I was able to play on the Sega genesis and ancient computers (with sometimes lower graphics..).

I can't for the life of me see why I shouldn't be ecstatic.