I hadn't heard that one before. =] Its brilliant.bl4ckh4wk64 said:
I see your Nocturne, and I raise you a Nocturne, AND a Polonaise!
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I see your Nocturne, and I raise you a Nocturne, AND a Polonaise!
I'd have to say there is no "bad" generation of music, I like music from all over the time spectrum, I feel that a lot of people who say they hate a genre of music are being quite close minded as they generally tend to base this off one artist or a few songs.
I'm one of those people who doesnt really have anything against artists of today, Ke$hal, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Jonas brothers etc. Sure I dotn really enjoy their music but that doesnt make them terrible artists, now you might say, "BUT THEY USE AUTOTUNE IN ALL THEIR SONGS blah blah blah" Shut up, yes they may use autotune, but really its pretty much become a style now, and there's nothing wrong with it. People seem to forget the main point of music, its supposed to be entertaining. If it doesnt entertain you, big deal, it entertains other people, stop being whiny.
Now i may as well say what music i like, I like artists like, Avenged Sevenfold, Ozzy Osbourne, Bone thugs n harmony, Nightwish, AC DC, Tupac, Dragonforce, Greenday, Michael Jackson, Kiss, Creedence Clearwater revival, Slash, Guns and Roses, Bruno Mars, Korn, Alice Cooper and Linkin Park
I'm one of those people who doesnt really have anything against artists of today, Ke$hal, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber, Jonas brothers etc. Sure I dotn really enjoy their music but that doesnt make them terrible artists, now you might say, "BUT THEY USE AUTOTUNE IN ALL THEIR SONGS blah blah blah" Shut up, yes they may use autotune, but really its pretty much become a style now, and there's nothing wrong with it. People seem to forget the main point of music, its supposed to be entertaining. If it doesnt entertain you, big deal, it entertains other people, stop being whiny.
Now i may as well say what music i like, I like artists like, Avenged Sevenfold, Ozzy Osbourne, Bone thugs n harmony, Nightwish, AC DC, Tupac, Dragonforce, Greenday, Michael Jackson, Kiss, Creedence Clearwater revival, Slash, Guns and Roses, Bruno Mars, Korn, Alice Cooper and Linkin Park
Classical music is good, the only reason why i don't listen to it that often is because it tends to lack vocals. I just like songs with clear vocals, (and tbh, i love the sound of electric guitars) but that's all a personal preference of mine. But just because classical music doesn't fulfill my personal preferences doesn't mean i don't respect that genre of music.
Some 'classical' vocals:Nickolai77 said:
"Flow My Tears" (John Dowland)
Flow, my tears, fall from your springs!
Exiled for ever, let me mourn;
Where night's black bird her sad infamy sings,
There let me live forlorn.
Down vain lights, shine you no more!
No nights are dark enough for those
That in despair their lost fortunes deplore.
Light doth but shame disclose.
Never may my woes be relieved,
Since pity is fled;
And tears and sighs and groans my weary days
Of all joys have deprived.
From the highest spire of contentment
My fortune is thrown;
And fear and grief and pain for my deserts
Are my hopes, since hope is gone.
Hark! you shadows that in darkness dwell,
Learn to contemn light
Happy, happy they that in hell
Feel not the world's despite.
"Sind Blitze, sind Donner" (JS Bach)
Sind Blitze, sind Donner in Wolken verschwunden?
Eröffne den feurigen Abgrund, o Hölle,
Zertrümmre, verderbe, verschlinge, zerschelle
Mit plötzlicher Wut
Den falschen Verräter, das mördrische Blut!
Hath lightning, hath thunder in clouds fully vanished?
Lay open thy fire's raging chasm, O hell, then,
Now ruin, demolish, devour, now shatter
With suddenmost wrath
The lying betrayer, that murderous blood!
Spem In Alium (Thomas Tallis)
Spem in alium nunquam habui praeter in te
Deus Israel
qui irasceris
et propitius eris
et omnia peccata hominum in tribulatione dimittis
Domine Deus
Creator coeli et terrae
respice humilitatem nostram.
I have never put my hope in any other but in You,
O God of Israel
who can show both anger
and graciousness,
and who absolves all the sins of suffering man
Lord God,
Creator of Heaven and Earth
be mindful of our lowliness.
You know what, OP, you're gonna hate this.
...But I'm gonna post it up anyway, do you know why?
Because I like it, and I value myself above you.
This isn't an insult, it's a fact, a subjective opinion, and one I believe holds true for most people. As such, you are never going to be able to sway their opinions if you immediately set about insulting modern music, because they don't hold your opinion above their own. Make some arguments, justify it, or just take a different tone.
Anyways, here's my fix:
...But I'm gonna post it up anyway, do you know why?
Because I like it, and I value myself above you.
This isn't an insult, it's a fact, a subjective opinion, and one I believe holds true for most people. As such, you are never going to be able to sway their opinions if you immediately set about insulting modern music, because they don't hold your opinion above their own. Make some arguments, justify it, or just take a different tone.
Anyways, here's my fix:
The extremely large majority of people I see post on this forum generally in any given thread about this topic (and it comes up about once a month) are saying that new music is crap and old music is better.Mundjra95 said:I'm only young, but I do appreciate the older music from much before my time, but why do other people see this old music as being bad? Most of the time this stuff is better than the crap we have now.
So, what do you think? Does old mean bad?? And also post any particular favouites you may have
For me, some Dean Martin and Creedence Clearwater Revival. There are others but yeah XD
Cheers
Of course, there's good and bad in every era of music, it's just that with the passage of time the bad stuff gets forgotten and the good stuff survives. My god there was some SHIT in the past, I could post some videos here from bygone eras that are so bad they would eat the enamel off your teeth, but I won't, because I'm nice like that.
Older music by far is my favourite.
Queen, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Eric Clapton, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Lou Reed, Pink Floyd, Violent Femmes. All great. But then how old is old? Bands like Greenday are older then people think.
I see people adding Classical. Classical music is also good. Im normally more in the mood for the above then classical. Still Classical is a great genre. Works like The Planets, nocturne & ride of the valkyries. Are awesome.
Queen, The Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Eric Clapton, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Lou Reed, Pink Floyd, Violent Femmes. All great. But then how old is old? Bands like Greenday are older then people think.
I see people adding Classical. Classical music is also good. Im normally more in the mood for the above then classical. Still Classical is a great genre. Works like The Planets, nocturne & ride of the valkyries. Are awesome.
This is completely untrue.Mundjra95 said:
Oh, be quiet. This is merely due to the fact that the crap we had then has been (mostly) forgotten. And as for 'the crap we have now', well, look harder. There are plenty of great artists around now.Mundjra95 said:
You're also forgetting that there is far more of the past than there is of 'now'. It's a hideously unfair comparison.
If what you are trying to say is that the mainstream of music has seen a decline, you are correct, this is due to copious amounts of advertising being pushed on entertainers miscast as artists, singing others songs and being completely void of talent, but there is always an underground to every genre, purists pushing the genres forward with great art, trick is to look for them, if you can't find it, make it.
Thats what me and my friend are doing, just create and take part.
Thats what me and my friend are doing, just create and take part.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone calling the good old music bad.
Edit: I'd still like to mention that there are a lot of good artists around these days as well, but I assume OP, with "new music", means the stuff that is popular today. Stuff like Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber.
Edit: I'd still like to mention that there are a lot of good artists around these days as well, but I assume OP, with "new music", means the stuff that is popular today. Stuff like Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber.
I agree, most of the people that I've talked to are like that. And me too to an extent. But I guess that he spends most of his time with his younger friends who usually are the other way-round.Fraught said:
Out of the three, i preferred Sind Blitz, Sind Donner. The problem with the other two was that personally i found the vocals to operatic. I have no doubt that the operatic vocal style takes a lot of talent and skill to master , but i find the general tone too drawn out, slow and mournful. Great for elegy's, but i wouldn't want to listen to elegy's all day.arugulino said:
My kind of vocals: (And music in general)
New but still UH-MAZ-ING. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-D4jmkUiQ] But yeah, I hate people who class old as "bad"... so bloody ignorant.
But, a lot of people do the same with new music, mainly older people who are stuck in their ways.
But, a lot of people do the same with new music, mainly older people who are stuck in their ways.
If Popular music of today is supposed to relate to my life, I missed a damn memo somewhere along the line. Most music today is lyrical to the extreme (and in a bad way). Not in the sense that's it's not terribly "musical" (that's not the point here), but that it's like lyric poetry. Bad poetry. Some lyrics are good, but lyrical brought the focus from the broad to the specific: specifically the emotions of a single individual, the writer. Grand. Not necessarily a bad thing, but factor in the "90% of everything is crap" rule and most writers out there suck. Okay, ranting a bit: what I mean is that popular music today often has incomprehensible lyrics when taken as a whole that only take on some semblance of meaning when the words are coupled with the notes usually bringing emphasis to some catchy though nonsensical phrase. Drives me mad.Swaki said:
Also, music confuses "love" with "I want your body" because actual love is so damn hard to define that it's almost impossible to do it with just those 7 letters and their respective sharps and flats, not to mention (and we've covered this) the terrible poetry that makes their lyrics. I.e. love is too complex a mystery to be unlocked using only 1 key, but many musicians still think they can do it. Shame. Love requires change.
Anyhow, ranting and verboseness done.
OT: Old music really wasn't that great, at the time. It's just that old music has had time on its side. Time has helped to bury all of the crappy music of the past and put the shining gems on display. Right now, we're kind of inundated by a sea of sameness because that's what sells. But that's off topic again.
I hadn't heard that Nocturne before. It's beautiful.KaosuHamoni said:
I see those and raise you a Nocturne and a Ballade
Definitely more people like the older music versus the new, but that doesn't mean nothing good is coming out new. You just have to look beyond what is mainstream right now.
There is quite a few bands that came out with new albums which are pretty awesome this year alone.
Kamelot [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZEJoY6kObg], Blind Guardian [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix_mG-ETPFo], and Arjen Anthony Lucassen's Star One [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVInYWs8ZU8] are just a few that I can think of off the top of my head.
There is quite a few bands that came out with new albums which are pretty awesome this year alone.
Kamelot [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZEJoY6kObg], Blind Guardian [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix_mG-ETPFo], and Arjen Anthony Lucassen's Star One [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVInYWs8ZU8] are just a few that I can think of off the top of my head.
Theres always been terrible music from every generation depending on your own tastes. Personally I hate the music thats in the charts at the moment but thats only because I am from a family who all grew up listening to either "classic rock" or late eighties up to early naughties punk, along with a lot of other different genres, but none have been techno, dance, pop etc. Plus, being that I have had a very good guitar teacher from a young age, he has taught me to value some of the talent out there at the moment because not all of it is utter garbage!
I see you, and raise you two Preludes.bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Oh how I love Chopin =] I could listen to his music forever...
