My Experience with MW3 on PC So Far...

[RADlTZ]

And yet it will probably sell a billion + 9001 copies, and be hailed as the messiah of gaming 2011. And then Activision will realise that people will buy CoD games even when their complete trash, why copy-paste a game and spend time making it slightly different but still enjoyable, when you can just copy-paste it, open it in notepad, mash the keyboard a bit, save, and distribute it for massive profit.

 

[JochemDude]

so..... how was the zombie portion of the game?

There is no zombies in MW3.
Although, there is spec ops...

Yes, spec ops... Works with the same level unlock system. Wanna play the next mission, sorry you can't grind the previous ones some more.

how is survival? looks like a blast in the trailers!

Also, like eternal taros said, you can turn off the pc aim assisr, right? RIGHT!?

Yes, but people are gonna leave it on, then it suddenly becomes an aimbot.
Survival mode is basically just that level in campaign that every CoD has had, defend this place and camp up a storm.

 

[Monsterfurby]

The only thing I cared about in all previous CoD games (including the MW series) - and liked a lot - was the singleplayer campaign/story/atmosphere. So, how is that?

 

[Mr. Mike]

Double post, ignore.

 

[Josh Horton]

My brother informed me that the sniping is the same as it was in CoD4, that is probably the most dreadful thing about the game, you'll have people like zzirGrizz joining a game with a sniper rifle and rack up the kills like its nothing...

 

[Appleshampoo]

I just wish I'd waited a day later instead of pre-ordering it and blowing £40 on a 4 hour campaign and the worst multi-player I've ever played.

6v6 on maps that are slightly too big, so it takes a good few minutes before you actually find someone to kill it's just ridiculous.

But dammit I'm going to play it because I'm not having my girlfriend yell at me for wasting my money instead of buying her shoes.

 

[Mr. Mike]

Have you by any chance watched Total Biscuit's "WTF is" video on Modern Warfare 3? Your rant and his video is uncannily similar, did you by any chance see this video? Or ARE you Total Biscuit? Obviously, these concerns are quite prominent, but some phrases you've used are extremely similar.

For those interested, the video I'm talking about:

 

[TriGGeR_HaPPy]

Aim assist on PC?
Please tell me this is some kind of a twisted joke.

Nope, it's there alright. And people will leave it on.

It's just like... Seriously?

Ugh, I've hated where the CoD series has been going since after CoD 4. I mean, I freaking owned at that game, because I played it in almost all of my spare time, to the point of getting into a pretty good clan and playing competitively. And not because I was addicted (I don't really get addicted to any games, can give examples but this isn't really the place), simply because I honestly loved playing that game. It was amazing.

And then, every game following in the series has left me feeling like it might be a return to what CoD 4 was like... followed shortly by disappointment.

There was already only a small chance I was going to get this game, but after hearing these bad things about it (not just from you, mind, however you've put your points forward really well, even if I can practically see the hate dripping from my monitor. So, kudos for that ) I don't think I will be getting it. At all.

Anyway, yes, I did read through all of it. Thanks for another useful opinion on the game.

Now, as for you, mister:

*snip*

I kinda just have the need to tell you that you have an awesome avatar... Even if I like Fox better.
Animals of Farthing Wood forever!

 

[luke10123]

The sound is just bad, rarely has a triple AAA title surprised me in the sound department. ( Battlefield 3 sounded reasonable )

Have to disagree, I actually thought the sounds were ok, the weapon sounds in particular being a vast improvement over MW2. My main gripe is the tiny, tiny maps. They really don't cater for (real) sniping / stealthy gameplay.

 

[PlowmanMk]

Camping spots are carefully handpicked to give the person behind the bar/in the corner/in the bushes just that edge they always wanted.

Speaking of which.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwWJvNOUYuA
(embedding wasn't working :/)

I bought MW3. It hasn't been downloaded/installed yet (via Steam). I'm going to wait a bit. Skyrim and BF3 come first.

I was thinking, perhaps its time CoD is given a rest for a bit. It needs to be built from ground up again - given a fresh start. The formula worked well, its just becoming overdone. Its kind of like a beautiful young women, who has now gotten old and is pumped full of botox to help her fit in with her younger, more attractive competitors.

 

[JochemDude]

The only thing I cared about in all previous CoD games (including the MW series) - and liked a lot - was the singleplayer campaign/story/atmosphere. So, how is that?

It's gotten very over the top, Michael Bay Hollywood style. Wether you like that Hollywood style of campaign is up to you.

 

[Tipatap]

*Well I just played a few hours of MW3 and this is inspired by the strong influence of rage that has grasped this game for me.
If you don't want to hear anything negative about MW3... I don't even know why you're reading this then.

FOV: You can't change the FOV. It's locked on 65. Are you kidding me? Why not add this basic piece of functionality? Oh yeah because the design platform are consoles and due to the horrific optimization they just use a goddamn narrow FOV because they don't need to render the shit outside it. Then just decided not to change anything in the gruesome port that is the PC version.


Killstreaks, as feared, are back to fuck you over. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Camping spots are carefully handpicked to give the person behind the bar/in the corner/in the bushes just that edge they always wanted.

Guns, I really haven't come to that because dedicated servers are not ranked. You have to use the fucking lagspiking/broken fucking peer2peer method that includes every horror you don't want playing a FPS. To top that the NetCode is ridiculously badly written, really such a "What the fuck were they thinking" moment.

Balancing is were it really get's fun. Saw that trailer with the noob? They aren't lying, anyone can play this game. It's easy, they're holding your hand every step of the way. Aim assist has been increased to the point where you are basically using an aimbot, seriously on mother-fucking PC. What balance in this game comes to is that you all gather in a giant pit of disorder and rage, and whoever plays the dirtiest wins.

The sound is just bad, rarely has a triple AAA title surprised me in the sound department. ( Battlefield 3 sounded reasonable ), but this sounds like random sound files without any sense of direction being thrown at you because of why? Fuck if I know, apparently Infinity Ward seems to think that because you can only see 60 degrees you can also only hear in that angle.

Weapon unlocks, yay we're back to the old system where for no apparent reason apart from making you clutch onto the game longer, you don't have stuff that doesn't make sense. Scopes for example, are just personal preference. I like holographic scopes for example. Why the fuck do I have to wait till level xx to get it? What was wrong with Black Ops system? That was a huge step forward in my book, but always one step forward means automatically two steps back.

Lazy and Ignorance are all over the fucking place, entire environments, buildings, textures, animations everything is just fucking copied. As I said NetCode sucks major ass. Also forget the 60 FPS they promised, I checked it in the game files it's max capped to 45 FPS. The little bit of what's left of Infinity Wards competent team that made CoD 4, well believe me they certainly left alright. They kept the PR team which is why they bloody well sell their stuff.

Seriously, if you're intending to get this on PC, don't, there's a reason review codes weren't given out for PC. If would've been bashed to shit. I can see someone with a console enjoying this, graphics are about as good as they get on a console. I'm not flaming consoles, I just mean that there is little to nothing that makes getting this on PC makes for a better experience.

Just run in blast away, get consistent pats on the shoulder assisted with epic metal riffs and guitar solo's, it constantly gives you candy for every 10 kills you make and that's fine, I see why people would be able to enjoy that.

Ofcourse there is stuff they nailed with this, custom gamemodes, theater mode and such absolutely brilliant and something I'm still waiting for to see in other games.

I don't hate CoD, I just don't, I've played loads of CoD 4 if I just want to have some dumb FPS action I'll still to this day put CoD 4 in. I'm not gonna hate you for buying/playing/enjoying this game, you're a gamer for fucks sake you can spend your well earned money and enjoy it however you damn well please.
(Editor's Note: I gained so much respect for you for this past paragraph.)
Just needed to get this of my heart guys, if any of you actually read through this all thank you for that.

Firstly, I apologize if my edit offended you or anyone else. It's a thing. Grammar mistakes bug me. Write how you want, but each error probably brings me that much closer to a brain aneurysm. (Hmm. Now how to use this to my benefit?)
Onto the topic of the actual thread, I thought that your speech was reasonably put together, and definitely worth listening to. Seeing as how CoD MW3 came out just recently, there are few personal accounts on the game's quality that I'd actually read and listen to. From what you've said, the PC version is far less enjoyable graphically and gameplay-wise.

 

[JochemDude]

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Firstly, I apologize if my edit offended you or anyone else. It's a thing. Grammar mistakes bug me. Write how you want, but each error probably brings me that much closer to a brain aneurysm. (Hmm. Now how to use this to my benefit?)
Onto the topic of the actual thread, I thought that your speech was reasonably put together, and definitely worth listening to. Seeing as how CoD MW3 came out just recently, there are few personal accounts on the game's quality that I'd actually read and listen to. From what you've said, the PC version is far less enjoyable graphically and gameplay-wise.

Thanks for the feedback I'll read it a couple of times before posting next time. I never really paid attention to my grammar and that shows here and now.

Or I'll just PM it to you for grammar check
Joking ofcourse.

 

[suitepee7]

probably the best rant i've seen about this game. i expected a lot of it, but it's always good to have it confirmed. obviously slightly one sided, but your section on gamers being able to spend their money how they like brought it back for me. a good read to say the least, nice job ^-^

 

[Fishyash]

Have you by any chance watched Total Biscuit's "WTF is" video on Modern Warfare 3? Your rant and his video is uncannily similar, did you by any chance see this video? Or ARE you Total Biscuit? Obviously, these concerns are quite prominent, but some phrases you've used are extremely similar.

For those interested, the video I'm talking about:

Ninja much!

It is probably coincidence though. Those problems that are explained in the OP are obvious once you see the game.

I only skimmed once I realised he was basically echoing the concerns of the WTF is video, this quote caught my eye though haha.

I don't hate CoD, I just don't, I've played loads of CoD 4 if I just want to have some dumb FPS action I'll still to this day put CoD 4 in. I'm not gonna hate you for buying/playing/enjoying this game, you're a gamer for fucks sake you can spend your well earned money and enjoy it however you damn well please.

This is almost exactly what TB said... minus the swearing and 'I'll still put CoD 4 in'.

It's really tempting to say that he got that opinion from just watching the WTF is. Well, all the negative stuff. But it could be just coincidence. But, this isn't the first, nor will it be the last complaints about the seemingly crappy PC port. I am not going to say it IS bad because I haven't bought the game, nor will I be going to.

Had to edit multiple times because I kept making my response within quotes.

 

[JochemDude]

Have you by any chance watched Total Biscuit's "WTF is" video on Modern Warfare 3?
For those interested, the video I'm talking about:

Ninja much!

I got most of the things I wanted to put in there from a long discussion I had with a friend over Skype. So it could be that he saw it, I haven't though I'll ask him to next time to tell me when he's gonna quote people. I used that last statement though because it perfectly worded what I was going for.

 

[midget_roxx]

The funny thing is the OP no doubt expected this yet he still bought it xD

 

[JochemDude]

The funny thing is the OP no doubt expected this yet he still bought it xD

Yep, I bought it at a discount through my clan. Which made it 10 bucks which is a deal for any triple AAA game.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Killstreaks are as feared back to fuck you over, Richer get richer, poorer get poorer. Camping spots are carefully handpicked to give the person behind the bar/in the corner/in the bushes just that edge they always wanted.

Killstreaks are far more balanced than they were before. It's incredibly easy to take them out now and doing so counts towards your own 'killstreak', or pointstreak - which gives more incentive to do it.

You also complain about the rich getting richer but then complain that 'noobs' can easily play it. Seems a bit like you're just looking for reasons to ***** and contradicting yourself.

Now granted I play on 360 and yeah the PvP server lag thing is maddeningly frustrating at times, but I played the game for about 5 hours so far and it feels by far the most balanced and fair COD to date (once you get used to the spawns which are a bit nuts).

 

[VladG]

The aim assist for PC is bullshit, and I kinda agree about the graphics. MW2 had a much richer palette despite the fact that it's still a "realistic" looking game.

Can't really blame it otherwise, it looks ok to me, even if it's not cutting edge (and it also means it's more accessible to lower end rigs. I find it appalling that BF3 runs like shit on my PC on the lowest settings, but I can play MW3 on max, no prob. And no, BF3 doesn't look THAT much better).

Not exactly certain where that fps cap was, I played it at over 60fps on a gaming laptop, and the guys that configured them barely knew how to start the game, let alone change config files.

I've found balancing to be an issue in all MW games and I really haven't played enough of MW3 to comment on it further, but at least the weapons no longer seem to be futuristic laser guns wielded by immovable cyborgs since they seem to be perfectly accurate at any range with no recoil whatsoever (I'm talking about the assault rifles in MW2).

And yeah, the weapon unlock system is kinda shit too... I know it gives people a feel of achievement, but at least give us all the weapon accessories. I refuse to play without a red dot sight!

In the end, I also find MW1 to be the best game of the series, not only in MP but also in SP. The balance is ok (as long as you restrict the usage of the GL), weapons feel different and take actual SKILL and MASTERY to use properly (you know... stuff like learning to control recoil, accuracy, reload times, etc), killstreaks are powerful, but they can be neutralized/avoided by a skilled team/player (hear that AC130?) and the maps allow for a greater degree of tactical play.