My gf's dad hates me.

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IckleMissMayhem

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Actually hates you, or disapproves of you, or just is uncomfortable around the guy who's (possibly) ahem... deflowering his precious daughter?
 

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thedeathscythe said:
How old are the two of you? And do you think there is anything for him to be worried about you? I'm not in university and I'm 20, I'm just working and living it up, so when I date a girl, and if I meet her parents and they know this, sometimes they'll be sketchy about me, but they won't really do anything too bad. That's just what I find for myself. Look at yourself as a person and say "would I want my daughter dating him?" and think up any reasons why not, and that's probably why.
I would honestly be horrified if I had a daughter and she dated at all. I'd probably be more protective of any daughter. I'm basically a good guy. I get good grades, I'm working on my BA, I do volunteer work, paint, practice martial arts, I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, all in all, I'd say I'm alright. I'm a bit of a jerk sometimes and I'm super sarcastic, but I'm not spiteful or out and out mean. I'd be thrilled if I had a daughter and she dated a guy like me because I know he'd treat her right. Assuming I could get over the fact that she'd be dating. XD
 

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my last girlfriend's parents hated me, supprised they even let us get back together, more so when they found out we were talking about getting married (we're 20 and 16, I turned 20 a couple of weeks ago and she's 17 next week) I put my case forward to her mum (I stated that I'm fully aware that neither of us aren't in a position to get married I'd said this to her) and she respected me for being straight up with my case. These parents also beat her regularly, she talked about it likr it happens all the time which I find a bit shocking as well...

ironically, she dumped me for someone else she's never even met..
 

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o man you got it good

picture if you will a kid who had long hair smoked weed 3 or 4 times a week was into classic rock music and was a complete smartass

you have problems with a girls parents when that is the case although the first looks they give you are fairly funny
 

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MasterOfWorlds said:
Here are a few things to consider...

1. There's probably a reason her parents are seperated. I'll take a guess that if her father is acting like this, that's why. A man with a completely dominant personality will not do well with any woman, if only because you have to treat them with respect. This comes from a guy with a majorly dominant personality that's learned to get the "do as I say when I say it" out of a woman, you need to understand that let go of the reigns when stuff isn't serious.

2. You were not upfront about your relationship. Yes, even if your girlfriend didn't tell her parents it is still your fault. You did not put your foot forward and accept that you need to take initiative in a relationship. The fact that her father stumbled upon the relationship is something of a bad start.

3. The way he found out he found out about the relationship. She was crying her eyes out and complaining that you cheated on her. That was his first impression. Not a good one.

4. You've done nothing to counter-mend points two and three. Yes, good for you for taking care of your girl when she was down and out. Good job for keeping her safe. I regret to inform you that that is what's expected of you. That is your job in a relationship. You need to do something beyond that to prove your worth at this point.

Hope that helps clear things up for you, buddy. Good luck =)
About points two and three...I thought she had told her parents. It was early on in our relationship when they found out about it because of the incident that happened. I was looking forward to meeting them and actually got together with them only an hour or so after I got back from my trip. I mean, I guess it is sort of my fault for not asking about whether or not she'd told them or insisting that I meet them, but I didn't want to seem too pushy since it seems like her dad is the dominating type and while I like things to go my way (who doesn't?), I'm not going to force anything on anyone. I just wanted to go it slow and at a pace she was comfortable with. Obviously, this backfired a bit. XD
 

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MasterOfWorlds said:
I'm sure that this isn't exactly rare. Her mom likes me and we get along great, but her dad really has it out for me. I mean he's threatened to call the cops, and hunt me down and all sorts of stuff like that. Luckily he hasn't gotten violent because I'd really hate to have to beat down my gf's dad. XD

Anyway, her parents are separate, and it's not like I have to see them all the time, but it's just annoying that it seems like I have to jump through hoops just to date her because she's amazing and I really like her. The only problem we have is her dad.

Any ideas/suggestions for dealing with a hostile parent? I've heard of parents hating gfs too, so I guess this could apply there as well. Normally I get along well with my friends/gfs parents, he's the only one that seems to have a problem with me.
He needs to see that you're a good guy, that you're not a dangerous stray dog his daughter's picked up.

Something like if you screw up (in his eyes), apologize (sincerely), and if he doesn't buy your sincerity apologize for him "I was just trying to be respectful, sorry you don't see it that way, sir." /leave WITHOUT PROVOKING FURTHER FRICTION. Angry people are angry for a reason, until things get easier they won't change.

I've had this kind of problem before. The key points: make a sincere effort. Don't provoke. Don't try TOO HARD (don't be a suckup). Older folks take longer to change, be patient, stick to your guns, be confident and non-confrontational.

MOST IMPORTANT ADVICE:

1. Stay calm and stay confident in what you do.
"The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him."

Stay deadly calm at all times. No matter how crazy he gets, if you can't keep your cool (even if it's because he's completely blown his top and gets violent) withdraw and save the battle for another time. Because as long and you're staying calm you're in control of what you're doing, and he is not, you've got the upper hand both tactically (because all conflict is warfare) and morally.

2. Avoid violence (I don't care if you'd win or not, or who started it.)
"To fight and conquer in all you battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."

Besides, your goal is to bridge the gap, not push it further apart. I'd only ever resort to violence in this case if he got violent with his daughter. I'd floor him and take her somewhere safe, the safety of his daughter should be something you'd both agree on. You have to make him realise that he's crossed the line in that case.

3. Stick to your guns
"To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself."

If you excel in stopping his attacks, be they physical or metaphorical, without resorting to retaliation. Then you are in total control and he will be the only one causing a problem, in time I would hope any human being would realize what they're doing. You must get him to respect you before he will accept you.


TLDR; Get him to respect you, but do not disrespect him in order to achieve this, it will not work. (Quotes are from The Art of War, if you're interested)
I agree with your points and was actually going to ask if those were quotes from the Art of War. XD I've read it, and found it very interesting.

I'm trying to be polite without becoming a doormat, but I'm also standing my ground and trying to show him that I really care about her. I'm sure that he'll at least have some sort of respect for me eventually, even if he doesn't like me.

I've talked to him a few times, and he asked about what I planned to do in the future as far as a job and education and he seemed impressed that I was so young (19) and had thought about it until I get my Ph.D. hopefully by the age of 24-25-ish.
 

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tomtom94 said:
Take him out for a pint down the local pub (assuming you're a happy drunk as opposed to an angry one).

And talk to your GF about it.
Actually, I was planning on doing something very similar to that. XD I was going to take him out for drinks or dinner or something just the two of us, so that we can talk things out. I was thinking about it anyway, I talked to her about it and she said that she thought it was a good idea.
 

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Are you sure it isn't just an act? That he's laughing behind his hands every time you walk up the driveway? That's what I would do if I had a daughter. I've got this nice, rusty machete I'd just carry at all times. Never threaten, just... hold, while looking at you. Always.

Anyway, if he's not, and he really wishes to cause you harm, you don't want to make even more of an enemy of him by having to call the cops if he loses it at you. Did you say 7 months? If that's the case, I'm surprised your computer doesn't automatically omit the word "marry". If it's only been 7 months, and it all started with a jealous mutual friend saying you cheated via webcam, then that's probably reason enough. Best thing you can do is wait it out, stay with her, and that would have been my advice anyway. He'll get used to the idea when it's a year down the line and you have shown no sign of ever wanting to bail.
 

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Jonluw said:
You should prove yourself to her dad in a suitable anime-esque way.

No, really. Try to show her dad that you're an okay guy. Maybe go out fishing with him or something.

Of course, I have no experience with this, so I might just be talking out my ass. I'm just trying to imagine myself as the dad, and your gf as my little sister.
I was planning on getting together with him sometime and having a man to man talk to see if we can sort things out. My gf seems to think it's a good idea, but I'm just trying to figure out where, when, and if he'd actually do it without causing a scene. XD
 

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MasterOfWorlds said:
Jonluw said:
You should prove yourself to her dad in a suitable anime-esque way.

No, really. Try to show her dad that you're an okay guy. Maybe go out fishing with him or something.

Of course, I have no experience with this, so I might just be talking out my ass. I'm just trying to imagine myself as the dad, and your gf as my little sister.
I was planning on getting together with him sometime and having a man to man talk to see if we can sort things out. My gf seems to think it's a good idea, but I'm just trying to figure out where, when, and if he'd actually do it without causing a scene. XD
That's probably a good idea. I have no idea how to do it though.
 

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He's being protective and feels the need to strike fear in you. Of course none of us have an exact answer to 'counter' him. Try and be as non-sexual towards your Girlfriend when you're both around the Dad.
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
MasterOfWorlds said:
I'm sure that this isn't exactly rare. Her mom likes me and we get along great, but her dad really has it out for me. I mean he's threatened to call the cops, and hunt me down and all sorts of stuff like that. Luckily he hasn't gotten violent because I'd really hate to have to beat down my gf's dad. XD

Anyway, her parents are separate, and it's not like I have to see them all the time, but it's just annoying that it seems like I have to jump through hoops just to date her because she's amazing and I really like her. The only problem we have is her dad.

Any ideas/suggestions for dealing with a hostile parent? I've heard of parents hating gfs too, so I guess this could apply there as well. Normally I get along well with my friends/gfs parents, he's the only one that seems to have a problem with me.
Sleep with his wife. :)
The thought had occured to me. After all, the best way to get in with the duaghter is to get in with the parents. Sleep with them, and you're in. ;)
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
Let's be fair here: Do you really expect a last-generation father to be all that fond of what he probably sees as a lazy oaf, particularly with the gaming habits that I expect you have? You're Generation Y, and being from the same generation, I'm in a good position to tell you that our entire generation sucks, that we're abominable human beings with few redeeming characteristics.
I don't play games all that much. On weekends and Friday nights mostly, when I'm not hanging out with friends or studying. I'm working on my BA, and I do yard/housework on the side for spare cash. Unlike most of our generation, I grew up with manners, work ethic, and ambition.
 

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ravensheart18 said:
MasterOfWorlds said:
Dango said:
Well is there a reason he hates you?
smithy_2045 said:
Why does he hate you?
ravensheart18 said:
Even an overprotective dad needs a reason to hate you...so what is it? If you aren't honest, no one can help you manage the relationship.
The main thing I can think of is that I'm a little older than her. Only a year and some change. I haven't slept with her yet, so he's never walked in on us. She doesn't really get along too well with him. I've spoken to him and he treats me like I'm some creep that preys on little girls.
What are your ages? That spread matters more at 14 than 30.

I kindly remind him that the age difference between him and her mom is seven years, but I think that only makes it worse. XD
Yes, that was just plain stupid of you. For one thing you don't know if he WAS taking advantage of her mom. You also don't know if the age was part of what split them up. Plus you are in effect saying "oh ya, well you did it too!" which is in an effect an attack. Finally if that wasn't his problem with you, you just created a new problem and attacked his marriage for no reason. Overall, not a bright strategy.
Actually, her mom and her dad never got married, and she was seven years older than him. XD

Although admittedly, it was a bad move. It was one of the few times I actually let my control over myself slip around him, but I've been keeping a tighter lid on things snce then, and apologized for it since it was uncalled for.
 

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He probably sees you as he was himself at your age. Out to hump the sweet little daughter he has cherished for so many years.

Hell id be pissed if you where going to put your schlong in my daughter. You dont go out with her just because you like movies/dinner/coffee
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
Let's be fair here: Do you really expect a last-generation father to be all that fond of what he probably sees as a lazy oaf, particularly with the gaming habits that I expect you have? You're Generation Y, and being from the same generation, I'm in a good position to tell you that our entire generation sucks, that we're abominable human beings with few redeeming characteristics.
I think that applies to most of the human race.
 

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I dated my last bf for a year and his mother intensely hated me for most of that time. She was fine with me until he found the need to tell her that we were intimate, and then Catholic shit hit the fan for the rest of our relationship. She even went to my school and had him removed from any classes we shared.

It was really hard to deal with and I wish I had better advice, but you've got to ignore it for the most part. I mean, do your best to make a good impression, don't act like a punk in front of the parents, but you can't force them to like you if they've made up their minds not to. Just don't take it personally and avoid confrontation with them.
 

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Duskwaith said:
He probably sees you as he was himself at your age. Out to hump the sweet little daughter he has cherished for so many years.

Hell id be pissed if you where going to put your schlong in my daughter. You dont go out with her just because you like movies/dinner/coffee
I'm not sure whether I should laugh or cry because that's so true. XD

Honestly, we haven't slept together. That's not the reason I'm going out with her. It's something we probably will do in the future when she's ready, but I think that's a little down the line. Until then, it's only movies/dinner/coffee. XD