My only real problem with Fable III (SPOILERS)...

dreadedcandiru99

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...Reaver. Just Reaver.

Okay, look: Sparrow learned in the previous game that Reaver fed the population of Oakvale to a bunch of demons, and that he's been sacrificing villagers since then, and that he's responsible for transforming a peaceful village into an incredibly dangerous banshee-ridden swamp that kills just about everyone who stumbles in. He also repeatedly screwed Sparrow and the other Heroes over--Lucien probably wouldn't have caught them all if not for him--thereby nearly enabling the end of the world. Also, he shot that nice guy who invented the camera. Since Sparrow anticipated that at least one of her kids would grow up to be a Hero, you'd expect her to have included Reaver's name on a list of World-Class Assholes To Watch Out For, right?

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that she didn't. The next Hero has first-hand knowledge of Reaver's fondnesses for child labor and viciously murdering people who inconvenience him. Oh, and there was that time he tried to feed the new sovereign to a pit full of hobbes and balverines. You'd think, wouldn't you, that the new ruler would immediately demand Reaver's head on a plate, or at the very least, that he be imprisoned until the day after his next demonic sacrifice was due. You wouldn't think that Reaver would get to continually appear before the throne to request permission to keep being a dick, or that he would manage to land the construction contracts and claim all the credit for the new schools and orphanages and stuff even when the royal judgments don't go his way.

And yes, Hero of Skill or not, it is possible for a large enough force to capture him. Lucien did it in the last game, after all.

TL;DR: Reaver probably should've been dead at the end.
 

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Well, thats simple. Lack of realism - This is Fable. You can only grab villagers, and even then thats after you turn safety off. How would you convince the guards we was only a Villager NPC, and not a scripted character who just shows up from time to time?

Thats my excuse anyway
 

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Estocavio said:
Well, thats simple. Lack of realism - This is Fable. You can only grab villagers, and even then thats after you turn safety off. How would you convince the guards we was only a Villager NPC, and not a scripted character who just shows up from time to time?

Thats my excuse anyway
I can grab villagers with the safety on... o_O
 

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Drakenian said:
Estocavio said:
Well, thats simple. Lack of realism - This is Fable. You can only grab villagers, and even then thats after you turn safety off. How would you convince the guards we was only a Villager NPC, and not a scripted character who just shows up from time to time?

Thats my excuse anyway
I can grab villagers with the safety on... o_O
I mean drag - Not hold their hands or some such. Where you take out a weapon and force them to come with you
 

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I had many more problems with Fable 3. I even made a review about it here titled "God, I hope Molyneux reads this" and it seems no one has bothered to read it since it's so long.
 

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Palademon said:
I had many more problems with Fable 3. I even made a review about it here titled "God, I hope Molyneux reads this" and it seems no one has bothered to read it since it's so long.
Link, bra? I'll read it. Hell, I might add to it.
 

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Drakenian said:
Palademon said:
I had many more problems with Fable 3. I even made a review about it here titled "God, I hope Molyneux reads this" and it seems no one has bothered to read it since it's so long.
Link, bra? I'll read it. Hell, I might add to it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.242016-God-I-hope-Molyneux-reads-this#8767565

Have fun, it's a long one.
 

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What annoyed me the most about Fable 3 was once you were king, as I was preparing for the attack the days went from 250 until the attack to one day until the attack after 1 day of agenda. I assumed there being 250 days until the attack, I could go put the treasury in the negative and make the money back before, but no the game goes straight to one day before.
 

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My only problem with Fable III is that a side quest in Bowerstone Industrial called "Kidnapped" is so badly bugged it fucks up your save if you start it. It's like the game totally freezes up, you can't continue with quests or enter combat and all you can do is either hope Lionhead get a patch out for it soon or delete your save and start again. So yeah.. if you see that quest stay the fuck away from it.

Oh and don't think it's just a one off and you might be able to do it without problems. I googled it and there is a lot of people that's gotten the bug. So if i were any of you lot i wouldn't start that quest thinking "I might be ok" it's not worth risking the consequences.
 

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Palademon said:
Drakenian said:
Palademon said:
I had many more problems with Fable 3. I even made a review about it here titled "God, I hope Molyneux reads this" and it seems no one has bothered to read it since it's so long.
Link, bra? I'll read it. Hell, I might add to it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.242016-God-I-hope-Molyneux-reads-this#8767565

Have fun, it's a long one.
Okay, I left a comment, but I don't think it recognized I did. -.- Good review, by the way.

Kungfu_Teddybear said:
My only problem with Fable III is that a side quest in Bowerstone Industrial called "Kidnapped" is so badly bugged it fucks up your save if you start it. It's like the game totally freezes up, you can't continue with quests or enter combat and all you can do is either hope Lionhead get a patch out for it soon or delete your save and start again. So yeah.. if you see that quest stay the fuck away from it.

Oh and don't think it's just a one off and you might be able to do it without problems. I googled it and there is a lot of people that's gotten the bug. So if i were any of you lot i wouldn't start that quest thinking "I might be ok" it's not worth risking the consequences.
Um... I've played through the game 3 times now and that's never happened. In fact, I've never had the game crash or bug on me at all. So... I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
 

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Kungfu_Teddybear said:
My only problem with Fable III is that a side quest in Bowerstone Industrial called "Kidnapped" is so badly bugged it fucks up your save if you start it. It's like the game totally freezes up, you can't continue with quests or enter combat and all you can do is either hope Lionhead get a patch out for it soon or delete your save and start again. So yeah.. if you see that quest stay the fuck away from it.

Oh and don't think it's just a one off and you might be able to do it without problems. I googled it and there is a lot of people that's gotten the bug. So if i were any of you lot i wouldn't start that quest thinking "I might be ok" it's not worth risking the consequences.
Played through the game twice, and did that mission both times never bugged. Only time I had trouble was when Walter refused to move his fat ass for good long time, but the issue resolved its self.

OT: Yeah I though it was weird you couldn't execute Reaver on account of being a dush bag, not to mention the whole orgy debacle...
 

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Drakenian said:
Kungfu_Teddybear said:
My only problem with Fable III is that a side quest in Bowerstone Industrial called "Kidnapped" is so badly bugged it fucks up your save if you start it. It's like the game totally freezes up, you can't continue with quests or enter combat and all you can do is either hope Lionhead get a patch out for it soon or delete your save and start again. So yeah.. if you see that quest stay the fuck away from it.

Oh and don't think it's just a one off and you might be able to do it without problems. I googled it and there is a lot of people that's gotten the bug. So if i were any of you lot i wouldn't start that quest thinking "I might be ok" it's not worth risking the consequences.
Um... I've played through the game 3 times now and that's never happened. In fact, I've never had the game crash or bug on me at all. So... I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
What Kungfu_Teddybear said happened to me. I can't do that quest at all, didn't know about it until I searched around and found this forum. :/ I had to restart my game because of it. I've told all my friends to stay away from it just in case theirs is bugged as well.
 

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
...Reaver. Just Reaver.

Okay, look: Sparrow learned in the previous game that Reaver fed the population of Oakvale to a bunch of demons, and that he's been sacrificing villagers since then, and that he's responsible for transforming a peaceful village into an incredibly dangerous banshee-ridden swamp that kills just about everyone who stumbles in. He also repeatedly screwed Sparrow and the other Heroes over--Lucien probably wouldn't have caught them all if not for him--thereby nearly enabling the end of the world. Also, he shot that nice guy who invented the camera. Since Sparrow anticipated that at least one of her kids would grow up to be a Hero, you'd expect her to have included Reaver's name on a list of World-Class Assholes To Watch Out For, right?

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that she didn't. The next Hero has first-hand knowledge of Reaver's fondnesses for child labor and viciously murdering people who inconvenience him. Oh, and there was that time he tried to feed the new sovereign to a pit full of hobbes and balverines. You'd think, wouldn't you, that the new ruler would immediately demand Reaver's head on a plate, or at the very least, that he be imprisoned until the day after his next demonic sacrifice was due. You wouldn't think that Reaver would get to continually appear before the throne to request permission to keep being a dick, or that he would manage to land the construction contracts and claim all the credit for the new schools and orphanages and stuff even when the royal judgments don't go his way.

And yes, Hero of Skill or not, it is possible for a large enough force to capture him. Lucien did it in the last game, after all.

TL;DR: Reaver probably should've been dead at the end.
Yep I know what you mean I also find it sad that the other heros didnt show up at all. In truth the whole king part is just bleh to me feels tacked on and heres a question: i can rebuild cities and such with negative money but I cant pay for an army with negative money?
 

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zero_blahs said:
dreadedcandiru99 said:
...Reaver. Just Reaver.

Okay, look: Sparrow learned in the previous game that Reaver fed the population of Oakvale to a bunch of demons, and that he's been sacrificing villagers since then, and that he's responsible for transforming a peaceful village into an incredibly dangerous banshee-ridden swamp that kills just about everyone who stumbles in. He also repeatedly screwed Sparrow and the other Heroes over--Lucien probably wouldn't have caught them all if not for him--thereby nearly enabling the end of the world. Also, he shot that nice guy who invented the camera. Since Sparrow anticipated that at least one of her kids would grow up to be a Hero, you'd expect her to have included Reaver's name on a list of World-Class Assholes To Watch Out For, right?

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that she didn't. The next Hero has first-hand knowledge of Reaver's fondnesses for child labor and viciously murdering people who inconvenience him. Oh, and there was that time he tried to feed the new sovereign to a pit full of hobbes and balverines. You'd think, wouldn't you, that the new ruler would immediately demand Reaver's head on a plate, or at the very least, that he be imprisoned until the day after his next demonic sacrifice was due. You wouldn't think that Reaver would get to continually appear before the throne to request permission to keep being a dick, or that he would manage to land the construction contracts and claim all the credit for the new schools and orphanages and stuff even when the royal judgments don't go his way.

And yes, Hero of Skill or not, it is possible for a large enough force to capture him. Lucien did it in the last game, after all.

TL;DR: Reaver probably should've been dead at the end.
Yep I know what you mean I also find it sad that the other heros didnt show up at all. In truth the whole king part is just bleh to me feels tacked on and heres a question: i can rebuild cities and such with negative money but I cant pay for an army with negative money?
Yeah, there's another thing. I was led to believe that once Logan was dealt with, I could pretty much be a nice guy or a total asshole as the mood struck me. Really, the whole ending just comes down to whether or not you've got enough cash on hand to keep your promises while raising the army, and I totally did, having long since been conditioned to buy up all the shops and real estate as quickly as possible. (Even if you didn't have the cash, surely you could've just given a royal address along the lines of "Listen, everybody, the evil black goop from that one Prince of Persia game is going to try to kill us all in short order, so we're instituting a universal draft right now. Oh, and we'll pay for it by seizing all of Reaver's worldly possessions. Which reminds me--could someone please kill that fucker?")
 

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
zero_blahs said:
dreadedcandiru99 said:
...Reaver. Just Reaver.

Okay, look: Sparrow learned in the previous game that Reaver fed the population of Oakvale to a bunch of demons, and that he's been sacrificing villagers since then, and that he's responsible for transforming a peaceful village into an incredibly dangerous banshee-ridden swamp that kills just about everyone who stumbles in. He also repeatedly screwed Sparrow and the other Heroes over--Lucien probably wouldn't have caught them all if not for him--thereby nearly enabling the end of the world. Also, he shot that nice guy who invented the camera. Since Sparrow anticipated that at least one of her kids would grow up to be a Hero, you'd expect her to have included Reaver's name on a list of World-Class Assholes To Watch Out For, right?

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that she didn't. The next Hero has first-hand knowledge of Reaver's fondnesses for child labor and viciously murdering people who inconvenience him. Oh, and there was that time he tried to feed the new sovereign to a pit full of hobbes and balverines. You'd think, wouldn't you, that the new ruler would immediately demand Reaver's head on a plate, or at the very least, that he be imprisoned until the day after his next demonic sacrifice was due. You wouldn't think that Reaver would get to continually appear before the throne to request permission to keep being a dick, or that he would manage to land the construction contracts and claim all the credit for the new schools and orphanages and stuff even when the royal judgments don't go his way.

And yes, Hero of Skill or not, it is possible for a large enough force to capture him. Lucien did it in the last game, after all.

TL;DR: Reaver probably should've been dead at the end.
Yep I know what you mean I also find it sad that the other heros didnt show up at all. In truth the whole king part is just bleh to me feels tacked on and heres a question: i can rebuild cities and such with negative money but I cant pay for an army with negative money?
Yeah, there's another thing. I was led to believe that once Logan was dealt with, I could pretty much be a nice guy or a total asshole as the mood struck me. Really, the whole ending just comes down to whether or not you've got enough cash on hand to keep your promises while raising the army, and I totally did, having long since been conditioned to buy up all the shops and real estate as quickly as possible. (Even if you didn't have the cash, surely you could've just given a royal address along the lines of "Listen, everybody, the evil black goop from that one Prince of Persia game is going to try to kill us all in short order, so we're instituting a universal draft right now. Oh, and we'll pay for it by seizing all of Reaver's worldly possessions. Which reminds me--could someone please kill that fucker?")
Exactly I love the adventuring bits but the king part was a huge let down and I wasnt even hyped for the king part It just completely erked me I believe peter said a beggar could come in and you could grab him by the beard and drag him to work! Well why cant i grab reaver and behead his snarky ass after hes murdered hundreds and attempted to kill me!
 

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Reaver was honestly one of my favorite characters. Very few people can make child labor and turning the only shelter for the homeless into a brothel sound so modest and right. He's going right next to The Illusive Man in terms of charisma and wit. The only problem I have with the game is a lack of quests. There must be MORE! There's very few between phases of the revolution.
 

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Influence.

Reaver has lived for quite a long time, has probably gained enough influence in the right circles to always know when someone might be coming after him. Even if you did try to kill Reaver what do you think would happen? He is THE corner-stone member of Industry, if he goes down you lose so much more then one man. Not even counting the lives he would take while trying to take him down if you DID manage to bring him down it would be destroying the man who single-handedly runs the economy and knows how to pull the strings to make it work or bring it down. The best part about him is that he will not tempt fate, he listens to those who he knows are higher then him as evidenced by him doing exactly what you tell him to do once you become King/Queen. Why destroy one of your greatest assets when he will do exactly what you say.
 

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What the ****? Reaver is BACK in Fable 3? Say it ain't so.

That's a joke. I was already pissed off I couldn't kill him in Fable 2. And now, he's BACK. That's like adding INSULT TO INJURY