My sister screwed up

[OtherSideofSky]

I've gotten ten day suspensions for sitting on a bench and then being punched in the face by three teachers while I did absolutely nothing (yes, more than once. I had a legal obligation to sit on the bench). There's really nothing you can do about this kind of shit, as it turns out that school rules are, in practice, basically whatever the school feels like they can get away with.

 

[Yopaz]

even if its a retarded rule its still a school rule, and as long as it is not something outrageously stupid they can do what they want.

i remember in year 9 after a few weeks of a lot of kids blatantly ignoring school uniform policies the deputy principle spoke to the school, read the rules, showed us where they were written etc, part of the rules were boys wearing shorts had to have them at a certain length and girls wearing skirts the same, as well as girls not being able to wear any makeup. after the assembly my brother went up to the deputy principle and pointed out that the rules stated that the uniform can be either pants, shorts or skirt, and that girls have to have the skirt at a certain length and wear no makeup... at no point did the rules say a boy was not allowed to wear a skirt of any length or was prevented from wearing makeup... the deputy replied with " if you want to show up in a mini skirt and makeup i aint going to stop you"

OK, that's a hilarious response.

OT: As you yourself said in the title of this thread, your sister screwed up. Let her learn from it that she shouldn't choose which rules to follow or not.

 

[Giftfromme]

Why the hell did she admit to drinking?

It's called "honesty"

Ahhh "honesty", people claim to want it these days, but in cases like this, lie, lie, lie. Honesty means nothing in a situation like this. It's not as if she will learn something from this situation, or become a better person. The only thing to learn is to lie, lie, lie in a situation like this if it arises again.

Are you her? You see the thing is, honest people actually DO give a shit in situations like this. That's what integrity is. If you've done something wrong, man up, face the consequences and stand with your friends (assuming they were likewise suspended).

The fact that she was honest about what she did already proves she is a better person. Lying if anything else will probably betray her own principles, and prove herself untrustworthy in the eyes of her school faculty. One thing you have to realize with age is, that the older you are, the better you can read people. A lot of teachers know when students are lying.

Then she needs to get better at lying lol. I'm of the opinion that the theory that states that our brains got larger and we got smarter because of deception. The fact that we could deceive each other gave rise to our intelligence. A lot of this was to do in the sexual arena, especially on the savannah, but this includes a lot of aspects of life. So if she can lie in this case, then all the power to her lol. But that's just me off course.

 

[Guffe]

You said she had every intention of drinking. She's in ninth grade, she probably shouldn't be getting drunk just yet. Maybe this will discourage her from trying it again until she's older. I'd say it was justified.

wow...
I agree on the "shouldn't drink at such an early age" thing but can't help wondering how many people do it? I'm a Finn and here very very FEW people have not drank at ninth grade... some even start at the age of 11-13. I wonder if we are just screwed up here or if this applies to the rest of the world also?!

On Topic:
10 days sound slike a lot but then again she violated both school rules and to some extent the law (if they are similar to Finnish laws).

 

[Funkysandwich]

10 Days for drinking? In my school, two guys I knew got caught smoking weed on an excursion (in a public place) and they got 3 days.

3 days for doing illegal drugs in public.

 

[LuckyClover95]

That's really shit for your sister, but there's nothing you can really do about it. Grade 9 is like, year 10 in Britain right? Personally, I got drunk multiple times with my friends during year 10, and we all turned out all right - America has a tendency to go over the top with these things. So I hope your parents aren't mad at her. If your family isn't mad at her, tell her to enjoy her days off

 

[Scarim Coral]

I with the school with this one. I mean afterall teenager aren't to drink alcohol just yet.

 

[DalekJaas]

If she had 2 sips she shouldn't have said she had because it wouldn't be traceable in her system. She dug her own grave.

 

[Hitokiri_Gensai]

Yeah, unfortunately, school policy is still school policy. Quantity, especially under the legal age tends to be frowned upon.

Here in the US, someone underage has a MUCH lower "legal limit" than someone than whose legally able to drink so.

Anyhow, theres not much you can do.

Do you mean zero? I suppose zero is technically less than .05 and up, but why bother saying it at all?

I find your post silly

A lot of medicines, and mouthwash and so on, contain alcohol, so there IS a "legal" limit for those under the age of 21 in the US. That way if they happened to be taking medication or for god sake, used mouthwash, they're not going to get arrested for it.

 

[AgentLampshade]

Heh, back at my prom, one of the teachers agreed to hide ours in her car. Good times.

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

Rules are Rules buddy, she broke em and now she is paying the price.

 

[Kyogissun]

Sorry bro, school rules are still rules.

And she still drank so... Yeah, no getting out of that.

She deal with it, learn from it and maybe grow a little from it. =/

 

[LJJ1991]

Why did your sister have every intention of drinking?! She's NINE! Punishment justified.

EDIT: Hold on a second, I read that wrong. She is in grade 9. Which would make her 13 or 14, maybe 15. Punishment still justified.

 

[jaketaz]

When you know what the rules are and break them on purpose, there are consequences. I don't understand the point of this question.

 

[Tiamattt]

While I kinda question whether or not the school had grounds to punish her considering it wasn't on school property she did admit something illegal, so I would take them handing out the punishment over them calling the cops or something. I only hope this experience will teach her to have better things to having "every intention of" doing, like stuff that isn't against the law.

 

[FEichinger]

Would anyone mind explaining the concept of "We tell people who broke our rules that they aren't allowed to come here for X days"? I mean, those breaking school rules are most likely the same people who couldn't care less about being suspended ...
Yes, it is a punishment in regards to "You won't have access to the stuff we teach over the course of your suspension" ... But honestly, which rule-breaker gives a flying about his or her school career in the first place?

Now as for the OP ... I believe most has been said already, but one thing strikes me right now ... Why on Earth does someone, who isn't even remotely close to an openly visible drunk-status, admit it after a friend threw up? ... Like, seriously ... Schools have no authority to call for an actual test, unless they call the cops - which can be pretty damn embarassing for the school, regardless of the results ... So ... While being honest regardless of the situation is a perfect example of categorical imperative, it is ... considerably retarded when confronted by an entity that does have some authority over yourself ...

 

[pffh]

Do you have any proof other then her word that she only had two sips?

 

[DracoSuave]

I disagree all the alcohol drinking age does is push drinking into unsafe areas, either with no adults nearby or worse still out on the streets. (previous experience here).

Now i don't know the grade system over there so i dont know what age she actually was, but teenagers will drink (myself started at 14 i think) its part of emulating the world around you and it should be done in controlled environments rather than forcing them to do it in a place where they won't have support if something bad were to happen.

You all got to find your limit sometime.

It'a not about teenage drinking, it's about being inappropriately drunk. There are many functions in society as adults where drinking is highly inappropriate and can land you into big trouble. You don't go to work drunk, and you don't go to school drunk.

We're not talking about kids getting drunk in their parents' basement here. We're talking kids drinking then going to a function where inebriation is frowned upon. This is bad for adults to do, why isn't it bad for kids?

 

[Vicarious Reality]

I don't get it, why did she get suspended from school for drinking at a dance?

 

[PhantomEcho]

Eh, alcohol is a funny thing, see.


Was the school right? Yeah. Sure. They followed the law, and issued a punishment that I'm sure will do absolutely no good whatsoever. But hey, that's the law, and that's the rules, and plenty of folks have already said you can't really do much about it.

However, the laws are flawed. They always have been. They always will be.

Laws should be reserved for things that are inherently harmful and dangerous. Laws should be in place for the prevention of things things that are violent, aggressive, and otherwise disruptive to society.

Sure, alcohol can be disruptive... but it isn't illegal at ALL ages. Just the ages we have arbitrarily decided people are too STUPID to have it. Which is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Believe me, we're ALL too stupid to have it. But since we're having it, we might as well be teaching the lessons about RESPONSIBILITY, and ALWAYS WATCH YOUR DRINK, and NEVER DRINK AND DRIVE, and NOBODY LIKES A DRUNK.

Instead, we make it this mysterious wonder-elixer that kids can't have because fuck-all if they can understand psychology.

And sadly, the psychology behind that just makes them want it more. It makes them MORE likely to drink. It makes them MORE likely to experiment. And it makes them LESS LIKELY to have any supervision or guidance.

But of course, knee-jerk reaction laws like these are a the modern age of civilization.

Just remember, when the LAW has to take over for Common Sense... then Common Sense can no longer be said to be Common.


I can only hope someone teaches this girl about drinking RESPONSIBLY... about WHEN and WHERE drinking is appropriate. If you don't talk about it, then they're just going to drink WHEN and WHERE they please. And then you can look forward to even MORE suspensions, perhaps arrests? I don't know how the law works up there exactly.

Meh, oh well. Anyways... that's my two cents. Make of it what you please.