Natal 2 Already In Development
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I assumed most people here would be a little more educated on the subject matter... Do you honestly think Nintendo waited to see if the Wii was successful before beginning some sort of development on their next console?
Or, hey, Sony is totally still not even working on the PS4, 'cause it's so many years away, right? Oh, wait! No! They are working on it! OMG TEH PS3 IZ FAIL!
And since most game sequels' development is begun before the original ships than most games with sequels must suck! Yay, good logic!
Come on, people. Technology of this sort takes many YEARS to research, develop, test, etc. How is ramox the only one here who understands that?
Or, hey, Sony is totally still not even working on the PS4, 'cause it's so many years away, right? Oh, wait! No! They are working on it! OMG TEH PS3 IZ FAIL!
And since most game sequels' development is begun before the original ships than most games with sequels must suck! Yay, good logic!
Come on, people. Technology of this sort takes many YEARS to research, develop, test, etc. How is ramox the only one here who understands that?
Wow, they really are desperate to have a better public image it seems. Trying to turn themselves into a business like Apple. They'll need a lot of work before that happens.
I'm kind of surprised why so many big technological companies like Sony and MS have such a bad name in public. Well announcing Natal 2 certainly won't make it stop....
I'm kind of surprised why so many big technological companies like Sony and MS have such a bad name in public. Well announcing Natal 2 certainly won't make it stop....
Hey, fuck you buddy, the Zune is sweet. People don't buy it because they're so balls deep on "i" products.
nearly every company does this. its good strategy and has alot to do with how quickly technology advances.
sidenote, why does everyone hate on the zune. I have the 80 gig model and I love it. i bought it because i wanted something to play music on, and it does that very well. were the ipod makes music a pain in the ass with media rights protections and what not.
sidenote, why does everyone hate on the zune. I have the 80 gig model and I love it. i bought it because i wanted something to play music on, and it does that very well. were the ipod makes music a pain in the ass with media rights protections and what not.
And now Natal going Tango Uniform will be even funnier. I'm thinking it would be wiser to try and make this one better. If nothing else wait 'til the first one has hit the market.
Wow why the outrage, don't you realize that natal is not just going to be an xbox thing? also they will NOT put out a natal 2 a year from release of 1. I highly doubt we will even see a natal 2 this gen.
In other shocking news Sony and Microsoft both have teams working on next gen specs for. consoles. I mean really ppl come on think a little bit about this.
Nothing out of the ordinary, just common practice.
Tech is outdated the moment it comes out, if your not continuing to advance your competitor is.
In other shocking news Sony and Microsoft both have teams working on next gen specs for. consoles. I mean really ppl come on think a little bit about this.
Nothing out of the ordinary, just common practice.
Tech is outdated the moment it comes out, if your not continuing to advance your competitor is.
Look ALL companies do this, even if they don't admit it, even if they don't consciously know it.
Every time a technician discovers that a feature is too advanced, too expensive, or not compatible with a current iteration then they don't just discard it, they put it into the "product 2.0" pile.
The only difference here is Natal's team is naive enough to spout openly about this as if it is in any way a good thing, this is a BAD thing to talk about as:
-it makes people think Natal is not such a focused product
-it makes people think the first Natal will be a 'flash in the pan' to be quickly surpassed (so waste of money)
-it draws attention away from Natal 1 to Natal 2
Microsoft is REALLY new at this stuff, all around it is the newest developer in the industry, though it s an old company, remember they themselves did not make the Xbox 1, it was a mostly outsourced design and manufacture to Nvidia.
And especially motion, Nintendo and Sony have been experimenting with motion and other novel user interfaces for DECADES but Microsoft really hasn't even experimented with the basics, Natal is their FIRST attempt at a controller other than a run-of-the-mill gamepad.
I personally don't think they even got the 360's gamepad right:
-powered by AA batteries as standard... WTF!?!?
-Why does the battery-pack stick out like it was added as an afterthought?
-It's bigger and heavier than necessary
-why are the buttons so soft and squidgy?
-there are no special features to distinguish it from the competition (like motion or extra buttons)
-WTF is with the d-pad?
I think Natal is going to be a lot like that with a kind of "wow, overall pretty good but it's got a dozen little annoyances"
Microsoft are quite a good software company but in terms of hardware design they are playing serious catchup and IMHO they have a severely ineffective company ethos on all non-software aspects. The RROD problem is endemic of how inexperienced they are in the nuts and bolts of designing, building and quality control.
Every time a technician discovers that a feature is too advanced, too expensive, or not compatible with a current iteration then they don't just discard it, they put it into the "product 2.0" pile.
The only difference here is Natal's team is naive enough to spout openly about this as if it is in any way a good thing, this is a BAD thing to talk about as:
-it makes people think Natal is not such a focused product
-it makes people think the first Natal will be a 'flash in the pan' to be quickly surpassed (so waste of money)
-it draws attention away from Natal 1 to Natal 2
Microsoft is REALLY new at this stuff, all around it is the newest developer in the industry, though it s an old company, remember they themselves did not make the Xbox 1, it was a mostly outsourced design and manufacture to Nvidia.
And especially motion, Nintendo and Sony have been experimenting with motion and other novel user interfaces for DECADES but Microsoft really hasn't even experimented with the basics, Natal is their FIRST attempt at a controller other than a run-of-the-mill gamepad.
I personally don't think they even got the 360's gamepad right:
-powered by AA batteries as standard... WTF!?!?
-Why does the battery-pack stick out like it was added as an afterthought?
-It's bigger and heavier than necessary
-why are the buttons so soft and squidgy?
-there are no special features to distinguish it from the competition (like motion or extra buttons)
-WTF is with the d-pad?
I think Natal is going to be a lot like that with a kind of "wow, overall pretty good but it's got a dozen little annoyances"
Microsoft are quite a good software company but in terms of hardware design they are playing serious catchup and IMHO they have a severely ineffective company ethos on all non-software aspects. The RROD problem is endemic of how inexperienced they are in the nuts and bolts of designing, building and quality control.
People don't hate the Zune... they just don't love it.kevo.mf.last said:
I blame Microsoft for completely failing to support it or to offer any challenge to Apple and their ipod monopoly. As a result cars, radios, waffle-machines, etc are spouted as "ipod compatible" and not "zune compatible"
Zune has a chance, it is a cheaper alternative to the ipod with improved features/performance in some areas but Microsoft just act like throwing it out there with Apple's mind-share it will somehow do well.
I can see that. its not really a product that sells itself well and microsoft doesnt seem to do alot of marketing for it.Treblaine said:
