Preach on, my brotha. Preach on.SlumlordThanatos said:The problem with this is that Hulu sucks. Blocking your views if you're running Adblock, and their Plus plan doesn't even get rid of the ads. I tried watching Stargate SG-1 on my sister's Hulu Plus account, but couldn't because of the stupid, unskippable ads that I assumed would be removed SINCE I'M PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. (To clarify: I was thinking of getting my own account, so I tried out my sister's for a while) Ads are there to make money off of free users, not to mooch more money off of people who are already paying for it.
The damn point to paying for a streaming service is so that you don't have to deal with ads. If Netflix is losing a huge chunk of their content to fund shows that I probably won't watch anyway, what's the point of paying for it?
Am I going to be made to start my own streaming service? With blackjack and hookers?
It's not ideal that *all* the ads are unskippable by paying customers, but I don't necessarily see the problem with serving paying customers some form of advertising, since it's a revenue stream that (presumably) keeps the cost to customers down by subsidizing part of the cost of the service. If that business model allows a service like Hulu to pay more license fees to keep a larger content collection online, I think ads are pretty fair, and no different from what cable does, really, except that the cost is, ideally, less and the customer, again ideally, isn't beholden to a network's program director to decide what they want to watch and when.SlumlordThanatos said:The problem with this is that Hulu sucks. Blocking your views if you're running Adblock, and their Plus plan doesn't even get rid of the ads. I tried watching Stargate SG-1 on my sister's Hulu Plus account, but couldn't because of the stupid, unskippable ads that I assumed would be removed SINCE I'M PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. (To clarify: I was thinking of getting my own account, so I tried out my sister's for a while) Ads are there to make money off of free users, not to mooch more money off of people who are already paying for it.
The damn point to paying for a streaming service is so that you don't have to deal with ads. If Netflix is losing a huge chunk of their content to fund shows that I probably won't watch anyway, what's the point of paying for it?
Am I going to be made to start my own streaming service? With blackjack and hookers?
You know, back in the 1990s, I had a teacher who made this shit sound so cool. He said once the infrastructure was common enough, we'd be seeing on demand TV programming, potentially even in real time. He gave all sorts of examples, and it sounded super cool. A pity then, that he forgot to mention the need to subscribe to several different services, hoping at least one would carry them. Or that "on demand" really meant the studio's whim. Or that there would be commercials on paid services.Casual Shinji said:Isn't the digital era grand? I mean, what's the point anymore in having physical copies of our entertainment when we can just go online andhope some studio conflict hasn't gotten dozens of movies removedwatch it?
I loves me a good Zucker Brothers reference, but I don't think the bit where it's a Lloyd Bridges joke was the problem. They specifically reference attributing it to a third party, which does come off as unprofessional (even in the context of then saying the interview never happened).JaredJones said:You get that that joke was an Airplane! reference, right? As in the movie mentioned in the line the preceded it. I can't see anyone confusing that with something Hastings actually said, but in either case, duly noted. This is probably one of the most level-headed criticisms I have ever received. Cheers.
The problem is, Netflix has been losing content since well before they decided to do original programming. I suspect that their change in focus has more to do with their options. They've bee losing business because you can get more money out of Hulu Plus users who both pay and watch ads than you can from Netflix subscribers. It seems like they think their only option is to provide something that can't be picked up on a competitor's service.SlumlordThanatos said:The damn point to paying for a streaming service is so that you don't have to deal with ads. If Netflix is losing a huge chunk of their content to fund shows that I probably won't watch anyway, what's the point of paying for it?
Thanks to this kind of news I too get more and more worried about the 'Data Dark Age' we seem to be getting into. More and more cultural products seem to become so very...throw-away. Yeah I don't like it, I don't like it one bit. I hope that, later in life, I can actually acquire a good physical collection. But with my tastes and passion for anything media, that'd be neigh-impossible to finance.Casual Shinji said:Isn't the digital era grand? I mean, what's the point anymore in having physical copies of our entertainment when we can just go online andhope some studio conflict hasn't gotten dozens of movies removedwatch it?
...Charcharo said:That moment when you have no idea what Netflix is... ...
I have to agree with this. Ads are annoying, true but in the case of Hulu they're fairly well timed, do not take up a lot of the time in-between viewing and are easy to ignore plus they do not break up movies. I haven't watched cable TV for a while until quite recently and found myself extremely annoyed at the sheer amount of time spent on ads alone. I do hope that Hulu realizes theirs is the best policy for a streaming service that is partially subsidized by ad revenue and does not increase the amount of ads and time spent watching said ads.frizzlebyte said:It's not ideal that *all* the ads are unskippable by paying customers, but I don't necessarily see the problem with serving paying customers some form of advertising, since it's a revenue stream that (presumably) keeps the cost to customers down by subsidizing part of the cost of the service. If that business model allows a service like Hulu to pay more license fees to keep a larger content collection online, I think ads are pretty fair, and no different from what cable does, really, except that the cost is, ideally, less and the customer, again ideally, isn't beholden to a network's program director to decide what they want to watch and when.
Let me put it this way: if Netflix said they were going to make their customers watch advertisements in exchange for a catalog of titles that's not in flux as it is now, believe me, I'd be more than happy to put up with ads. There would, of course, be better and worse ways to implement such a thing, but I don't reflexively blanch at the idea of ads on a pay-to-stream service. It depends on whether and how the customer benefits from the arrangement.
Two things that might interest you.SlumlordThanatos said:The problem with this is that Hulu sucks. Blocking your views if you're running Adblock, and their Plus plan doesn't even get rid of the ads. I tried watching Stargate SG-1 on my sister's Hulu Plus account, but couldn't because of the stupid, unskippable ads that I assumed would be removed SINCE I'M PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. (To clarify: I was thinking of getting my own account, so I tried out my sister's for a while) Ads are there to make money off of free users, not to mooch more money off of people who are already paying for it.
The damn point to paying for a streaming service is so that you don't have to deal with ads. If Netflix is losing a huge chunk of their content to fund shows that I probably won't watch anyway, what's the point of paying for it?
Am I going to be made to start my own streaming service? With blackjack and hookers?
What if I use Netflix over Hulu because I really, really hate ads? Honestly I would probably prefer Hulu's selection, but I get visibly pissed when I have to wait even 3 seconds to watch what I actually want to watch.frizzlebyte said:It's not ideal that *all* the ads are unskippable by paying customers, but I don't necessarily see the problem with serving paying customers some form of advertising, since it's a revenue stream that (presumably) keeps the cost to customers down by subsidizing part of the cost of the service. If that business model allows a service like Hulu to pay more license fees to keep a larger content collection online, I think ads are pretty fair, and no different from what cable does, really, except that the cost is, ideally, less and the customer, again ideally, isn't beholden to a network's program director to decide what they want to watch and when.SlumlordThanatos said:The problem with this is that Hulu sucks. Blocking your views if you're running Adblock, and their Plus plan doesn't even get rid of the ads. I tried watching Stargate SG-1 on my sister's Hulu Plus account, but couldn't because of the stupid, unskippable ads that I assumed would be removed SINCE I'M PAYING FOR THE SERVICE. (To clarify: I was thinking of getting my own account, so I tried out my sister's for a while) Ads are there to make money off of free users, not to mooch more money off of people who are already paying for it.
The damn point to paying for a streaming service is so that you don't have to deal with ads. If Netflix is losing a huge chunk of their content to fund shows that I probably won't watch anyway, what's the point of paying for it?
Am I going to be made to start my own streaming service? With blackjack and hookers?
Let me put it this way: if Netflix said they were going to make their customers watch advertisements in exchange for a catalog of titles that's not in flux as it is now, believe me, I'd be more than happy to put up with ads. There would, of course, be better and worse ways to implement such a thing, but I don't reflexively blanch at the idea of ads on a pay-to-stream service. It depends on whether and how the customer benefits from the arrangement.
Would you be willing to pay an extra $3-5 to go ad-free? I suppose I might be, which is why I'm asking.Double A said:What if I use Netflix over Hulu because I really, really hate ads? Honestly I would probably prefer Hulu's selection, but I get visibly pissed when I have to wait even 3 seconds to watch what I actually want to watch.frizzlebyte said:snipSlumlordThanatos said:snip
No, you cannot get netflix in your country. only a few western European countries and north America can use it. unless you use VPNs or something. oh yeah and Australia i guess.Charcharo said:It is not a thing here. It just... well it probably exists and no one uses it here. It is dead as a console here.
Sure someone uses it... but they are the absolute minority.
So much so that I dont know what it actually is.
*Did check now though... sounds uninteresting to me, but I am a person that mostly reads books and plays games...
no, the downside to Hulu is that after paying an extortionate amount they still think its ok to serve ads in the middle of your viewing experience.byte4554 said:Wait. Hulu is getting the movies? The main downside to Hulu has always been its movie selection. Hulu is going to be a goddamn streaming powerhouse. (Even more than they are now)