Gotta wonder if the writers back then were completely straight-faced with segments like these or...because I kinda doubt they ever foresaw the coming changes in social norms eventually turning them into humor pieces.
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New Call of Duty game let's players be Non-binary
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Gotta wonder if the writers back then were completely straight-faced with segments like these or...because I kinda doubt they ever foresaw the coming changes in social norms eventually turning them into humor pieces.
Yes, I value respect, and pretending that sexism never existed is both disrespect and cowardice. Whitewashing the aspects of history you don't like, especially when the government is concerned, is propaganda. It's like China's erasure of Tiananmen Square.
If you want to include a gun or a firefight or an advanced technology, that's fine. If you want to erase prejudice so that the government gets to look more progressive and accepting than it actually was, that doesn't sit right with me.
How is COD or Battlefield in anyway respectful of history? They're the digital theme park version of history, akin to complaining about forks at Medieval Times when you're drinking Pepsi.
I just find it weird how some ahistorical bullshit is fine but others is akin to China erasing a massacre they pulled off because reasons.
I don't think I can shoot things in the face properly unless I'm playing a manly man.
Edit: wait a minute, this is the game with a 250gb install. At least now I know why, it's to fit all those genders.
Edit: wait a minute, this is the game with a 250gb install. At least now I know why, it's to fit all those genders.
I don't think making a historical setting into a fun video game is inherently disrespectful, and especially not in the same way that it whitewashes history in a way that makes the government look more progressive than it actually was.
Trying to "pin" me on this is like trying to pin someone saying "I don't like murder" with "But you play video games where you murder people! Ha! Gotcha!"
Ok, but again, the question is "Why is one form of BS intolerable(involving improper gender roles in warfare) but others (Shooting down half the luftwaffe with a single flak gun) totally cool with you?"
Because CoD and Battlefield are both lowest common denominator gun porn games. I don't see how a couple of the soldiers holding the rifles having vaginas instead of dicks is inherently more awful then all of the other unbelievable and ahistorical shit these games expect you to roll with.
The WW2 CoDs basically took the movie version of WW2 and dumbed it down even more but that's not the sticking point. It's adding some women soldiers slugging off 17000 bullets to the head before hiding behind a barrier for 30 seconds to heal up that sticks in your craw, apparently.
And hell, since we started talking about the BlOPS series, which is even more stupid and laden with conspiracy theories with the other games, we can throw in mind control, numbers stations, the JFK assasination, MKULTRA, soviet sleeper agents causing social unrest, Operation Gladio-style CIA BS and all other crazy shit. Having a non-binary Protag is probably the least crazy thing to add in there.
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One is pretending that a gun or whatever is more powerful, or has infinite ammo, or whatever you think the issue is there.
The other is pretending that the government is more progressive than it really was.
The difference should be clear. One is pretending that sexism never existed. The other is not.
They pounce on things they can criticize, or when they can praise a friend's project.
New ‘Call of Duty’ lets gamers play as nonbinary gender characters, polarizing fans
There are more than two genders in the latest ‘Call of Duty’ gamewww.yahoo.com
Apparently you can do this in Call of Duty now. I'm surprised I didn't see this earlier on Kotaku because they love pouncing on this kind of thing. Either way it's a thing.
Neat.
Don't really know what it does for anyone considering it's a first person game and you are basically yourself. Though I suppose having the option means something to somebody. I mean I never even notice the male/female differences in multiplayer, all I ever see is me getting shot in the face.
But hey the option is there, so that'll make the Gender advocates happy maybe. I hope there are rainbow hair options too. Nothing helps you be sneaky in war that having the hair of a vibrant clown.
I'm really glad that this super important feature is in. We all know that the real joy from playing a multiplayer shooter comes from being able to pick the gender of the arms holding the weapon in front of it. It's a good thing that they decided to invest in this. Who needs more than 6 MP maps anyway?
You don't now panto dames?
I feel bad for Americans
There isn't a distinction though. That's the thing. I've seen enough fools on Tumblr and other places telling people they're non binary or must be non binary because they enjoy things that aren't traditionally associated with their gender. They're seemingly enforcing a gender binary more strongly than anyone else.
Don't feel bad. Not everyone from every country is going to know every single type of dance. I now know, and I'm moving on.
Once again, their problem for trying something or believing something so foolish. Besides, I don't even look at Tumblr. from my last check, totally don't make up the entire population of the earth. What are you talking about is a very loud vocal minority at best.
Again with no clear rules merely feeling you don't fit in is the only grounds and if people push the idea of the binary being more solid then it's easy to push the idea.
Tumblr still gets used a fair bit and yes it doesn't make up the entire population it makes up enough people that a lot of the Non-binary talk has come from there initially.
Good for them, if they want to talk about it. Does not mean they're right, but once again it's a non-issue and the planet:s got bigger problems than them.
Because that's pretending the government was more progressive than it actually was, kind of like pretending that there was never any massacre at Tiananmen Square.
Wanna fabricate a firefight at the Duga radar array? Go for it. That's totally within the boundaries of the "secret history" genre.
Want to pretend that the government was never sexist or racist? Propaganda.
I don't know how many more times I need to say it.
Oh, don't worry, I do. I took umbrage with this too:
'Call of Duty: Modern Warfare' Blames the Highway of Death On Russia
Highway 80 connects Kuwait City with Basra, Iraq and has been used in multiple military engagements. At the end of the Gulf War, it was nicknamed the Highway of Death after U.S. coalition forces spent hours bombing and shooting a convoy of vehicles retreating from Kuwait.
www.newsweek.com
But this topic isn't about that now is it?
You're trying to paint me as a hypocrite for not speaking out equally against this or that because you know you don't actually have an argument, and discrediting me is the best you can do. You can't explain why it's not propaganda to pretend that the US government was never sexist.
Can you really play a 'Historical FPS' unless you have a rendered dick that you can't see?
Wait? What's that? They don't even bother rendering the dick? You're literally a ken doll at best? Oh the humanity!
yes it has and we're dealing with people who can't pick one of two pretty arbitrary boxes that define almost nothing in life anymore.
Are you genuinely implying that the implementation of this simple text change sapped significant resources from elsewhere?
No, there's no reason to get knickers in a twist that can be rationalised as concern for resource management.
As opposed to people angry about there being one too many boxes, which is apparently a much more reasonable stance to take.