New Code of Conduct

[DoPo]

Worth noting that people who have been permabanned have been given a second chance after a while - a year or so. Vault101 has returned and even Zeel himself got unbanned for a (very short) while. Retroactive ban lifting is not really needed, as permabans aren't that permanent.

Good point.

Not really sure what the official standpoint is on that kinda thing, but there's certainly precedent.

I'm fairly sure that is the official stance - if you get permabanned, you can eventually come back. It's not stated in the rules, but it has happened - Vault101 and Zeel aren't even the only ones, just two names I remembered - there was few more. Not a lot, mind you, but I imagine it's not because the rest who wanted to be back were denied but because they didn't want to be back. Which is understandable, as well.

 

[Barbas]

(Snip).

That's all right. Always flag what you think a mod needs to see. Guidelines are being worked on that'll hopefully help us make the site a more pleasant place for you to be.

 

[NewClassic_v1legacy]

Excessive sexual content? So, artistic nudity is potentially allowed, just not porn?

Yep. There's even an artist thread floating around in Off-Topic with such things, and it's been around for years. Generally speaking, it's better to avoid nudity where possible, but as long as there's a distinction between nude art and erotic art, then it should be a non-issue.

 

[Drathnoxis]

Worth noting that people who have been permabanned have been given a second chance after a while - a year or so. Vault101 has returned and even Zeel himself got unbanned for a (very short) while. Retroactive ban lifting is not really needed, as permabans aren't that permanent.

Good point.

Not really sure what the official standpoint is on that kinda thing, but there's certainly precedent.

I'm fairly sure that is the official stance - if you get permabanned, you can eventually come back. It's not stated in the rules, but it has happened - Vault101 and Zeel aren't even the only ones, just two names I remembered - there was few more. Not a lot, mind you, but I imagine it's not because the rest who wanted to be back were denied but because they didn't want to be back. Which is understandable, as well.

Or they didn't even know it was an option. It'd actually be pretty nice to make it official and either have a clause in the rules that states you can make a second appeal after a year to be unbanned, or just get a year long ban when your bar fills up and have that be separate from a permaban.

 

[n0e]

I've warned people before in this thread about backseat moderating and derailing the topic, and the above exchange was completely uncalled for.

Richard Gozin-Yu, people can edit posts for any reason, and it is not for you to derail a topic to call that out, especially in that way. If you have a problem with what someone has said in a post, either original or edited, flag it up privately to a moderator. Don't backseat moderate and derail topics like that please.

People are free to edit their posts after they make them, regardless of the circumstances, I'd rather have someone blow off a little steam then instantly regret it and correct their mistake then prevent them from doing that, aside from all the perfectly legitimate reasons for editing after posting.

I trust this is clear and the topic can move on to what it was intended for.

Thanks.

 

[n0e]

Is telling someone else "I'm reporting you" and/or "I'm going to block you" an infraction-worthy offense? It seems like those words don't have any utility other than attempting to anger the other person. Just block/report them in silence and move on, right?

Yes, please don't do that.

Take all your issues to the staff privately, you're exactly right that all this is doing is escalating a problem and not doing anything to improve it.

 

[n0e]

Are there any strictly gaming related subjects that are still considered too contentious or controversial to bring up? I recall years ago certain console vs console and console vs pc posts blowing up in a manner that truly surprised me. I'm assuming civil tone and game appropriate subjects are a given but are there more cautions?

There's nothing in the COC to prohibit any type of gaming related topic, we're not about preventing discussion of a topic, it's how people behave within that topic. There's nothing wrong with a console vs console thread, for example, in principle, but it's probably going to cause us more work

Regardless, that's what we're here for. One can only hope people know how to handle such discussions in a civil and mature way, and those who can't adjust to that don't have to be there, basically.

 

[Soleca]

I'll believe in change when I see it.
Moderation here has always been shall we say partisan in nature and I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

 

[theSovietConnection]

*SNIP*

If I might propose a compromise between you and the other poster, perhaps reword the rule to this?

Discrimination will not be tolerated on these forums, particularly in regards to racial identity, gender identity, sexual orientation, and religious beliefs.

Perverse remarks will be subject to the PG-13 standard.

As far as my comments on the changes, I like 'em, particularly the addition of rule 0. It'll be a nice change to see that people can't skirt the rules by "Attacking the idea and not the person, but I'm totally attacking the person".

 

[IceForce]

If you have a problem with what someone has said in a post, either original or edited, flag it up privately to a moderator.

Do moderators have the ability to see previous edits (versions) of posts?

People are free to edit their posts after they make them, regardless of the circumstances, I'd rather have someone blow off a little steam then instantly regret it and correct their mistake then prevent them from doing that, aside from all the perfectly legitimate reasons for editing after posting.

Wait so, let me get this straight, we can insult anyone we like, as long as we edit our post afterwards?

 

[n0e]

Wait so, let me get this straight, we can insult anyone we like, as long as we edit our post afterwards?

I didn't say that at all. You can't insult anyone you like and then edit it right afterwards as a way to get away with insulting people at all.

We can show understanding in specific circumstances. I said it's preferable for someone to get caught up in the heat of the moment and show remorse right away than to just have their mistakes permanently engraved for all to see. That does not mean there are no consequences to those actions. Try gaming the system and it'll be delt with under Rule Zero.