New Kingdom Hearts "Recoded" for DS

[Danpascooch]

What the hell?

Stop releasing the SAME DS GAME over and over, and actually make the NEXT INSTALLATION IN THE SERIES!!!

A spinoff is bad enough, but the same spinoff five times? They have got to be fucking kidding me.

Funny that they'll make this game 5 times, but won't take another whack at FFVII...

Do you know how much they would make off of a FFVII remake?

I don't think they would make that much money Dan... remember. It's driven on nostalgia so one mistake and the fan will throws them in the bargains bins like FF13.

I do however agree that remaking a Cell phone game on the DS is pretty stupid. And yes, compare to a FF7 remake, they would make more money.

There will be no problem if they don't change anything besides fixing the typos, updating the graphics, and adding some sidequests.

But even if a continuity problem exists, you have to remember that when nerds rage it's because they really care about what they're raging over, and it's almost always just to blow off steam.

There is no way it wouldn't be ground shattering successful.

Still, Nerd rage is a always for something... but they always blow that out of proportions. I still recall people boycotting Sonic 4 because his ears and brow aren't right, the legs don't go as fast and he isn't the right shade of blue. I can say we are not as stupid as not letting go, for example, over one of the character new hairstyle (Some wouldn't) but one wrong mistake like... i don't know. Not putting a revive Aeris sidequest or Removing Yuffie or Vincent or Removing 50% of Sephiroth belt around his body or Removing the Moogle robot under Caith Sith... that sort of stuff can put some people into an overblown Nerd rage. Remember, The community of FF7 fan are also cut down the middle with 50/50 of the love separated between Cloud and Sephiroth. Making one more "Badass" than the other my produce another Nerd rage.

You see, it's easy pissing off fan... because sometime, It's only take a little change.

I can't see that causing any sort of measurable hit to the sales, and even if it did, do you have any idea how many people want this remake? The idea that somehow it wouldn't at least double the return for Square Enix is absurd.

 

[Akalistos]

What the hell?

Stop releasing the SAME DS GAME over and over, and actually make the NEXT INSTALLATION IN THE SERIES!!!

A spinoff is bad enough, but the same spinoff five times? They have got to be fucking kidding me.

Funny that they'll make this game 5 times, but won't take another whack at FFVII...

Do you know how much they would make off of a FFVII remake?

I don't think they would make that much money Dan... remember. It's driven on nostalgia so one mistake and the fan will throws them in the bargains bins like FF13.

I do however agree that remaking a Cell phone game on the DS is pretty stupid. And yes, compare to a FF7 remake, they would make more money.

There will be no problem if they don't change anything besides fixing the typos, updating the graphics, and adding some sidequests.

But even if a continuity problem exists, you have to remember that when nerds rage it's because they really care about what they're raging over, and it's almost always just to blow off steam.

There is no way it wouldn't be ground shattering successful.

Still, Nerd rage is a always for something... but they always blow that out of proportions. I still recall people boycotting Sonic 4 because his ears and brow aren't right, the legs don't go as fast and he isn't the right shade of blue. I can say we are not as stupid as not letting go, for example, over one of the character new hairstyle (Some wouldn't) but one wrong mistake like... i don't know. Not putting a revive Aeris sidequest or Removing Yuffie or Vincent or Removing 50% of Sephiroth belt around his body or Removing the Moogle robot under Caith Sith... that sort of stuff can put some people into an overblown Nerd rage. Remember, The community of FF7 fan are also cut down the middle with 50/50 of the love separated between Cloud and Sephiroth. Making one more "Badass" than the other my produce another Nerd rage.

You see, it's easy pissing off fan... because sometime, It's only take a little change.

I can't see that causing any sort of measurable hit to the sales, and even if it did, do you have any idea how many people want this remake? The idea that somehow it wouldn't at least double the return for Square Enix is absurd.

I know... but you don't understand what I'm trying to say. It will make money, I'm willing to bet my balls for it. What i do say is it won't be the next printing money maker you thought it to be.

Look, if it displease the gamer, we will all go to gamestop and return the game. I mean it. I love Spider-Man 2 and thought that the 3 one will be better. I traded Spider-Man 2 for Spider-Man3. I'm probably the only gamer that will confess this. It sucked and i went back 4 hours later to trade the game back. I didn't get enough to get back my spider-man 2 game. It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 13... did you remember the bargain bin full of it? I do. But what could go wrong? Who wouldn't bought that game?

1: The anti-remake crowd. There are people that hate remake on the principal that they already seen it. Yahtzee is one.

I'm judgmentally bias against it because it's a remake and I think that remake are bloody stupid.

But he's not the only one. That mean that there a bunch of people that won't buy it. Then again, that's just one tiny part right... so who care.

2: The old School gamer crowd. Yeah, yeah... It a old game and they would be interested to see the new design. I concur with you 100% Dan. But theres a fraction (bigger then you think) that will just rent it. They already have the old game and will be bias toward the original. Most of them have celebrated the return of 8bit Megaman. They love sprite, they love the bad graphic that was revolutionary back then.

3: The Hardcore fan crowd. This one is a definitive buy right? Not really. They have such a high expectation that I understand why S.E. didn't remake it. Nothing will be as good to them and that every change will brought them closer and closer to setting Square on fire. This is bloody stupid, in my opinion but it's a fact nonetheless. Sonic got that problem with them too. That's another part of the Buy crowd that go aways.

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN. Group that don't and won't let a little thing get in the way of enjoying it. That and the New gamer Crowd. Yeah, it they would remake it in multiple language(Like most new PS3-X360 game) for some of my friends, i would be able to bring it to them. I know people that would enjoy it but can't understand a word they are saying. That said... there a bunch that won't buy it like i said. For the rest, there a bunch waiting for it, and i'll be lying if I don't say that i would wait in line with my lawnmower doing the "Dead Alive/Brain dead" scene until i get my hand on it. Or just go to my Movie, Audio, Book, Instrument and now videogame shop call ARCHAMBAULT and pick it up because they don't do pre-order and nobody think looking there for new games release.

Bottom line, there not as much that would buy it, but it's definitively do well... not Final Fantasy's Well but normal game well.

 

[hassang]

As much as I hate to go back to the original topic(Sarcasmlol), Coded was one of the worst Kingdom Hearts games. Seriously. Try looking at some footage on Youtube. Now, apparently, the graphics are being remade for the DS, so it won't be as 2D-ish as on the Japanese Super phones, but still...I've heard that the only thing worth buying it for is the last few chapters, which give some really important development etc(Remember that letter back in the end of KH2? Yeah, we get to actually find out about it!5 years too late).
Also, Kingdom Hearts 3DS is apparently the new game that was actually being announced. Nomura said he wanted to release a KH game every single year, including two this year(including Birth By Sleep). Seeing as the 3DS still hasn't been made, I'm surprised they already thought about a game for it...

 

[Danpascooch]

What the hell?

Stop releasing the SAME DS GAME over and over, and actually make the NEXT INSTALLATION IN THE SERIES!!!

A spinoff is bad enough, but the same spinoff five times? They have got to be fucking kidding me.

Funny that they'll make this game 5 times, but won't take another whack at FFVII...

Do you know how much they would make off of a FFVII remake?

I don't think they would make that much money Dan... remember. It's driven on nostalgia so one mistake and the fan will throws them in the bargains bins like FF13.

I do however agree that remaking a Cell phone game on the DS is pretty stupid. And yes, compare to a FF7 remake, they would make more money.

There will be no problem if they don't change anything besides fixing the typos, updating the graphics, and adding some sidequests.

But even if a continuity problem exists, you have to remember that when nerds rage it's because they really care about what they're raging over, and it's almost always just to blow off steam.

There is no way it wouldn't be ground shattering successful.

Still, Nerd rage is a always for something... but they always blow that out of proportions. I still recall people boycotting Sonic 4 because his ears and brow aren't right, the legs don't go as fast and he isn't the right shade of blue. I can say we are not as stupid as not letting go, for example, over one of the character new hairstyle (Some wouldn't) but one wrong mistake like... i don't know. Not putting a revive Aeris sidequest or Removing Yuffie or Vincent or Removing 50% of Sephiroth belt around his body or Removing the Moogle robot under Caith Sith... that sort of stuff can put some people into an overblown Nerd rage. Remember, The community of FF7 fan are also cut down the middle with 50/50 of the love separated between Cloud and Sephiroth. Making one more "Badass" than the other my produce another Nerd rage.

You see, it's easy pissing off fan... because sometime, It's only take a little change.

I can't see that causing any sort of measurable hit to the sales, and even if it did, do you have any idea how many people want this remake? The idea that somehow it wouldn't at least double the return for Square Enix is absurd.

I know... but you don't understand what I'm trying to say. It will make money, I'm willing to bet my balls for it. What i do say is it won't be the next printing money maker you thought it to be.

Look, if it displease the gamer, we will all go to gamestop and return the game. I mean it. I love Spider-Man 2 and thought that the 3 one will be better. I traded Spider-Man 2 for Spider-Man3. I'm probably the only gamer that will confess this. It sucked and i went back 4 hours later to trade the game back. I didn't get enough to get back my spider-man 2 game. It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 13... did you remember the bargain bin full of it? I do. But what could go wrong? Who wouldn't bought that game?

1: The anti-remake crowd. There are people that hate remake on the principal that they already seen it. Yahtzee is one.

I'm judgmentally bias against it because it's a remake and I think that remake are bloody stupid.

But he's not the only one. That mean that there a bunch of people that won't buy it. Then again, that's just one tiny part right... so who care.

2: The old School gamer crowd. Yeah, yeah... It a old game and they would be interested to see the new design. I concur with you 100% Dan. But theres a fraction (bigger then you think) that will just rent it. They already have the old game and will be bias toward the original. Most of them have celebrated the return of 8bit Megaman. They love sprite, they love the bad graphic that was revolutionary back then.

3: The Hardcore fan crowd. This one is a definitive buy right? Not really. They have such a high expectation that I understand why S.E. didn't remake it. Nothing will be as good to them and that every change will brought them closer and closer to setting Square on fire. This is bloody stupid, in my opinion but it's a fact nonetheless. Sonic got that problem with them too. That's another part of the Buy crowd that go aways.

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN. Group that don't and won't let a little thing get in the way of enjoying it. That and the New gamer Crowd. Yeah, it they would remake it in multiple language(Like most new PS3-X360 game) for some of my friends, i would be able to bring it to them. I know people that would enjoy it but can't understand a word they are saying. That said... there a bunch that won't buy it like i said. For the rest, there a bunch waiting for it, and i'll be lying if I don't say that i would wait in line with my lawnmower doing the "Dead Alive/Brain dead" scene until i get my hand on it. Or just go to my Movie, Audio, Book, Instrument and now videogame shop call ARCHAMBAULT and pick it up because they don't do pre-order and nobody think looking there for new games release.

Bottom line, there not as much that would buy it, but it's definitively do well... not Final Fantasy's Well but normal game well.

I have to disagree, there are major groups who would purchase this game

1.) FF7 Fans, there are tons of them
2.) People who never played FF7 and are curious as to why it was so successful and want to play it themselves (I personally know 4 people of this group)
3.) The normal Final Fantasy buyers.

It would get all the usual Final Fantasy purchasers, plus people who were fans of FF7 or want to play it but never had the chance to play the original.

 

[Akalistos]

What the hell?

Stop releasing the SAME DS GAME over and over, and actually make the NEXT INSTALLATION IN THE SERIES!!!

A spinoff is bad enough, but the same spinoff five times? They have got to be fucking kidding me.

Funny that they'll make this game 5 times, but won't take another whack at FFVII...

Do you know how much they would make off of a FFVII remake?

I don't think they would make that much money Dan... remember. It's driven on nostalgia so one mistake and the fan will throws them in the bargains bins like FF13.

I do however agree that remaking a Cell phone game on the DS is pretty stupid. And yes, compare to a FF7 remake, they would make more money.

There will be no problem if they don't change anything besides fixing the typos, updating the graphics, and adding some sidequests.

But even if a continuity problem exists, you have to remember that when nerds rage it's because they really care about what they're raging over, and it's almost always just to blow off steam.

There is no way it wouldn't be ground shattering successful.

Still, Nerd rage is a always for something... but they always blow that out of proportions. I still recall people boycotting Sonic 4 because his ears and brow aren't right, the legs don't go as fast and he isn't the right shade of blue. I can say we are not as stupid as not letting go, for example, over one of the character new hairstyle (Some wouldn't) but one wrong mistake like... i don't know. Not putting a revive Aeris sidequest or Removing Yuffie or Vincent or Removing 50% of Sephiroth belt around his body or Removing the Moogle robot under Caith Sith... that sort of stuff can put some people into an overblown Nerd rage. Remember, The community of FF7 fan are also cut down the middle with 50/50 of the love separated between Cloud and Sephiroth. Making one more "Badass" than the other my produce another Nerd rage.

You see, it's easy pissing off fan... because sometime, It's only take a little change.

I can't see that causing any sort of measurable hit to the sales, and even if it did, do you have any idea how many people want this remake? The idea that somehow it wouldn't at least double the return for Square Enix is absurd.

I know... but you don't understand what I'm trying to say. It will make money, I'm willing to bet my balls for it. What i do say is it won't be the next printing money maker you thought it to be.

Look, if it displease the gamer, we will all go to gamestop and return the game. I mean it. I love Spider-Man 2 and thought that the 3 one will be better. I traded Spider-Man 2 for Spider-Man3. I'm probably the only gamer that will confess this. It sucked and i went back 4 hours later to trade the game back. I didn't get enough to get back my spider-man 2 game. It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 13... did you remember the bargain bin full of it? I do. But what could go wrong? Who wouldn't bought that game?

1: The anti-remake crowd. There are people that hate remake on the principal that they already seen it. Yahtzee is one.

I'm judgmentally bias against it because it's a remake and I think that remake are bloody stupid.

But he's not the only one. That mean that there a bunch of people that won't buy it. Then again, that's just one tiny part right... so who care.

2: The old School gamer crowd. Yeah, yeah... It a old game and they would be interested to see the new design. I concur with you 100% Dan. But theres a fraction (bigger then you think) that will just rent it. They already have the old game and will be bias toward the original. Most of them have celebrated the return of 8bit Megaman. They love sprite, they love the bad graphic that was revolutionary back then.

3: The Hardcore fan crowd. This one is a definitive buy right? Not really. They have such a high expectation that I understand why S.E. didn't remake it. Nothing will be as good to them and that every change will brought them closer and closer to setting Square on fire. This is bloody stupid, in my opinion but it's a fact nonetheless. Sonic got that problem with them too. That's another part of the Buy crowd that go aways.

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN. Group that don't and won't let a little thing get in the way of enjoying it. That and the New gamer Crowd. Yeah, it they would remake it in multiple language(Like most new PS3-X360 game) for some of my friends, i would be able to bring it to them. I know people that would enjoy it but can't understand a word they are saying. That said... there a bunch that won't buy it like i said. For the rest, there a bunch waiting for it, and i'll be lying if I don't say that i would wait in line with my lawnmower doing the "Dead Alive/Brain dead" scene until i get my hand on it. Or just go to my Movie, Audio, Book, Instrument and now videogame shop call ARCHAMBAULT and pick it up because they don't do pre-order and nobody think looking there for new games release.

Bottom line, there not as much that would buy it, but it's definitively do well... not Final Fantasy's Well but normal game well.

I have to disagree, there are major groups who would purchase this game

If i hate something, it's to argue with someone and his response is the same over and over until either i give up or beat the crap out of them. As such, to prove you didn't read my post, i will just requote myself.

1.) FF7 Fans, there are tons of them

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN.

2.) People who never played FF7 and are curious as to why it was so successful and want to play it themselves (I personally know 4 people of this group)

That and the New gamer Crowd.

3.) The normal Final Fantasy buyers.

For the rest, there a bunch waiting for it,

It would get all the usual Final Fantasy purchasers, plus people who were fans of FF7 or want to play it but never had the chance to play the original.

You are better then that Danpascoosh... Read what i have written before posting.

 

[Danpascooch]

What the hell?

Stop releasing the SAME DS GAME over and over, and actually make the NEXT INSTALLATION IN THE SERIES!!!

A spinoff is bad enough, but the same spinoff five times? They have got to be fucking kidding me.

Funny that they'll make this game 5 times, but won't take another whack at FFVII...

Do you know how much they would make off of a FFVII remake?

I don't think they would make that much money Dan... remember. It's driven on nostalgia so one mistake and the fan will throws them in the bargains bins like FF13.

I do however agree that remaking a Cell phone game on the DS is pretty stupid. And yes, compare to a FF7 remake, they would make more money.

There will be no problem if they don't change anything besides fixing the typos, updating the graphics, and adding some sidequests.

But even if a continuity problem exists, you have to remember that when nerds rage it's because they really care about what they're raging over, and it's almost always just to blow off steam.

There is no way it wouldn't be ground shattering successful.

Still, Nerd rage is a always for something... but they always blow that out of proportions. I still recall people boycotting Sonic 4 because his ears and brow aren't right, the legs don't go as fast and he isn't the right shade of blue. I can say we are not as stupid as not letting go, for example, over one of the character new hairstyle (Some wouldn't) but one wrong mistake like... i don't know. Not putting a revive Aeris sidequest or Removing Yuffie or Vincent or Removing 50% of Sephiroth belt around his body or Removing the Moogle robot under Caith Sith... that sort of stuff can put some people into an overblown Nerd rage. Remember, The community of FF7 fan are also cut down the middle with 50/50 of the love separated between Cloud and Sephiroth. Making one more "Badass" than the other my produce another Nerd rage.

You see, it's easy pissing off fan... because sometime, It's only take a little change.

I can't see that causing any sort of measurable hit to the sales, and even if it did, do you have any idea how many people want this remake? The idea that somehow it wouldn't at least double the return for Square Enix is absurd.

I know... but you don't understand what I'm trying to say. It will make money, I'm willing to bet my balls for it. What i do say is it won't be the next printing money maker you thought it to be.

Look, if it displease the gamer, we will all go to gamestop and return the game. I mean it. I love Spider-Man 2 and thought that the 3 one will be better. I traded Spider-Man 2 for Spider-Man3. I'm probably the only gamer that will confess this. It sucked and i went back 4 hours later to trade the game back. I didn't get enough to get back my spider-man 2 game. It's the same thing with Final Fantasy 13... did you remember the bargain bin full of it? I do. But what could go wrong? Who wouldn't bought that game?

1: The anti-remake crowd. There are people that hate remake on the principal that they already seen it. Yahtzee is one.

I'm judgmentally bias against it because it's a remake and I think that remake are bloody stupid.

But he's not the only one. That mean that there a bunch of people that won't buy it. Then again, that's just one tiny part right... so who care.

2: The old School gamer crowd. Yeah, yeah... It a old game and they would be interested to see the new design. I concur with you 100% Dan. But theres a fraction (bigger then you think) that will just rent it. They already have the old game and will be bias toward the original. Most of them have celebrated the return of 8bit Megaman. They love sprite, they love the bad graphic that was revolutionary back then.

3: The Hardcore fan crowd. This one is a definitive buy right? Not really. They have such a high expectation that I understand why S.E. didn't remake it. Nothing will be as good to them and that every change will brought them closer and closer to setting Square on fire. This is bloody stupid, in my opinion but it's a fact nonetheless. Sonic got that problem with them too. That's another part of the Buy crowd that go aways.

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN. Group that don't and won't let a little thing get in the way of enjoying it. That and the New gamer Crowd. Yeah, it they would remake it in multiple language(Like most new PS3-X360 game) for some of my friends, i would be able to bring it to them. I know people that would enjoy it but can't understand a word they are saying. That said... there a bunch that won't buy it like i said. For the rest, there a bunch waiting for it, and i'll be lying if I don't say that i would wait in line with my lawnmower doing the "Dead Alive/Brain dead" scene until i get my hand on it. Or just go to my Movie, Audio, Book, Instrument and now videogame shop call ARCHAMBAULT and pick it up because they don't do pre-order and nobody think looking there for new games release.

Bottom line, there not as much that would buy it, but it's definitively do well... not Final Fantasy's Well but normal game well.

I have to disagree, there are major groups who would purchase this game

If i hate something, it's to argue with someone and his response is the same over and over until either i give up or beat the crap out of them. As such, to prove you didn't read my post, i will just requote myself.

1.) FF7 Fans, there are tons of them

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN.

2.) People who never played FF7 and are curious as to why it was so successful and want to play it themselves (I personally know 4 people of this group)

That and the New gamer Crowd.

3.) The normal Final Fantasy buyers.

For the rest, there a bunch waiting for it,

It would get all the usual Final Fantasy purchasers, plus people who were fans of FF7 or want to play it but never had the chance to play the original.

You are better then that Danpascoosh... Read what i have written before posting.

I read your post, and I disagree with you, we cite many of the same reasons, but where you believe some of them will hinder sales, I don't, frankly I didn't understand a lot of what you typed, such as

But what those that leave them? The Fans... or as I like to call them THE DECENT FAN.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but I simply cannot for the life of me figure out what this statement means.

My argument is that this will get all the usual Final Fantasy buyers plus people who want to try a slice of gaming history and experience something they missed out on that they know is considered a cult classic. Thus resulting in higher sales than a normal Final Fantasy.

Your argument is that this will get all the usual Final Fantasy buyers minus people who nerd rage over some inevitable minor change. Thus resulting in lower sales than a normal Final Fantasy.

When it comes down to it, you think I underestimate the power of nerd rage, and I think you overestimate the power of nerdrage.

Please don't confuse me disagreeing with you with me not reading your argument, I did read it, and replied based on the parts I could understand (I feel like a dick asking this, but I don't mean it to be insulting in any way: is English your first language? Because I feel like there is a bit of a barrier here in sentence structure that makes some points (like the one I quoted above) hard to understand)

one more thing:

Look, if it displease the gamer, we will all go to gamestop and return the game. I mean it. I love Spider-Man 2 and thought that the 3 one will be better. I traded Spider-Man 2 for Spider-Man3. I'm probably the only gamer that will confess this.

Again, not trying to be rude, but if you purchased a new copy of the game (something Square Enix see's profit from) how is trading it in hurting them? And that's assuming massive amounts of people WOULD turn it back in under the "if it displeases the gamers" which is a GIANT "if" and one I can't imagine being the case. You basically said "if it's bad, it won't sell well", well duh, but Final Fantasy 7 has already proven to go over unbelievably favorable with gamers, I can't imagine reskinning it would somehow make it a piece of trash.