What? Blizzard isn't going along with anything. This story is about Riot, and only Riot, preventing players in their championship series from admitting competitive games aside from League of Legends exist publicly. Blizzard hasn't done anything here and the article isn't even about them.Trishbot said:
New LCS Contract Forbids Streaming Dota 2, Blizzard Games
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Well... yeah.cursedseishi said:
It's not even a matter of genre. Any moderately to highly successful online multiplayer game poses valid competition to League of Legends, even those that are not MOBAs. All that matters is that, despite being more or less free to play, people are willing to spend money on these games. For the most part, they spend money on them because they are actually good. World of Tanks is a huge one in that regard.
Unless I'm mistaken they'd have to give up their spot on the tournament if they don't agree to the contract. Speakin from Starcraft experiences tournament level players exclusively get their money from tournament wins and sponsorship deals. Not signin the contract means they forfeit the ability to compete in the LoL tournament and since they wouldn't be competin there'd be no one to sponsor them.Adam Jensen said:
They'd basically give up their livelihood not signin that contract.
Dick move all around. It wouldn't be so bad if they allowed them to stream on their own free time, but accordin to the contract (and the source updated with clarification as well) they literally are not allowed to stream anythin on that list at any time while the tournament is runnin. Usin my limited legal-fu that would also include anyone knocked out of the tournament meanin they would only be able to stream LoL stuff until the tournament concludes.
I mean, it is Riot just bein Riot and all so its less a dick move and more just a normal Riot move, but that doesn't make it any less messed up.
I thought Blizzard were the dickheads when they broadcast WCS during The International 3.
But no, apparently Riot also have ambitions of becoming the new Blizzard if they start doing shit like this repeatedly.
[small] MOBAs are a dirty business [/small]
But no, apparently Riot also have ambitions of becoming the new Blizzard if they start doing shit like this repeatedly.
[small] MOBAs are a dirty business [/small]
Because Riot is paying them a salary. This is far from unheard of in the business world. You don't advertise for competitors unless you want to lose your job.loa said:
Also, it looks to me people are misconstruing the text. "The following companies and/or products are not to be advertised during or adjacent to League of Legends content during the term." This would not explicitly strike all playing of those games, it's barring advertisement. IE: You cannot have a Hearthstone game while you're sitting in queue. If you want to put up a stream of you just playing that game and not LoL, you are not breeching your contract, unless you finish the game and immediately go to LoL.
Finally, I want to point out to those that don't know why this is likely to have come about. When Hearthstone beta started, keys were being primarily sent to notable streamers before anyone else, in particular LoL streamers. This got them playing the game on stream to act as a huge viral campaign where people were inadvertedly watching the game being played when they had no access to it.
No they didn't, not even by a longshot. The idea of 'toxic' behavior has been around for over a decade.Tenmar said:
I did wonder how long e-sports will stay all nice and friendly and who will be the first to bring a real world sports ringer into this, I guess that is now answered.
And just so people understand, any sport where the biggest bucks roll has you sign your life over to whoever is paying for your ass, this Riot thing is only the tip of an iceberg if they are going the same route... you wished e-sports went prime time and this is how it will do it.
And just so people understand, any sport where the biggest bucks roll has you sign your life over to whoever is paying for your ass, this Riot thing is only the tip of an iceberg if they are going the same route... you wished e-sports went prime time and this is how it will do it.
No streaming porn? Damn, that one guy a few months back is gonna be pissed.
The phrasing in the contract is a bit weird, almost begging to be misconstrued, though that's nothing new. This is the nasty world of contract law after all. One word wrong and there goes a year long legal case.
By "adjacent to" I suppose that would mean they can't just remove all League banners and titles and title it "Dyrus plays Something Completely Different"
Suppose all the streamers could start a new channel just for none League stuff if worst comes to worst.
We'll see exactly how much of a dick move it turns out to be but at the end of the day, it might suck that Phantoml0rd can't do another WoW Great Gnome Race but at the end of the day, if I tune into a League stream I don't want to see some fucking Hearthstone.
Just saiyan.
[sub][sub]Everyone knows M:TG is best anyway.[/sub][/sub]
The phrasing in the contract is a bit weird, almost begging to be misconstrued, though that's nothing new. This is the nasty world of contract law after all. One word wrong and there goes a year long legal case.
By "adjacent to" I suppose that would mean they can't just remove all League banners and titles and title it "Dyrus plays Something Completely Different"
Suppose all the streamers could start a new channel just for none League stuff if worst comes to worst.
We'll see exactly how much of a dick move it turns out to be but at the end of the day, it might suck that Phantoml0rd can't do another WoW Great Gnome Race but at the end of the day, if I tune into a League stream I don't want to see some fucking Hearthstone.
Just saiyan.
[sub][sub]Everyone knows M:TG is best anyway.[/sub][/sub]
Yes. But sometimes you need to take a stand for what's right. If they all boycott the tournament these assholes wouldn't have a choice.shintakie10 said:
For the last two years Riot has held off announcing the pot for its World Championships till after Valve announce there's for the Dota2 International, so they can then announce a larger pot than the International.Akichi Daikashima said:
Shame that this years International was one of the best ESports momnets since the Daigo Parry for me, on the other hand League World Championships were a 3-0 push over which served to do nothing other than prove what the world knew (Asia is simply above the RoW when it comes to League of Legends)
I don't think there'd be much trouble finding replacements.Adam Jensen said:
This is pretty odd but I'd bet any pro baseball player has something in their contract that they don't walk around in public sporting gear from a rival team and you may be able to draw a parallel there.
Sense when does blizzard have a say in the contracts that other companies make. How would they even know about this, and what could they do? You seem to be taking a long walk to make it look like blizzard is at fault here.Trishbot said:
I mean, I get why they want to do this. And for that reason, it seems smart.
But then there's the flip-side. EVERYONE gets why they do this, so they really just come across as overbearing and paranoid. So far that reason, it seems dumb. Really, really dumb.
But then there's the flip-side. EVERYONE gets why they do this, so they really just come across as overbearing and paranoid. So far that reason, it seems dumb. Really, really dumb.
A professional LoL player in the LCS can easily earn 500k-1M bucks a year with only streaming/play LoL(+tournaments).Adam Jensen said:
If you're in the LCS you're employed by Riot, so you've to play by their rules. Seems fair to me. Sure, it's a harsh restriction but it's definitly not worth that amount of fuss.
Do you even know what you are talking about?Trishbot said:
What is Blizzard going to say?
RIOT games is saying "Hey nerds, we know you want to continue to play games for chicken feed (unless you win) while making us tons of money, so it's unlikely you'll show any backbone whatsoever. So to our neverending benefit, we are now going to prevent you from making money anywhere else either, unless it's concurrently making us money"
And I don't see how this has any legal standing in court either. All signatories of this contract do so under no duress, so they are responsible for their own actions. If they don't want to abide by Riot's rules, they don't sign the contract, that's pretty much it.