New Mortal Kombat Can Be Balanced on the Fly
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Its not talking about AI, its talking about player vs player.Carlston said:
But I also have doubts...but since I have been playing Super Street Fighter IV alot...its atleast nice its being considered. Certainly after oh 20 years...people still just spam fireballs as Ryu and Akuma.
Somebody else is using a similar system for a new game... I'll be damned if I can remember who though.
Bungie maybe?
Bungie maybe?
I just wanna do my ridiculous Kabal juggles where the damage scaling just so happens to turn off and I'm happy.
Or Human Smoke. He works too.
Or Human Smoke. He works too.
I believe it was the Monday Night Combat guys who I heard about using it most recently, but I think it's been mentioned by a few developers lately.Loop Stricken said:
This actually sounds like it could work. Most of the time, it will just be the small things that will off balance a game, the amount of hits a move takes to kill, the length of a status effect, etc. Some times a special move is to powerful to help, sure, but that will be much rarer then "Raiden's punch will kill Scorpian if Scorpian is at 9% health while Scorpian's punch will kill at 4%."Logan Westbrook said:
No I get that, I understand the "upside" to such tweaks, I'm just thinking of higher-level players who may end up being dicked over because of these ideas. For instance, I would think that just because 80% of the SFIV community picks Ken and spams fireballs doesn't mean it should be eliminated and/or weakened altogether - there are some people who are good enough to rely on specific moves in specific situations (like someone jumps in from too far away, or you are trying to counter wake-up, etc.) and know the ideal time to use it based on it's power/priority/speed/etc. If you start re-balancing the game on the fly, yes you might get more variety, but you also end up throwing out some of the factors that make elite players so good in the first place. What's the point of learning one or few characters intimately if you can't trust the moves to work the same way every time?Kwil said:
Again, there's good and bad in this equation, I just don't know if the "good" is worth the sacrifice.
Hmm this will be interesting if true but I remain very skeptical. To my knowledge there is not a single game that has notbeen patched at least once, even if it's for cheating purposes.
I really can't wait, this is going to be good... Hopefully
I really can't wait, this is going to be good... Hopefully
You could - very well - be right. That's what I was thinking.Tom Phoenix said:
Anyway, I'm not as interested in the upcoming Mortal Kombat as I thought that I would be. I believe that I remember reading that this new Mortal Kombat was supposed to have the largest roster of any previous Mortal Kombat game - even Armageddon (Armageddon has 63 playable characters, while this new one is supposed to have only around 26). Maybe I'm mistaken; does anyone else remember hearing anything like that?
I reckon this could go well, and in fact I really hope it does..
What do I see actually happening? Well, it could end up with the multiplayer being so balanced that it actually becomes dull, in a way, and the people who just pick the cheap/easy characters in order that they can win and brag will be put off.
The opposite of MW2 syndrome.
What do I see actually happening? Well, it could end up with the multiplayer being so balanced that it actually becomes dull, in a way, and the people who just pick the cheap/easy characters in order that they can win and brag will be put off.
The opposite of MW2 syndrome.
I wonder if it resets for each match, or things change over time permanently?
Regardless im buying this game.
Regardless im buying this game.
This is forward thinking!
Although to be fair player made balance mods have existed in almost all competitive games online PC games for a while. (notable exception being anything made by Blizzard)
Although to be fair player made balance mods have existed in almost all competitive games online PC games for a while. (notable exception being anything made by Blizzard)
Where did they say anything about self-adjusting? They said that they will be able to tweak numbers server side. This doesn't mean that the game automatically adjusts damage, speed, etc, rather it means the servers will be able to manually adjust the numbers based on feedback and data received. It's no different than how just about every FPS ever made (and most PC games) allows weapon damage and such to be adjusted by the server.Tom Phoenix said:
Console gamers are so damn slow.
Really? Does anyone care about the AI? If you're buying a fighting game to play against AI there's seriously something wrong with you.Carlston said:
