New Star Trek...

[Vivaldi]

I am partial to the sci-fi genre and one of my favorites is Star Trek.
Admittedly from a sci-fi point of veiw they focus more on drama but that is not the point. I really liked the Origional and The Next Generation series because they were intersting and on occasion, funny.

When I heard that there would be a remake of the Origional series done by J.J Abrams a while back I was not sure how to react.

Until I came across this when I went to see Quantum Of Solace (it was okay...) on Friday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBQyjrRgE4c

(Note: I did not film this I found it again on Youtube afterwards)

This sort of put this film into perspective for me.Origionally I held out a small hope that maybe, just maybe that this would turn out good but instead it appears to be yet another super-special effects, digital animation stuffed exravaganza. Althouigh I have only this trailer to go on, I think it will be another souless cop out to get money.

Are all remakes doomed to be just cop outs for movie makers to get an easy dollar (I wish to point out that not ALL remakes are bad (e.g. Dark Knight))?

Also, what about the series itself? Did you watch it and enjoy it? Will this movie add anything to the origional story line or will it just avoid aknowledging it and just make up another plot? Do you think this movie will be bad and do you think you will see it? I will, if only to complain about it afterwords. But secretly I will take the little hope inside of me that it will be awsome.

What do you think?

(Sorry for any spelling/grammatical mistakes)

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Are all remakes doomed to be just cop outs for movie makers to get an easy dollar (I wish to point out that not ALL remakes are bad (e.g. Dark Knight))?

ok you absolutely lost me there

1. the dark knight is NOT a remake, if so what movie is it a remake of?.
2. the new star trek is NOT a remake, so your argument is rather flawed at this point
3. yeah they like to show a lot of blowy up things in the trailers, look at most movies with blowy up parts to it
4. how can something set in the past acknowledge something that hasn't happened yet? ie Kirk exiling Kahn to some planet

personally i don't think you really have any clue about what you're talking about or what a remake (ie Dawn of the Dead or The Day the Earth Stood Still) really is, cause the new Star Trek movie is not a remake in the least

 

[Vivaldi]

Are all remakes doomed to be just cop outs for movie makers to get an easy dollar (I wish to point out that not ALL remakes are bad (e.g. Dark Knight))?

ok you absolutely lost me there

1. the dark knight is NOT a remake, if so what movie is it a remake of?.
2. the new star trek is NOT a remake, so your argument is rather flawed at this point
3. yeah they like to show a lot of blowy up things in the trailers, look at most movies with blowy up parts to it
4. how can something set in the past acknowledge something that hasn't happened yet? ie Kirk exiling Kahn to some planet

personally i don't think you really have any clue about what you're talking about or what a remake (ie Dawn of the Dead or The Day the Earth Stood Still) really is, cause the new Star Trek movie is not a remake in the least

I have not seen any hints at the plot and if there are any would you please show them to me becsue I do admit I dont actually know what it is about but you can agree that it a safe assumtion that it is one.

 

[Uncompetative]

As a huge admirer of Star Trek I will be boycotting this shame on its revered memory.

 

[jim_doki]

As a huge fan of Star Trek I'm going to be there opening night. this is not going to be a remake, it's a retcon. The FIRST enterprise mission. I'm all a twitter about the first new star trek in years, and it has potential not to suck. I mean provided Brannon and Braga don't write too much for it

 

[santaandy]

The new trailer has to be the 90 best Trek-related seconds of my life! I will absolutely stand in line to see this movie, despite my hatred of becoming a fanboy (at least I won't be wearing cat ears, or should I say Spock ears).

Special effects do not make a bad movie, or negate a good story. Desire for profits do that, and that is independent of special effects (look at what Berman & Braga did to the Trek franchise).

I think the OP meant to say *reboot*, not *remake*. Again, neither necessitates soullessness.

I watched and loved Trek since I was yay-high. There were good moments and bad, but I found at least something enjoyable in each series (despite only liking one movie, The Undiscovered Country, which is so awesome it should be required viewing in school instead of all that American Lit BS we normally have to go through). I think this movie will add to the mythos without degrading the spirit and intent of the original. Sure, little bits of continuity get mucked up here and there, but that doesn't necessarily take away from it's enjoyability.

The best part is the casting. So far, I think they've done a spot-on job. Here's hoping for the best.

I will *definitely* watch this movie (more than once in the theater), because it will be good as sci-fi, as a movie, and as Trek.

 

[the_tramp]

I was shaking my head throughout the entire trailer. Note to J.J.Abrams - big special effects + explosions do not make a good film.

I think we should set up a fund to send him to film school seeing that film studios keep taking him on so we might as well ensure he's making good films.

 

[xitel]

I only used to watch the one with the bald guy. Next Generation I think.

Yeah, that was Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard. I always found that season disturbing, but the best IMO, because my uncle looks exactly like Commander Riker. As for the trailer it looks like just another sci-fi action movie, which sucks, because Star Trek was NEVER about the action, it was about the exploration, and encountering new things.

 

[PatientGrasshopper]

When I had heard originally about which actors they had cast it seemed like a total joke.
I did like the Star Trek Series but I did not like Enterprise.

 

[santaandy]

As for the trailer it looks like just another sci-fi action movie, which sucks, because Star Trek was NEVER about the action, it was about the exploration, and encountering new things.

I must protest, sir. In all Trek series there were plenty of action-filled moments, and they did not negate the explorative and discoverative nature of Trek. One of my favorite TOS episodes was "A Piece of the Action." I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but it was a great action/exploration episode. The TNG episode "The Best of Both Worlds" had plenty of action and exploration too (getting to see more of the inner workings of the Borg). I particularly like the slam-bang wowie-zowie quality the action had back in the TOS era, sort of like the Adam West Batman TV show, also from the 1960s. DS9 had a lot of great dramatic episodes during the Dominion War arc. And even Voyager had a good mix of action and exploration (particularly the episodes dealing with the 29th century guy). Enterprise (with the exception of that whole Xindi nonsense) was great; I enjoyed the exploration of both the Vulcan and Andorian species, which provided plenty of action moments.

I don't understand why people say that Trek was never about the action, and why they can't like it when it is.

Oh, well, you can't please everyone. All I know is that the new movie excites me in every way, and as long as it does the same for enough other people, Trek will continue. And that is good enough for me.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

I have not seen any hints at the plot and if there are any would you please show them to me becsue I do admit I dont actually know what it is about but you can agree that it a safe assumtion that it is one.

actually no it's NOT a remake at all

it's about their first mission and how they met one another, nothing about a remake, retcon if anything but that's up for debate too

 

[Vivaldi]

As for the trailer it looks like just another sci-fi action movie, which sucks, because Star Trek was NEVER about the action, it was about the exploration, and encountering new things.

I must protest, sir. In all Trek series there were plenty of action-filled moments, and they did not negate the explorative and discoverative nature of Trek. One of my favorite TOS episodes was "A Piece of the Action." I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but it was a great action/exploration episode. The TNG episode "The Best of Both Worlds" had plenty of action and exploration too (getting to see more of the inner workings of the Borg). I particularly like the slam-bang wowie-zowie quality the action had back in the TOS era, sort of like the Adam West Batman TV show, also from the 1960s. DS9 had a lot of great dramatic episodes during the Dominion War arc. And even Voyager had a good mix of action and exploration (particularly the episodes dealing with the 29th century guy). Enterprise (with the exception of that whole Xindi nonsense) was great; I enjoyed the exploration of both the Vulcan and Andorian species, which provided plenty of action moments.

I don't understand why people say that Trek was never about the action, and why they can't like it when it is.

Oh, well, you can't please everyone. All I know is that the new movie excites me in every way, and as long as it does the same for enough other people, Trek will continue. And that is good enough for me.

I mean I will watch it but not BECAUSE of the action. I dont think anyone who has seen the T.V show will go to see the action. If anything they will go see it to see if their beloved franchise is officially dead or not.

 

[Woe Is You]

If Kobayashi Maru is there, I'll be satisfied.

It's not like the Star Trek continuity is in any way, shape or form consistent. All you really need is a ship called Enterprise, some plasma torpedoes and exploration.

 

[Vivaldi]

If Kobayashi Maru is there, I'll be satisfied.

It's not like the Star Trek continuity is in any way, shape or form consistent. All you really need is a ship called Enterprise, some plasma torpedoes and exploration.

I quess you are right...

 

[Meado]

I have not seen any hints at the plot and if there are any would you please show them to me becsue I do admit I dont actually know what it is about but you can agree that it a safe assumtion that it is one.

actually no it's NOT a remake at all

it's about their first mission and how they met one another, nothing about a remake, retcon if anything but that's up for debate too

It'd be easier to just say it's a prequal. It's after Enterprise, but before TOS. I believe it was mentioned once that the story involves Kirk beating some kind of simulation at some point. IIRC, this simulation was referred to in TOS, but I never really got into that series.

 

[Vivaldi]

I have not seen any hints at the plot and if there are any would you please show them to me becsue I do admit I dont actually know what it is about but you can agree that it a safe assumtion that it is one.

actually no it's NOT a remake at all

it's about their first mission and how they met one another, nothing about a remake, retcon if anything but that's up for debate too

It'd be easier to just say it's a prequal. It's after Enterprise, but before TOS. I believe it was mentioned once that the story involves Kirk beating some kind of simulation at some point. IIRC, this simulation was referred to in TOS, but I never really got into that series.

Second, lets just call it a prequal.

 

[santaandy]

I mean I will watch it but not BECAUSE of the action. I dont think anyone who has seen the T.V show will go to see the action. If anything they will go see it to see if their beloved franchise is officially dead or not.

You don't have to like Trek because of the action, I was just pointing out that it was there and didn't derail the series. And I saw the T.V. show and am going (in part) because of the action (more than anything to see the "get together" story and to see the new faces of Trek). And lastly, I don't think it's the franchise that's dead; its people who are dead (inside). Call it "franchise fatigue" or whatever, I wish the naysayers would at least be willing to give it a chance. Things can't stay the same forever. Casino Royale turned out okay for Bond. I mean, I gave Voyager a chance, and look how that turned out! But I still have some favorite Voyager moments.

 

[Jamanticus]

As a huge fan of Star Trek I'm going to be there opening night. this is not going to be a remake, it's a retcon. The FIRST enterprise mission. I'm all a twitter about the first new star trek in years, and it has potential not to suck. I mean provided Brannon and Braga don't write too much for it

This.

Wait....Brannon and Braga?

That's one person- Ahh..I see what you did there; good one.

Yes, I think I'll go into the film and hope for the best. If it turns out to be absolute dross, then I can laugh about its badness.......Or cry.....

 

[Vivaldi]

I mean I will watch it but not BECAUSE of the action. I dont think anyone who has seen the T.V show will go to see the action. If anything they will go see it to see if their beloved franchise is officially dead or not.

You don't have to like Trek because of the action, I was just pointing out that it was there and didn't derail the series. And I saw the T.V. show and am going (in part) because of the action (more than anything to see the "get together" story and to see the new faces of Trek). And lastly, I don't think it's the franchise that's dead; its people who are dead (inside). Call it "franchise fatigue" or whatever, you should at least be willing to give it a chance. Things can't stay the same forever. Casino Royale turned out okay for Bond. I mean, I gave Voyager a chance, and look how that turned out! But I still have some favorite Voyager moments.

True, but you cant really say that Enterprise (the newest series) really lives up to the standard held by the previous ones. For me the frnachise sort of ended there. If this new movie can change that then it will proudly sit among the other six star trek movies on my DVD shelf.

 

[jim_doki]

Wait....Brannon and Braga?

That's one person

so it is

what i meant was BURMAN and Braga