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Vivaldi

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Jamanticus said:
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Jamanticus said:
Wait....Brannon and Braga?

That's one person
so it is

what i meant was BURMAN and Braga
Oh, okay- I agree.

Too bad good old Gene Coon isn't still around...He would've made a kick-ass screenplay....
Do you think he would even want to anymore? I mean he practically saturated the ramainder of his life with that show and if he was alive today I am sure he would have gotten tired of all the spin offs to the point of just giving up. If he was alive he would totally have made a perfect screenplay but I am not sure if he would have been so exstatic to do it.
 

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As for the trailer it looks like just another sci-fi action movie, which sucks, because Star Trek was NEVER about the action, it was about the exploration, and encountering new things.
I must protest, sir. In all Trek series there were plenty of action-filled moments, and they did not negate the explorative and discoverative nature of Trek. One of my favorite TOS episodes was "A Piece of the Action." I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but it was a great action/exploration episode. The TNG episode "The Best of Both Worlds" had plenty of action and exploration too (getting to see more of the inner workings of the Borg). I particularly like the slam-bang wowie-zowie quality the action had back in the TOS era, sort of like the Adam West Batman TV show, also from the 1960s. DS9 had a lot of great dramatic episodes during the Dominion War arc. And even Voyager had a good mix of action and exploration (particularly the episodes dealing with the 29th century guy). Enterprise (with the exception of that whole Xindi nonsense) was great; I enjoyed the exploration of both the Vulcan and Andorian species, which provided plenty of action moments.

I don't understand why people say that Trek was never about the action, and why they can't like it when it is.

Oh, well, you can't please everyone. All I know is that the new movie excites me in every way, and as long as it does the same for enough other people, Trek will continue. And that is good enough for me.
That's not what I'm saying. The action parts were interesting, but what I'm saying is that it was not an action series. It was primarily about the exploration and character interactions, but this movie seems to be an action movie. I'm not saying it won't be good, but it won't be the same as the old series, if it focuses solely on aciton. However, if they're just pumping the trailer full of action to entice non-Star Trek fans, while keeping the movie true to the spirit of the original series. That would make sense economically and be good for the movie.
 

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xitel, if they were just pumping the TRAILER full of action and did not deliver it in the movie, a lot of stupid people are going to be angery and they will loose a lot of money from word of mouth reviews and impressions. And if this movie were to flop because of that, then that will just give Hollywood another reason to make everything an ultra violent animatited mess.
 

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I was into the Next Generation. It had good plot and decent action.

I'll probably watch the new movie just out of curiosity. But I'm no big fan.
 

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I'd have to say it looks good just on the grounds of being a up coming movie I wasn't a fan of Star Trek as a whole but it had it's seasons. The trailer to me just wants to catch your attention if your a mild-fan of Star Trek Major-fan or never heard of it. I'd say if your a "Real Fan" then wait till you hear more about it to start condiming it cuase the detail of the Vehicles/Spacecraft should give you some sense that there's thought into making this note-worthy good to the originsl material.Fill free to feel betrayied if longer dialog tracks appear and they're taking about being a predestioned hero from childhood or robots being brothers when no other material ever said such a thing.
 

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I sense a Star Trek: Episode One aurora about this film. Call me when Episode III redoes Spocks death as the emo dream of a tormented teenage Kirk
 

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People, it's a trailer. It's meant to be exciting and action packed. It's not meant to have a deep story and complex characters. It's a trailer.

Now, what the trailer does show, is that the production values are very high. It seems to indicate that it's trying to reach out to a broad audience (action, sex, good visuals). It has to be a movie, and not an attempt being an episode of Star Trek. Remember the second X-Files movie? Yeah, nobody does. Everyone's complaint was that it was just a long episode of the show. That's often been the complaint about the weaker Star Trek movies: they're just long episodes.

So, let's all be thankful that the new Trek actually looks like a movie. Maybe it can spark some imaginations and get us another series at least as good as TNG. (Although I will admit that DS9 really grew on me, very epic.)

PS. My Star Trek history is avid TNG viewer, lots of DS9, but very little of anything else.
PPS. The Undiscovered Country is the best movie. "Fly her apart then!"
 

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EnzoHonda said:
PPS. The Undiscovered Country is the best movie. "Fly her apart then!"
It really was the best movie, wasn't it? My favorite thing about it was the suspense. A prime example of the great directions sci-fi can take.
 

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If a reboot of the Star Trek story is necessary, which I say it is not, then at least it is certainly being done way too soon. Those of us who remember watching the original series on TV are still alive. At least wait until those of us who have watched the same actors play the same roles for all these years are gone before you have new actors play them. For us, William Shatner will always be Kirk, Leonard Nimoy will always be Spock etc.

Saw the trailer for the "new" Star Trek movie when I went to see Quantum of Solace too. Seeing those kids trying to portray such iconic characters was surreal. Sure, other movie characters have been played by more than one actor in the past, but very few of those actors played the same role long enough for them to totally inhabit the role the way that the actors who have played the Star Trek characters have done.

I may watch this Star Trek movie, but I'll wait until it's at the rental store if I do. I don't want my ticket sale to encourage this.

Why don't they go past the plot lines of Voyager and Deep Space Nine and write all new plots with new characters again? It's not like there are no stories in the Star Trek universe left to tell after the events of those two series.

As much as I liked certain episodes of the Enterprise series, I think it was a mistake and I think this new movie is an even bigger mistake.

They should learn a lesson from George Lucas and leave the back story to the classic series of TV shows and movies alone.
 

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fish food carl said:
I'm generally of the opinion that remakes are a bit... disappointing. They just don't have the magic of the originals. But, then again, the new Doctor Who is awesome, but does that count as a remake? No, it was just a long gap between the two.
Exactly! Doctor Who is one of the very very few IPs (intellectual properties) that is truly timeless. The magic of Doctor Who is that the very nature of the Doctor himself makes it possible to have as many actors play him as you like. It also makes it possible to take off with the story line in any direction you want as he can go back in time to any point and change things if he wants to.
 

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I enjoyed the Enterprise series, despite the sub-par "Xindi" season. I do believe I tried to watch it every week, up through the 3rd season. It was not bad, it was different, many people just could not take the change. Everything is always a matter of opinion.
 

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I will most likely watch this movie in due time. That time being at home or with friends on a big screen, I hate children.

I think the best way to enjoy this film is to approach it as being Star Trek in name and appearance. Trying to compare other actors to the original would just make this new film seem lacking in comparison. For me there will always be this rule: Kirk == Shatner.
 

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Putting aside the fact that this movie will be the 4th Trek movie about time travel (come up with an original idea for God's sake), this film looks like Star Trek meets Beverly Hills 90210.
 

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zhoomout said:
xitel said:
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I only used to watch the one with the bald guy. Next Generation I think.
Yeah, that was Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard. I always found that season disturbing, but the best IMO, because my uncle looks exactly like Commander Riker. As for the trailer it looks like just another sci-fi action movie, which sucks, because Star Trek was NEVER about the action, it was about the exploration, and encountering new things.
Really? Then what about this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM
As I said, the series didn't focus on the action, even though it had it.
 

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Well, at least Spock looks good. I'll try to without judgement on the rest until I see it, but I'm not holding my breath.