New Vegas Help

[twistedheat15]

*Spoiler Warning: Just in case, if you don't want even minor spoilers of New Vegas, tread carefully.

This is not a thread ripping on New Vegas. I do not know if what I am encountering is a bug, or an actual element of gameplay, and I would like to know if I need to suck it up, or there is something actually wrong with my game. (And I mean more than the usual bugging out, if it is a bug.)

I am playing as a girl, with Boone and Rex as companions. I have a pretty high karma level, and am villified by Caesar's Legion, and working with the NCR.

The problem is, I need to go visit Caesar to continue with the main quest, which is getting the Platinum Chip back. However, even if I am wearing Legion armour, I am attacked once I am inside the actual fort. (Sometimes, I am not attacked until I'm actually in Caesar's tent.) For example, I made it into the first part of the Fort from Cottonwood Cove. Once I entered the inner part, though, where Caesar's tent is, I will make my way there, with everyone showing up as allies, and then without me doing anything, they will become enemies and attack me.

For anyone who has played New Vegas, you will probably know that Caesar sends a messenger to you early in the game, telling you to come visit him, promising your protection. Of course, I was wary, and when I finally got around to visiting him, (wearing Legion armour) I was attacked on the way to his tent. I pushed my way through, though, and finally ended up talking to him, with about ten guards waiting to kill me the moment our conversation ended. In the conversation itself, Caesar told me that my protection was guarenteed, and gave me the Platinum Chip, telling me to go into the bunker and destroy whatever was in there. I'm going to assume that's what everyone has to do.

But I can't possibly continue this quest with the whole Legion at the fort attacking me. Sometimes I get killed before I can even exit the tent.

So my question is this: Am I screwed? Or has anyone else experianced similar problems to this? Or, is this just part of the game, and I need to fight my way through the Fort, even if I am supposed to be helping Caesar at the same time?

An important note would be that the game tends to lag a lot when I am around the Fort, and oftentimes, if I try to talk to one of those slaves on the cross, I won't be able to, and then afterwards switching from 3rd to 1st person gets completly screwed up. I usually end up stuck in 1st person view for a good while before I go into another area.

If anyone actually read this, thank you so much for reading until the end. Hopefully you guys have some input for me.

You're not really screwed. If your going there in disguise I'll say leave boone and rex at home so you won't get atked. If that doesn't work don't worry about going to caesars tent, you don't actually need to bother with him. You can fight the ppl on the outside and just go directly to the area you have to get too. I myself killed everyone in the fort including caesar along with the god in the shape of man known as Boone, then went along with the mission like normal. Hardest thing for me was trying to survive those ballistic fist long enough for Boone to turn their heads into fruit jello.

 

[ginty2]

did you get the mark of ceasar from that dude on the strip? that should have sent your standing back to neutral with the legion. other than that wear some neutral armor and don't have boon with you.

 

[Broken Orange]

Seems like I have been beaten to the punch, but it is Boone's fault. The only downside of having Craig Boone as an companion is that he is hostile to the Legion.

 

[Zacharine]

Seems like I have been beaten to the punch, but it is Boone's fault. The only downside of having Craig Boone as an companion is that he is hostile to the Legion.

That, and give him a sniper rifle and he'll be one-shotting enemies left and right faster that you can - at least after you do his side-quest.

But yes, OT:

One: guards, officers and dogs can see trough faction-armor disguises, and aren't exactly happy about you wearing it (unless you've actually joined the faction in question, then they'll give you a basic piece as a gift).

Second, Boone and Legion have a hate-hate relationship. Every single Legion I met, Boone instantly tried to kill (regardless of my rep with Legion)

 

[AnAngryMoose]

I ran into a similar problem just earlier today. Guard dogs can see through your disguise and if you kill them, everyone else turns. The way I got around it was by murdering everyone and then taking the Chip of Ceaser's corpse. This doesn't seem to have affected the story line so far as I am currently at the climax of the game and it's progressing smoothly; Ceaser's horde and all. Just kill them all and you'll be fine. It's basically just a a design flaw that hits people who don't answer Ceaser's call sooner and end up Vilified.

You mind if I ask how you killed them all? Maybe I just have really awful weapons, but it seems to take a whole lot just to take out one guy, especially with armour on. I'm also a level 22, so that may have to do with something...

Armour piercing bullets are your friends. Seriously, it's the only way I know to kill Legion. Also, Veronica's Power Fist really helps as well, although she can die rather quickly.

 

[Exterminas]

This is not a glitch, you walked into the legion camp with the chip and gave it into their hands by that (or you let benny run of to the legion, in which case it's probably not your fault, because you coudldn't froesse that)

In any case killing everything in the legion camp is probably the best way.

 

[GundamSentinel]

If you're working with NCR then you're going to need to continue with their quests (For the Republic) rather than going with Yes Man's (Wild Card), Mr House's (The House always Wins) or Caesar's (Render Unto Caesar).

Alternatively, if you are going to go with Yes Man or Mr House, then you need to kill all of them and loot the chip from Caesar's corpse.

What this man said. If you want to complete the NCR mission list, you don't even have to get the Platinum Chip or go anywhere near Ceasar.

 

[The Almighty Grigard]

Really though what did you expect going in there with a piece of THEIR armor on when they quite clearly know who you are and what you look like since they sent that guy to find you. Also you brought Boone? Again what did you expect?

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I would say that Boone is the reason. He always attacks the Legion whenever he sees them.

 

[Wolfinton]

Its probably Boones fault, if he killed any of the Legion near bye. You should ditch them for know, that might work.

You beat me to it.. This is your problem, Boone clearly tells you he will kill any legion on sight, he isn't the lying type either.

The only way i can describe Boone is 'Super Serious Marine Man'

I call him an Emo considering the way he acts.

Anyway, as many have said it tends to be the Dogs and/or officers that sniff you out and attack you for trying to pretend to be legion. Yes, I did say officers sniff you out.

Also, Boone will aggro on them as he clearly states. Twice.

 

[supermariner]

same thing happened to me
as far as i've found out so far
the only remedy i can imagine is restarting the game
sorry man

 

[TaboriHK]

I don't know if it's been stated but Boone makes them automatically hostile in addition to shooting them on sight. You need to leave him in Vegas.

 

[Brotherofwill]

I ran into a similar problem just earlier today. Guard dogs can see through your disguise and if you kill them, everyone else turns. The way I got around it was by murdering everyone and then taking the Chip of Ceaser's corpse. This doesn't seem to have affected the story line so far as I am currently at the climax of the game and it's progressing smoothly; Ceaser's horde and all. Just kill them all and you'll be fine. It's basically just a a design flaw that hits people who don't answer Ceaser's call sooner and end up Vilified.

You mind if I ask how you killed them all? Maybe I just have really awful weapons, but it seems to take a whole lot just to take out one guy, especially with armour on. I'm also a level 22, so that may have to do with something...

I was level 25, Anti Material Rifle, Boone and ED-E. I did have to drop the difficulty from Normal to Easy though but I could see no other solution.

Strange, I played as a level 16 with a Sniper Rifle and a carbine and I had little problems. I had melee Veronica on my side and I played it on normal settings with hardcore mode on (don't think that makes a difference though).

I went into the bunker that Ceaser wants you to clean. In there I killed the few guard with Vats in close range. Then I exited the bunker, engaged a few enemies and immediately went back into the bunker. The few guys that entered the bunker I picked off, went outside and engaged more. I killed maybe 8 guys with the bunker method. After that I said fk it and just went outside and killed them one after another while reloading a few times at most.

The real difficult part is the tent. Before the tent I used Psycho and another drug. I went in, killed 2-3 guard then quickly exited the tent to avoid being surrounded. I killed the guys that came charging out which were maybe another 4 or so (Ceasar included)...and then PHAT LOOT.

Wasn't too difficult. I think it's well doable with a little tactic.

 

[Blizzarded Soul]

I kinda had this issue. Was in Camp Mccarren and suddenly got attacked by two NCR troopers, I did absolutely nothing to provoke them and im on good terms with the NCR. Problem is if your Vilified by the Legion nothing will save you, guards and dogs WILL see through your disguise. If you took the mark of Caesar (essentially gives you a clean slate with the Legion) when prompted by Vulpes outside The Tops but continued to work against the Legion nothing you do will get you back into their good graces, that was your one and only chance of redemption. You might have to consider starting a new game.

And if i may use this thread to gain some advice of my own on New Vega.....I have been locked out of The Strip, was going in to do some quests for the Omerta's and when I got to the gate it said I needed a key. Activated the gate and it tells me that the lock can't be picked and I need the key. Im playing the 360 version, but just wondered if anybody else faced this issue, i'd really like to avoid starting a new game as ive sunk about 60 hours into it and dont really want to begin all over again.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I call him an Emo considering the way he acts.

In the literal sense, I can understand. But, generally when the term Emo is used, it is done because the person is acting in a certain fashion without proper cause to do so.

Boone, on the other hand, has plenty of cause to be a broken wreck of a man. The guilt inherent in his participation in the accidental slaughter of countless innocent people is enough to weigh heavily upon the heart of any man. That his wife was kidnapped and left to a fate worse than death is simply another stone on the load. When he found that the only help he could offer her was a quick and painless death, he was all but broken.

So, tell me, is a man burdened by the ghosts of his past, a man who had his only comfort in the world stolen by a person who's safety he assured, a man who is unable to save even a single person he cared most about not entitled to sulk? When you meet him, the only thing that keeps him going is spite.

 

[Chechosaurus]

I ran into a similar problem just earlier today. Guard dogs can see through your disguise and if you kill them, everyone else turns. The way I got around it was by murdering everyone and then taking the Chip of Ceaser's corpse. This doesn't seem to have affected the story line so far as I am currently at the climax of the game and it's progressing smoothly; Ceaser's horde and all. Just kill them all and you'll be fine. It's basically just a a design flaw that hits people who don't answer Ceaser's call sooner and end up Vilified.

You mind if I ask how you killed them all? Maybe I just have really awful weapons, but it seems to take a whole lot just to take out one guy, especially with armour on. I'm also a level 22, so that may have to do with something...

I was level 25, Anti Material Rifle, Boone and ED-E. I did have to drop the difficulty from Normal to Easy though but I could see no other solution.

Strange, I played as a level 16 with a Sniper Rifle and a carbine and I had little problems. I had melee Veronica on my side and I played it on normal settings with hardcore mode on (don't think that makes a difference though).

I went into the bunker that Ceaser wants you to clean. In there I killed the few guard with Vats in close range. Then I exited the bunker, engaged a few enemies and immediately went back into the bunker. The few guys that entered the bunker I picked off, went outside and engaged more. I killed maybe 8 guys with the bunker method. After that I said fk it and just went outside and killed them one after another while reloading a few times at most.

The real difficult part is the tent. Before the tent I used Psycho and another drug. I went in, killed 2-3 guard then quickly exited the tent to avoid being surrounded. I killed the guys that came charging out which were maybe another 4 or so (Ceasar included)...and then PHAT LOOT.

Wasn't too difficult. I think it's well doable with a little tactic.

Key difference with your experience and mine is that you used tactics. I just kept moving exploding people with my rifle. I'm play with Hardcore on too and it does make it a bit harder because of healing. You can't just take a shit tonne of Stimpaks and *poof* all better.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

I found this too. I think it's intentional. And yes, it is fustrating as hell.

You basically have 3 options:

1. Try and get on Caesars good side (but if there's a way to do this while being villified I havn't found it.)

2.Sneak though the entire camp. Stick on a Legoin outfit, take several stealth boys with you and stay the fuck away from guards and dogs. Be warned; my sneak was level 80 or so when I tried to sneak though Caesars camp, stealth boy on and I still couldn't manage it. It seems to be impossible to sneak into the tent. Your best bet is to just kill Casesar, get what you need then leg it, but even that is pretty fucking hard with blokes in roman dress up hitting you with ballistic fists.

3.Kill everyone. It's not easy. I had much of the Legoin attack me and I haven't seen as many enemies on screen since. Make sure you bring a companion along with a "phat" weapon. Sneak around for awhile and plant traps and find a decent position.

It's irritaiting that factions still attack you even when you've been granted immunity. Even though I prefer it to Fallout 3, New Vegas can be damn sloppy at times.

 

[Zacharine]

I'm play with Hardcore on too and it does make it a bit harder because of healing. You can't just take a shit tonne of Stimpaks and *poof* all better.

Actually you can. You just need to stay alive a few seconds for it to take effect. Because Hardcore mode or not, the game is paused while the pip-boy is open. SO grap as much food, drink and (super)stims as you'd like.

Here's how I did Caesars tent, in hardcore mode, with Boone and Rex.

Weapon: Sniper Rifle.
Most important Perks: Sniper, Grim Reaper's Sprint, Commando, Finesse.
1. Pop Med-X, Psycho and Party-Time Mentats or equivivalent for PER-bonus.
2. Make sure Boone has a sniper rifle, anti-material rifle or gauss rifle.
3. Aim for the head only. You'll be one-shotting all but the bosses more than half the time, and only the bosses take more than 2 shots. Kill the mooks first.
4. After every kill, open pip-boy. Check health, pop stims if necessary. Take some Jet if not enough AP to shoot at least twice in v.a.t.s
5. Keep shooting, headshots only - the criticals are absolutely devastating. Ignore those brought down by Rex: they are harmless for the moment, and can wait for 5 more seconds for a kill.
6. Loot the bodies.

Entire tent cleared in less than 30 seconds of shooting, no casualties, health never below 60% of max.

 

[John the Gamer]

I ran in there for giggles, with only boone as companion. both of us were armed with anti-materiel rifles, and we slaughtered the whole lot of them. then we went down into the shack in the back of the fort and did what we had to do.

Spoiler

wich is to activate an army of securitron droids. lol. later on you can become commander of this army if you choose the yes-man questline. the ending is pretty abrupt and boring btw. a bigger-all-out battle would have been fun.

Spoiler

killing ceasar has no real effect at all. people just start saying "I wish I could have been there." or "wow you killed ceasar" etc.

 

[CmdrGoob]

You can happily kill everyone if need be and the game continues just fine. I was only disliked by the legion when I got there and they weren't hostile, but when they wanted me to surrender my guns I was all 'aw hell naw' so I ended up killing them all.

I did it using mostly the grenade machine gun and sniper rifle, with help from some turbo/slasher/psycho/medX, that was on very hard + hardcore. If you're having trouble with a fight then take those drugs, they make a huge difference. Especially turbo.