New Writer Assumes Direct Control of Mass Effect Film

Shoggoth2588

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Hey! Click was good.

It might not have been that funny, but it was surprisingly emotional for, y'know, what it was.

So I don't consider it a complete write-off just yet.
I saw Click once it came out on DVD (and without having read/watched any reviews) and the sad part came out of nowhere for me. That was the first movie in a long time that made me actually cry dammit. Phantom of the Opera didn't and I was invested!

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As for this newish person being made lead writer of Mass Effect the movie...it makes about as much sense as ME being made EiC of this website. Hopefully the appointment will be to the films benefit but it makes me wonder why Drew Karpyshyn isn't writing the script or, one of the other Mass Effect writers.
 

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Making a movie of a game in which player choice is a major element seems pretty dumb.

Who are they making this for? Not the fans, because you're just going to piss off the majority of them. (Except for the specific set whose choices are mirrored in the film)

The Mass Effect IP has taken quite the shellacking lately, I don't see the upside here.
Who ever said they would make the movie about the game?
They did. When it was originally announced they said it would be about Shepard. At first it was meant to be about Shepard, but his own story, then they decided a game adaptation.

The Mass Effect wiki has references you can check out too, if that isn't a reliable enough source for you.
 

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They did[/link]. When it was originally announced they said it would be about Shepard. At first it was meant to be about Shepard, but his own story, then they decided a game adaptation.

The Mass Effect wiki has references you can check out too, if that isn't a reliable enough source for you.
This is a terrible idea. They should have made it in an alternate universe or with some other character. Basically what you want is a movie about the Mass Effect universe and that's it. The only thing that the movie should have in common with the game is the name and a significant part of the lore. Of course you can never please everyone, but I think it would be far better then somebodies interpretation of the first game.
 

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Instead of trying to make it about Shepard, why don't they make it about someone else? I mean Forward Unto Dawn has the Master Chief but despite him not being the main character people are really liking it.

Personally I would love it to be about First Contact.
 

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Therein lies the problem - video game movies are generally terrible, especially when you remove all the elements that made it unique in the first place. This won't work, for several reasons:

(a) Shepard is (or was) the face of the franchise, and now s/he's dead. With his/her death, a fair part of the franchise has either left Bioware entirely or won't buy anything else associated with the franchise. That in turn creates a problem - do you go with a main character who fans know will probably die anyway, or create a new character that has a homogenized personality? If they create a new character wholesale, it won't be Mass Effect anymore - the series was Shepard's story, for better or worse.

(b) No player choice. Is Shepard a Spacer, Colonist or Earthborn? Male or female? Does Shepard save Ashley or Kaidan on Virmire? Kill Wrex? Choose Udina or Anderson? If the narrative is standardized, people will stay away because the game offers more choice (at least in the first two installments, anyway).

(c) Shepard is intended to be a blank slate, molded by the actions of the player. Any potential characterization is going to be seen as a letdown by at least some part of the fanbase, if not most audiences.

(d) The budget/scope. Unless Legendary is willing to pony up $100-150 mil for top-tier talent and CGI, this is going to flop. You have various alien races (possibly with complex facial animations), CGI-heavy settings (planets, Normandy flying through space, Reapers/Collectors) and a lot of narrative that would have to either be crammed into one film or spread out over multiple installments (risking the failure of the franchise).

The recent Green Lantern film showed that, even with the best CG and story beats you can pack into a single film, it means nothing if the narrative isn't up to snuff. The ME trilogy is a 60-100 hour experience. Just trying to pack the first film into a two-hour movie isn't going to work.

Bottom line - I don't see this ever getting made, especially not by Legendary Pictures.
I oh so very politely disagree with a few of your points (which I condensed into a spoiler tag above for brevity). Allow me to discuss a few of them... now.

If they create a new character wholesale, it won't be Mass Effect anymore - the series was Shepard's story, for better or worse.
They've already succeeded at doing Mass Effect sans Shepard. The books Karpshyn wrote were fantastic - and all of them were Sans Shep. Dark Horse has several Mass Effect comic storylines without Shepard. Marauder Shields has been great without Shepard. So if they cut Shep, I would still see it, and I'm sure others would, too. The beauty of the Mass Effect Universe is that it always felt like Shep was just a small cog in the machine, and that a vast infinity existed beyond him. So I don't think the universe is tied to his/her character at all, and viewers who never played the games wouldn't even blink about it.

If the narrative is standardized, people will stay away because the game offers more choice (at least in the first two installments, anyway).
If they avoid Shep's tale, none of this would be a concern. I can't remember where or when I saw this, and I'm too lazy to search my bookmarks, but when this project was first announced I recall them saying they were not looking to retell the game. Might have been an Avi Arad quote. Either way, if they're smart, they will avoid the game (which would require a BOATLOAD of dialogue up front to explain where things are in the Universe). The First Contact War would make a lot more sense for a starting point, as we can experience the discovery of the races, the citadel, and the relays firsthand without being told about it.

Bullet Point (C) above is effectively the same reply as (B): No Shepard, no problems!

Unless Legendary is willing to pony up $100-150 mil for top-tier talent and CGI, this is going to flop.
I don't know much about movie budgets, so you may be spot on, but I will say this... cg has gotten cheaper over the years, to the point where low budget tv shows can have decent effects. If they're SMART with the money, a little can go a long way. But that's always the rub, then, isn't it? Will they be smart with the money? Dunno.

Bottom line: They will probably avoid retelling Shepard's story, which - based on the expanded galaxy of books and comics - could work out nicely. Most movie goers will not have played the games, so the lack of Shepard and veering away from retelling the games shouldn't be an issue.

... or they'll go through rewrite after rewrite and this will go the way of Gears of War, Bioshock, and Halo films, never seeing the light of day. I hope for the former, but the realist in me says expect the latter. 8/
 

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Comander shepard..played by Sam Worthington

HAHAHA oh god no

[small/]please noooo[/small]
Actually the lead has already been given to Bruce "Chin of Destiny" Campbell.
 

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I just hope they realise that no matter what they cast Shepard as, an absolute f***load of people will be annoyed at their decision. Not to mention if they make Shepard a straight Paragon character, all the Renegade fans will be disappointed at what a choir boy he would be. Basically, this movie has to be done really well, and CALL ME A PESSIMIST :D I don't think it will be.

And Jesus Christ if they show Tali's face...
 

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Actually the lead has already been given to Bruce "Chin of Destiny" Campbell.
but is he shepard?....I mean ok, a generic man in the lead would be aso bad as long as it isnt shepard
 

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Ok, I would start about "why do people think that every game needs movie adaptation?", but what I'm seriously thinking about is:
I have CRAZYYYYY idea. Lets ditch the banal maleshep the soldier character and make movie about biotic femshep? You know, just to make movie about anything else than short-brown haired soldier dude. Or at least focus action on something besides Shepard.
Am I'm only one interested in seeing defense of Dekuuna against Reapers?
So no one else? :(
 

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AAAAND i don't really give a shit, game adaptations tend to suck, you cannot fit a 20+ hour experience into a movie and it will probably be nothing like the game, except for some names. If this thing actually gets made i hope that it will be about the first contact war, it's the only good choice for a story that i can think of.
 

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It feels like they want to make the Bourne series in space.

The thing that helped me becoming immersed into the Mass Effect setting was that it felt alive, with millions of things happening in the background which the player was too busy to look any deeper into. Making the movie follow the exact same path as the games just makes every person familiar with the setting bored and newcomers will likely just see it as another Star Wars re-tread.

But I don't think anyone invloved in the project is interested in making a cohesive, let alone immersive, story.
 

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Yep.

I wont be watching this.
Since if Clueless Hudson is on board it means he is going to rewrite everything so that his insane "ROBOTS R EVUL" shit starts earlier.

We all know that no matter what the Escapist will give it glowing reviews. Just so long as EA sends them ad money.
 

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blackrave said:
Ok, I would start about "why do people think that every game needs movie adaptation?", but what I'm seriously thinking about is:
I have CRAZYYYYY idea. Lets ditch the banal maleshep the soldier character and make movie about biotic femshep? You know, just to make movie about anything else than short-brown haired soldier dude. Or at least focus action on something besides Shepard.
Am I'm only one interested in seeing defense of Dekuuna against Reapers?
So no one else? :(
Or, dude, we could just have Jason Statham play the generic Shepard and the film will automatically be the greatest science-fiction ever released.
 

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Comander shepard..played by Sam Worthington

HAHAHA oh god no

[small/]please noooo[/small]
Honestly, I've been racking my brains for a decent shepard. Currently I only think: Charlize Theron as femshep.
 

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Just give it to Uwe Boll already. I know you want to.
And make his co-director Michael Bay because, you know, he has experiences with movies about giant robots from outer space.
 

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They've already succeeded at doing Mass Effect sans Shepard. The books Karpshyn wrote were fantastic - and all of them were Sans Shep.
That's true, but (a) those were prequels, (b) they didn't feature the main conceit of the series - choice, and (c) it was criticized for pandering to fans of the franchise, and featuring generally undeveloped characters. They amounted to little more than set-ups for the game. That, and Karpyshyn is gone, so I doubt he's suddenly going to run back to pick up where he left off, especially after the franchise's shellacking.

Dark Horse has several Mass Effect comic storylines without Shepard. Marauder Shields has been great without Shepard.
I've only read Redemption. It was decent, but nothing to write home about. Never bothered with the rest after 3 came out.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Marauder Shields is a straight-up fan parody, correct? I've only seen cursory glances.

Even with that qualifier, it's not like the comics are much to write home about. All of them are relatively small-scale stories focusing on one or two characters in short situations. Nothing matches the scope of Shepard's story in the original game.

So if they cut Shep, I would still see it, and I'm sure others would, too. The beauty of the Mass Effect Universe is that it always felt like Shep was just a small cog in the machine, and that a vast infinity existed beyond him. So I don't think the universe is tied to his/her character at all, and viewers who never played the games wouldn't even blink about it.
The whole series is tied to him/her. Intrinsically. Shepard is the catalyst for the setup/resolution of the defining events in the trilogy. They continually hammer it home that Shepard is the only person in a real position to do anything about the impending danger, and all of the missions/decisions factor into the galaxy in some way, even if they were homogenized. This goes back to what I said about the comics - outside of Shepard, there are very few people who have the same depth and player-fueled characterization. Everything ties into Shepard' character in some way except the Illusive Man comics, and those were more setup for the game than anything else.

The First Contact War would make a lot more sense for a starting point, as we can experience the discovery of the races, the citadel, and the relays firsthand without being told about it.
Doesn't sound like an interesting movie to me, especially since the First Contact War could be boiled down to "robots fight purple people for years". If I'm going to see Mass Effect, I want to see Shepard, end of. Waiting for two or three films before we get a character payoff is a waste of time and money - they either have to do it with Shepard, or not at all.

Like I said, they've tried various protagonists in the comic/tie-in game lore, and all of them (besides Liara, maybe) have made no impact. Jacob Taylor was supposed to get a spinoff after 2, but everyone hated him in the game, and he was dialed back to a glorified cameo. The Infiltrator protagonist (forget his name) made no impact whatsoever.

... or they'll go through rewrite after rewrite and this will go the way of Gears of War, Bioshock, and Halo films, never seeing the light of day. I hope for the former, but the realist in me says expect the latter.
I truly hope it's the latter. There are some game experiences you just can't accurately replicate in a film without sacrificing a lot of the elements that made it unique in the first place. This is one of them.
 

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Angela Bassett would make for the most badass Shepard ever.



What I'm saying is, if it isn't Bassett I'm not going to watch the film. I've got my standards.