New X-Com Shooter Coming From BioShock 2 Studio
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This is the equivalent of saying:
This makes my heart flutter in the medical sense... as in from a state of emotional stress.
This is the equivalent of saying:
Why do modern developers try to can everything onto the same shelf? Why can't we have a modern, turn-based, NON-FPS strategy game? I loved X-Com and never thought "Wow, this would make a great First-Person game!"
This makes my heart flutter in the medical sense... as in from a state of emotional stress.
I agree with the position that it would not work well as a shooter. The whole point of the series was squad-based, tactical combat.
What's more I believe they already tried turning the franchise into an action game a couple of times with "Interceptor" and "Enforcer" and arguably I think that is what killed the franchise.
X-com mostly worked because it was an intellectual/strategic exercise as opposed to just "let's shoot the invading aliens!" which had been done millions of times before.
An X-com shooter is basically heading into the same basic territory as Halo and Gears Of War and honestly I can't see it doing the same thing better.
Claims of keeping it's strategic roots are a joke, because once you make something a shooter (ie things are resolved by your twitch reflexs) pretty much all meaningful strategy in the combat goes out the door since it's no longer about your mind, but how quick your fingers move.
What's more I believe they already tried turning the franchise into an action game a couple of times with "Interceptor" and "Enforcer" and arguably I think that is what killed the franchise.
X-com mostly worked because it was an intellectual/strategic exercise as opposed to just "let's shoot the invading aliens!" which had been done millions of times before.
An X-com shooter is basically heading into the same basic territory as Halo and Gears Of War and honestly I can't see it doing the same thing better.
Claims of keeping it's strategic roots are a joke, because once you make something a shooter (ie things are resolved by your twitch reflexs) pretty much all meaningful strategy in the combat goes out the door since it's no longer about your mind, but how quick your fingers move.
This is pretty shitty news, if I do say so myself.
No, it doesn't look promising. It looks like an FPS developer bastardizing one of the best tactical game series of all time. The game they are making is likely to have only token amounts of tactical or strategic choices, annd will likely be Bioshock reskinned.
Bioshock games were OK-ish as far as gameplay went and were only made noteworthy by their story and setting. The actual games were nothing special. Why is this relevant? Because I doubt 2K has the competence to make a tactical FPS game without it sucking. It likely CAN be done, but not by them.
The end result will either be:
1. A plain FPS.
2. A plain FPS with shallow attempts at tactics.
3. A shitty tactical FPS.
I understand that FPS games are the current dominant genre, but does everything have to be turned into an FPS?
Also, if they just wanted to do a game about aliens, why not make their own IP? Is there a single reason beyond cashing in on nostalgia that this game has to be called X-COM when it likely has nothing to do with the series?
No, it doesn't look promising. It looks like an FPS developer bastardizing one of the best tactical game series of all time. The game they are making is likely to have only token amounts of tactical or strategic choices, annd will likely be Bioshock reskinned.
Bioshock games were OK-ish as far as gameplay went and were only made noteworthy by their story and setting. The actual games were nothing special. Why is this relevant? Because I doubt 2K has the competence to make a tactical FPS game without it sucking. It likely CAN be done, but not by them.
The end result will either be:
1. A plain FPS.
2. A plain FPS with shallow attempts at tactics.
3. A shitty tactical FPS.
I understand that FPS games are the current dominant genre, but does everything have to be turned into an FPS?
Also, if they just wanted to do a game about aliens, why not make their own IP? Is there a single reason beyond cashing in on nostalgia that this game has to be called X-COM when it likely has nothing to do with the series?
I'm not convinced that an FPS game will suit X-Com.
When my plan comes to fruition and I am installed as Beloved Leader Of the World, there will be a new X-Com game that is similar to Valkyria Chronicles.
When my plan comes to fruition and I am installed as Beloved Leader Of the World, there will be a new X-Com game that is similar to Valkyria Chronicles.
I've been waiting for somebody to do an Xcom sequel for years, because in case you hadn't noticed TBS games are the new adventure games: With one or two exceptions this once thriving genre is now completely non-existent.
So feth you 2K.
So feth you 2K.
This is odd news. On one hand, it's good to hear Xcom will be coming back. On the other hand, as an FPS?
I would have much preferred it as a strategy game or perhaps as a 3rd person team based strategy oriented shooter.
I would have much preferred it as a strategy game or perhaps as a 3rd person team based strategy oriented shooter.
I didn't really like what they did with Bioshock either - its one of the few 'great games' I've never bothered completing, or even getting too far along it.swytchblayd said:
But seriously, Fallout 3 was fine and good.
As for this... I'm cautious - I don't know how they'll make an FPS out of a squad based management/tactics game. And given how much fail was in X-Com Enforcer, I'm not certain at all they can ever combine.
Other people have already covered the Fallout 3 thing so I'll just echo those comments: Despite the caterwauling from the offended minority who refuse to let go of 1997, Fallout 3 rocked the house. I'd be absolutely thrilled if XCom is that good.
Well I saw this coming from a mile away, just seemed to be the likely outcome of whatever their "secret unannounced shooter" was. As to people doubting if this can be done, an X-Com shooter was in the works back in the heydey of the series (called X-Com Alliance), so it's not an entirely unheard of concept.
Only thing I didn't see coming was I thought 2K Boston would be doing this.
Only thing I didn't see coming was I thought 2K Boston would be doing this.
Exactly. The only thing Enforcer had in common with the original games, was that ihad some kind of aliens in them, and that was it. And now that someone has finally decided to make another x-com game, it will be a shooter.teh_gunslinger said:
Honestly, i often thougt about setting a X-com in a firstperson shooter kind of game, were you play from the perspective of one of your troops on the same kind of missions as in the original games, and when he/she dies, you gain control of another one instead. But this honestly looks like it's going to be a time typical generic shooter, where the main character is earths only hope og salvation, or something.
Why are they doing this...? Can't we just have a straight up remake? The last time [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/xcomenforcer?q=x-com%20enforcer] they tried making an FPS in the X-COM universe, it didn't go so well...
Yeah I guess it didn't go so well seeing as how Enforcer was a third-person action game. Whoops.Yog Sothoth said:
Details, details... third-person, first-person - makes very little difference in my view. You still run around shooting things. The only difference is whether or not you can see your own ass while you're doing it.AceDiamond said:
The game you describe is spot on the kind of game I want if it absolutely has to be a FPS game. And it also reminds of all the fun I had with Space Hulk 1 and 2 on the Amiga and later PC back when I was young.Scypemonk said:
And I may be way wrong here but I seem to recall that Microprose or whoever it was attempted to do something along those lines years ago. I think the proposed title was Alliance. That kinda went nowhere.
Repent! The End is extremely fucking nigh!
First they ruin Command & Conquer, then Fallout, now they ruin X-Com; great job gaming industry, don't stop raping my favorite childhood franchises.
First they ruin Command & Conquer, then Fallout, now they ruin X-Com; great job gaming industry, don't stop raping my favorite childhood franchises.
I guess a modern turn-based tactics game would have been too much to ask for. Whole genres have died and I want them back.
Also for some reason without the hyphen I keep reading the new name as XCorn. I really need new glasses.
Also for some reason without the hyphen I keep reading the new name as XCorn. I really need new glasses.