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crimson5pheonix

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Usually I'm pretty skeptical of the idea that someone is employing a motte and bailey because that also describes just having a very precise view that others read something else into, but this is motte and bailey. Come on. You think it's dangerously close to child porn, but also you aren't saying that the government should crack down? Those two premises juxtaposed kind of seem worse than what you're being accused of in this topic, which is just being inconsistent about free speech.
Houseman confirmed for decriminalizing CP?
 

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Prove it.
Quote me.
Quote me advocating for, or implying that the government should, crack down or "cancel" Cuties.
Quote me saying or implying should be banned.

Or

Apologize for your false accusation.

Do one or the other.
Already did the first one


So you're saying you like a film about young teens dancing sexually?
nice moral panic. Go back to the 90s. See Jack Thompson

Edit: You’re opinion is your assumption. That’s fine. Have your opinion.

Understand that it’s an assumption
 
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Just to be clear. You are fine going after CP. You’re even fine making up talking points and turning something not CP into CP.

But you also can’t be pro-Free Speech without being called out
 
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Just to be clear. You are fine going after CP. You’re even fine making up talking points and turning something not CP into CP.

But you also can’t be pro-Free Speech without being called out
Just to be clear, you can't quote me saying or doing any of the things you are accusing me of saying.

And that is the last I'll say on the matter.
 

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Quote me saying that.
Trunkage quoted you saying that earlier in the thread in this post:

So what does it mean to ‘cross the line’?
In which you are quoted as having posted:

"Speaking about Cuties, and not MetalHead's hypothetical...

Morally, yes, they have all failed in my opinion. The degeneracy has spread throughout all of them.
Is it JUST AS BAD as real CP? No, of course not.
Does it toe the line? I think it comes dangerously close."
 
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The Escapist is NOT liable for content that *users* post on the site.
I'm not disagreeing with this, but I like to note that while they don't have to act responsible for the things we post, they do, and it's appreciated.
 

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I'm not disagreeing with this, but I like to note that while they don't have to act responsible for the things we post, they do, and it's appreciated.
Generally agree. I don’t know how you legislate ‘act responsibly’’ when we can’t even do that for dumping waste into rivers
 

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Trunkage quoted you saying that earlier in the thread in this post:



In which you are quoted as having posted:

"Speaking about Cuties, and not MetalHead's hypothetical...

Morally, yes, they have all failed in my opinion. The degeneracy has spread throughout all of them.
Is it JUST AS BAD as real CP? No, of course not.
Does it toe the line? I think it comes dangerously close."
But apparently I’m the liar. Does that mean I should be asking for the apology?

Don’t worry, I’m not offended someone insulted me. Don’t worry about it. I forgive you
 

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Just to be clear. You are fine going after CP. You’re even fine making up talking points and turning something not CP into CP.

But you also can’t be pro-Free Speech without being called out
Actually it will be for the courts to decide in this case because even artistic drawings under US law can be classed as CP.
 

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nice moral panic. Go back to the 90s. See Jack Thompson

Edit: You’re opinion is your assumption. That’s fine. Have your opinion.

Understand that it’s an assumption
No it's a description of the film.

They are young teens.

Twerking is sexualised dancing by definition.

Sorry but as much as I'm for sex and violence in media featuring consenting adults I really do question those who wouldn't want some lines drawn when it comes to sex and young teens or children acting in the films.
 

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No it's a description of the film.

They are young teens.

Twerking is sexualised dancing by definition.

Sorry but as much as I'm for sex and violence in media featuring consenting adults I really do question those who wouldn't want some lines drawn when it comes to sex and young teens or children acting in the films.
Hey remember when we were talking about algorithms and them not being a very good way to assess what’s acceptable speech. You’re being the algorithm

Like, this movie might be good as an educational tool for teens discussing the traps of teenage hood. It might even be good for male teenagers to see the female perspective. And I’m not against this being limited to certain audiences.

But Limiting it to certain audiences is not Free Speech
 

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Hey remember when we were talking about algorithms and them not being a very good way to assess what’s acceptable speech. You’re being the algorithm

Like, this movie might be good as an educational tool for teens discussing the traps of teenage hood. It might even be good for male teenagers to see the female perspective. And I’m not against this being limited to certain audiences.

But Limiting it to certain audiences is not Free Speech
Well that is where you'd be wrong under US law as age restrictions on games in the USA aren't legally enforceable as was seen when Hillary tried to make said ratings legally enforceable in the past and it was shot down under the first amendment by the courts
 

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Well that is where you'd be wrong under US law as age restrictions on games in the USA aren't legally enforceable as was seen when Hillary tried to make said ratings legally enforceable in the past and it was shot down under the first amendment by the courts
Great point, thanks for agreeing with me