New Zealand Politician Joins in Medal of Honor Outrage
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There's a huge difference between Nazi soldiers and the Taliban.
Nazi soldiers, for one, weren't all in down for the whole "kill the jews" thing. Some yes, some no. They were given orders and had to carry them out. Now, this could be said for some Taliban members, but remember that the Taliban (and all islamic terrorists) are religious fanatics, and basically, if someone doesn't believe that the Taliban is right, they won't join them. Nazi soldiers had to fight because they were told to (minus the doctors and scientists of the concentration camps), while the Taliban fights because they want to.
Also, the Nazi's weren't keen on killing themselves in crowded shopping centers in their home country.
Nazi soldiers, for one, weren't all in down for the whole "kill the jews" thing. Some yes, some no. They were given orders and had to carry them out. Now, this could be said for some Taliban members, but remember that the Taliban (and all islamic terrorists) are religious fanatics, and basically, if someone doesn't believe that the Taliban is right, they won't join them. Nazi soldiers had to fight because they were told to (minus the doctors and scientists of the concentration camps), while the Taliban fights because they want to.
Also, the Nazi's weren't keen on killing themselves in crowded shopping centers in their home country.
And what do the Taliban have to say?
Im sure they not being whiny pussies
Besides, ban a game for a reason that only really applies to angry politicians then people get mad. The game is different (if only by minor difference) so ban it for changing clothes and language for a model?
I disagree =P
Im sure they not being whiny pussies
Besides, ban a game for a reason that only really applies to angry politicians then people get mad. The game is different (if only by minor difference) so ban it for changing clothes and language for a model?
I disagree =P
You deserve a cookie for saving me the time that I would of taken to write that out.McNinja said:
Ahhh! New Zealand!!! Noooo. Why!!?!
If we had one hope that gaming could live in peace with everybody, it was New Zealand. but after this, they are against some part of gaming. Might as well pack up the WCC and go home.
If we had one hope that gaming could live in peace with everybody, it was New Zealand. but after this, they are against some part of gaming. Might as well pack up the WCC and go home.
actually, yes.ShadowsofHope said:
I was quite suprised at the uproar here over Lt. O'donnell's death, everyone calling for the troops to come home. there does seem to be habit of making a big deal out of everything here, maybe because nothing really happens. besides, it's probably going to have an NZ release date sometime after HL3
Wait but it's ok to play as a Nazi?
Why haven't these questions come up before when within the multitude of WWIIFPSFFADM modes in the universe there is nobody out there who, when randomly placed on team Red, says "I'm ideologically opposed to being represented within this game by the german national socialist party from 1945".
Because nobody cares is the short answer, the only people who ever care about this stuff are people who
1. Don't play games (They might own a Wii but Mario Kart hardly counts does it)
2. Get a little closer to job security at the next election by being the one driving the bandwagon when the press start calling.
Why haven't these questions come up before when within the multitude of WWIIFPSFFADM modes in the universe there is nobody out there who, when randomly placed on team Red, says "I'm ideologically opposed to being represented within this game by the german national socialist party from 1945".
Because nobody cares is the short answer, the only people who ever care about this stuff are people who
1. Don't play games (They might own a Wii but Mario Kart hardly counts does it)
2. Get a little closer to job security at the next election by being the one driving the bandwagon when the press start calling.
I'm offended that politicians are offended by this - or at least pretending to be offended for the sake of a bandwagon. Why are people so scared of a video game being remotely current or relevant? At what point is it no longer "too soon" to call the terrorist team by a specific name?
Many should agree there will always be better and more important things for politicians and leaders to worry about than video games. They should try to focus efforts on things that happen in real life and then they can worry about making the entire gaming world unoffensive and tame and unplayable. Give the wrong people ground and keep doing so and MOH would become just be a virtual pie baking contest or something. What's next, try to ban people from THINKING about the Taliban perspective in any way? In any case, controversy will just make the game more popular so the whole thing is impotent counterproductive campaigning.
Many should agree there will always be better and more important things for politicians and leaders to worry about than video games. They should try to focus efforts on things that happen in real life and then they can worry about making the entire gaming world unoffensive and tame and unplayable. Give the wrong people ground and keep doing so and MOH would become just be a virtual pie baking contest or something. What's next, try to ban people from THINKING about the Taliban perspective in any way? In any case, controversy will just make the game more popular so the whole thing is impotent counterproductive campaigning.
It seems to me like the main reason that playing as Taliban is controversial and playing as Nazis isn't, is this: WW2 is in the past, while the Afghan conflict is contemporary(well, yes, duh). The big-bad politicians think it's disrespectful to the soldiers.
But then you'd think that playing as nazis would be disrespecful to those who fought in WW2, right?
Hell no, that's in the past, not that many that cares enough to take offense.
I guess it's sort of obvious, but lots of people here are complaining how this isn't OK but playing as a Nazi is. As why most of the other Modern warfare-games slipped by unnoticed, maybe it's because this one actually blatantly says "Hi, we're the Taliban! Will you come and play?".
But yeah, it's all a game, aside from being interactable(although that might be why this is a problem, too), it's just like any other form of medium.
But then you'd think that playing as nazis would be disrespecful to those who fought in WW2, right?
Hell no, that's in the past, not that many that cares enough to take offense.
I guess it's sort of obvious, but lots of people here are complaining how this isn't OK but playing as a Nazi is. As why most of the other Modern warfare-games slipped by unnoticed, maybe it's because this one actually blatantly says "Hi, we're the Taliban! Will you come and play?".
But yeah, it's all a game, aside from being interactable(although that might be why this is a problem, too), it's just like any other form of medium.
Australia is way way worse than New Zealand when its comes to censoring games(and small breasts ROFL), blame their politicians most new Zealanders/Aussies generally aren't that uptight.thenumberthirteen said:
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/28/australian-censor-bo.html
EVERY army has commited some kind of atrocities.
The US nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the germans killed so much innocent people, .......
If these politicians took out their heads from their asses and ACTUALLY PLAY the game then they can complain. I always pisses me off when some people who never played a game in their life start talking shit and how bad it is. It's like you start to order some doctors how they're going to operate a person WITHOUT even studying medicine
The US nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the germans killed so much innocent people, .......
If these politicians took out their heads from their asses and ACTUALLY PLAY the game then they can complain. I always pisses me off when some people who never played a game in their life start talking shit and how bad it is. It's like you start to order some doctors how they're going to operate a person WITHOUT even studying medicine
Yeah sorry but in terms of evil, effectiveness, power and a whole host of things, the taliban are a minute speck of dust compared to the Nazis, Stalin, Mao, Japanese in WW2, anyone in the 1990's Bosnian war...the list goes on. The taliban are small fry in terms of everything and anything. It's only because the Coalition has been fighting with two hands behinds it's back and ran by politicians who love red tape that they still even exist
Some of these politicians needs to grow a pair, I mean they are supposed to be the ones with big enough balls and intelligence to lead our countries.....
Some of these politicians needs to grow a pair, I mean they are supposed to be the ones with big enough balls and intelligence to lead our countries.....