Newell: Valve to Replace Single-Player With "Single-Player Plus"

Awexsome

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I'm cool with dev's using stuff like facebook to organize something like an advertisement campaign. That's a good avenue for that.

But call me skeptical about integrating stuff with facebook into the retail game itself... but that's just speculation. Maybe we're all getting worried over nothing and Valve has some awesome system in mind that walks all over facebook.
 

samsonguy920

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I like this. One thing I love about Left4Dead is the component where you can go in by yourself, and over time if friends want to join they can just hop in and lend a hand in dealing with pesky tanks. Of course stopping to send a chat is a bit hairy, but that can illustrate the fun of texting while a jockey is humping your face.
 

rembrandtqeinstein

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"Every gamer is instant messaging, every gamer has a Facebook account."

Wrong. So wrong.

But gabe is looking at the pile of money zynga is getting for smearing shit on the screen and he says "I gotta get me some of that."

Looks like its back to nethack for me.
 

gideonkain

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Who are all these people saying "99% of the time I'm talking to my friends online anyway"

Christ, that would annoy the crap out of me - I play an MMO and once and awhile a DM but I really do not want a fully immersive social network when I got to play "my games"
 

Twilight_guy

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OMFG, Valve is making Half-Life integrated with facebook. I don't have a facebook and thus that feature doesn't affect me but its still RUINED FOREVER!!!!!!!one!!!!!!!eleven!!!!!

I think people need to calm down. Vavle makes one statement about moving away from isolated gaming and maybe integrated social network stuff for people who have it and a huge fire of hate spews up. If you really think that's so horrible... why are you here? The Escapist has integration with Facebook too so obviously it was RUINED FOREVER already.
 

Lucane

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Funny I'm a gamer but I don't have a Facebook account... maybe it meant for developers to include it for a grow market of Facebook users.

The Hungry Samurai said:
Just no more stupid achievements/trophies like Professor Portal again please.Thanks to the PSN outage I'm NEVER going to find a person who hasnt played portal co-op to play with me.
Once it's back up you can either have an existing friend who has it create a new account(or use an existing alternate) to play with for 5 minutes or have them clear their own file and do it and then clear your own afterwards(or in reverse order.)
 

RJ Dalton

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I have a facebook account, but I haven't logged onto it in almost a year and don't even remember my password anymore. Does that still count as having a facebook page?
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Gabe Newell: entertainment is inherently increased in value by having it be social, by letting you play with your friends and recognizing that you're connected with other people.
No.

I'm sorry, but this is completely wrong. Ironic that this should come up on a site called The Escapist, really; surely the point of escapism is that you want to, well, escape? To leave behind the real world and engage in a fictional one, without any of the ties that remind you of your day-to-day life? Adding a social component to a game when you're trying to lose yourself in that game's world is just going to remind you that you're playing a game, and drag you back to grim, depressing reality.

Would a novel be greatly improved by having someone sit over your shoulder and talk while you read it? No. Would film be improved by natter? Imagine how annoyed you'd get if you were trying to watch Inception in the cinema, and people insisted on talking throughout it. Single player games, likewise, will not be improved by adding a "social" component. The entire point of a single player game is that you don't want to be social.
 

Popido

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Damn you Facebook!!

Because of you, the whole internet is being immigrated by dumb shits! I know you're behind it! Somehow.
 

Epic Fail 1977

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Tom Goldman said:
I'm glad we have that all cleared up then.
LOL at what I assume to be sarcasm.
I'd love to know exactly wtf Gabe is talking about, but I'm not going to sweat it. I like my games single player. Not single player "plus", not single player "enhanced" by morons typing shit on a chat channel that I can't get out of my face. SINGLE. PLAYER. But until Gabe figures out what the hell it is he's trying to say, I'm not going to worry, cos he may just mean a bunch of optional features that can be turned off.
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
...Uh.

Nearly EVERYBODY in this thread is angry.

Why?
I've been reminded of how tragically alone I am in the world by Gabe Newell.

ADSKL;GJ;KDFGAB that guy, seriously.

Ot: I honestly like the sound of this idea and have long since made peace with the fact that the HL2:EP3 is a lie.

These forum posters need to calm down before they burst an e-blood vessel or something.
 

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I'm not really a fan of massive social integration with all the games I play. Steam already does it fairly well if you're looking for that. I don't need it to post "I played Shogun 2: Total War for 200 hours last week" on to my facebook as well.

Unless games are designed with the intent to allow a friend to hop in mid-way, as in it is essentially a single player game but you can add in some friends/help if you need/want, (Demon's Souls) I'm not particularly interested.
 

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Ophiuchus said:
Gabe Newell clears up the situation by saying: "What we're trying to talk about is the fact that, not that we're not doing single-player games ... It's more that we think we have to work harder in the future, that entertainment is inherently increased in value by having it be social, by letting you play with your friends and recognizing that you're connected with other people. That's the thing we're trying to say."
No. No it isn't. At all.

Can someone please explain this thinking? What's wrong with a fully single-player experience?
He's not saying its wrong, he's saying its better.

Which plenty of people can agree with. Hell, me and my friends can sit down and play Fallout 3, a massively single player game, and enjoy it far more than if we were on our own.
 

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"every gamer has a Facebook account"
I take offence on this... Facebook is crap anyway why would I want to use it? ...
 

John Funk

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So, pretty much what we saw with StarCraft 2? A more thoroughly integrated Steam?

I'm actually fine with this. And for all the whining about OH NOES FACEBOOK, speaking of StarCraft 2, it actually worked great in that game as an optional feature to find real-life friends playing the game. It should never be mandatory, but what's wrong with giving players options?
 

mjc0961

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every gamer has a Facebook account

Go ahead. Find my Facebook page and link it here. I dare you. Just bring some snacks because you're going to be looking for a long ass time. Eventually you'll realize that it doesn't exist because I don't have one.

Anyway, add all the "Single player plus" you want, as long as I can just ignore it and play my games like I normally do.