Newton Residents Vote to Tear Down Sandy Hook Elementary, Rebuild for $50 Million
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I don't mind dying, dying for a cause? Even better!Ryotknife said:You are going to get your ass shot, evil smurf. But hey, at least if you are assassinated that puts you in a very exclusive presidential club and you will be famousEvil Smurf said:
Unless the old buildings actually sucked, either from severe wear and tear of age or really poorly designed in general, this is dumb.
I'm more unnerved by guns than by Generalized Anxiety Disorder, whatever that is, to be honest. Anxiety I can deal with.chiggerwood said:
What I find immature is blaming an inanimate object for murders: cars kill more people a year than guns do and there is no talk of banning those.
The underlying problem is in the lack of mental health treatment for people with no insurance: this will not be a problem after January as all insurance will be forced to cover mental health treatments and nearly everyone will have insurance.
The underlying problem is in the lack of mental health treatment for people with no insurance: this will not be a problem after January as all insurance will be forced to cover mental health treatments and nearly everyone will have insurance.
It's a waste of money but at the same time, a whole class of little kids were slaughtered.
The sentimental side of me agrees with taring it down and building a new one.
I don't see any of you calling for a ban on Pressure Cookers.
Ever see Jurassic Park? LIFE FINDS A WAY.
The sentimental side of me agrees with taring it down and building a new one.
Boston Marathon Bombing happened with Pressure cookers.Johnny Novgorod said:
I don't see any of you calling for a ban on Pressure Cookers.
Ever see Jurassic Park? LIFE FINDS A WAY.
I graduated from Columbine. They tore down the library (where most of the dying happened) and built a new one, but they didn't raze the school. Many of my teachers were there that day, still teaching in the school despite what happened. And they weren't crazy or constantly breaking down.
You know why? Because the thought was that if they did, the shooters would win. And you know what? They would get what they had wanted. I don't see how this is any different.
You know why? Because the thought was that if they did, the shooters would win. And you know what? They would get what they had wanted. I don't see how this is any different.
such a dumb decision. first of all, building it in the same spot doesnt make any sense. youd think they would choose a new location.
also, in several years, every kid who went to that school will all have moved on to middle school. i think they should just convert that first grade classroom into a storage room or something, that way no kid will ever need to go in there.
its bad enough that mass murderers are made famous by the media, so it only gives them more power if we start spending millions of dollars in tax payer money in reaction to what theyve done.
also, in several years, every kid who went to that school will all have moved on to middle school. i think they should just convert that first grade classroom into a storage room or something, that way no kid will ever need to go in there.
its bad enough that mass murderers are made famous by the media, so it only gives them more power if we start spending millions of dollars in tax payer money in reaction to what theyve done.
Well aren't you quite the satirist. No man, guns cause more deaths than fucking pressure cookers, for about 500 years now. That's kind of what they're built for. Why don't we tackle murder tools first before moving to kitchen appliances, yes? If this is about people's rights to be bored and shoot stuff, I'm sure they can get toy guns.SaneAmongInsane said:
They shouldn't rebuild on the same spot as it will offend the ghosts of the dead.... Hey it doesn't sound any more crazy that what they are doing.
Oh goodie, people arguing about gun laws again. I wonder if this won't end like every other gun related subject...
Guns are only half the problem; the country's mental health care is awful. The system is more like a revolving door than actual help.
To answer OP, no, tearing down the school will not get rid of the memories of the massacre; it's called therapy and moving on. Building a new school with an exorbitant price tag is wasteful and could be partially used to renovate the old school and then used on any other projects that need the money.
Guns are only half the problem; the country's mental health care is awful. The system is more like a revolving door than actual help.
To answer OP, no, tearing down the school will not get rid of the memories of the massacre; it's called therapy and moving on. Building a new school with an exorbitant price tag is wasteful and could be partially used to renovate the old school and then used on any other projects that need the money.
No, Erin, not bitching, arguing. Here's another part of the problem: dismissiveness.schrodinger said:
If you're saying I'm being dismissive about gun control issues, i'm not. I know how gun control arguments go down on this forum, and they often get nasty. I'm merely state what can eventually happen, nothing more and nothing less.Johnny Novgorod said:
I can't change anything about about guns, or the people who handle them. This type of issue is a long and slippery road that neither side is willing to budge. I advocate for strict gun safety and better mental health care, and that's as far as I am willing to get into this matter.
edit: I will retract 'bitching' from my op.
I live in CT, mere miles away from Newton. I didn't realize people were so against the idea of rebuilding a school, that now students are traumatized to go back to it. I mean, if my sister or my friend was shot at my school I would never go back to school there, it would be too painful. It's expensive yes, but I think it's probably the only way some of those kids would ever set foot in there again. I think it's part of the healing process. After something that crazy happens, I really can't see kids going back into that building, nor seeing it renovated for future use.
Shame that people are calling it irrational. Wasteful, perhaps, but not irrational or crazy. It wasn't like congress (which is clearly made of crazies, though that's another story entirely) made the decision, the residents of the town voted for it.
Shame that people are calling it irrational. Wasteful, perhaps, but not irrational or crazy. It wasn't like congress (which is clearly made of crazies, though that's another story entirely) made the decision, the residents of the town voted for it.
That's why everybody forgot about Columbine, right?soren7550 said:
I don't think anybody's trying to change anything. I think it's about the children, who are traumatized from exposed to a horrific incident. Nobody wants to come back to the classroom and think "that's where my sister was shot".
No amount of remodeling is going to make anybody want to go back into that school. And it's expensive, yes. I'm sure there's been countless donations and charity drives that are going to help balance the expenses out a bit.
Johnny Novgorod said:
Yeah, I...think you should read my post again. I wasn't being defensive about my "right to own guns". I support gun control, and I am not remotely defensive about my right to own a gun. If the 2nd Amendment was revoked tomorrow, I wouldn't give a shit.
No, what I was being defensive about was you and the other guy deciding that, simply because I'm from America, I MUST believe that guns are my "God-Given right as a 'MURICAN!" I don't like it when people assume things about me that aren't true. So yes, I got defensive.
Look, the primary message you should be taking away is this:
I AM AMERICAN AND I SUPPORT GUN CONTROL. FURTHERMORE, I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES.[footnote]Caps lock for emphasis, not to denote any sort of emotion.[/footnote]
I can't make it any clearer then that. Look, as far as guns go, I'm actually trying to agree with you. Please try and understand that.