Newtown Boy Campaigns Against Violent Games
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My thoughts exactly, how do we know this isn't just his parents speaking though him and using this as a platform to strike down Gaming.RoonMian said:
I understand Black ops is a easy target, but when the NRA say things like having heavily armed guards at schools....
I'm willing to temporarily forgive Max's stupidity on account of his tender young age and the recent tragedy.
But he is still stupid.
But he is still stupid.
Get your facts straight. Porn movies can get legally banned under obscenity laws [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_obscenity_law], that officially declares that they "lack artistic value", and video games were officially declared art [http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-27/tech/supreme.court.video.game.art_1_sale-of-violent-video-video-games-hansel-and-gretel?_s=PM:TECH] by the US Supreme court, deserving the exact same protection as movies or literature.Capitano Segnaposto said:
Seriously, this whole knee-jerk reaction from gamers crying "BUT MOOOOOVIIEEES!" is a huge double standard. ALL sorts of violent media are under attack all the time, even music and literature. About movies, there are all sorts of censorship and age-restriction laws similar to games.
And he specifically talking about "violent video games", implicitly putting them in a different category from Journey.
Seriously, right now, Angry Birds is probably one of the most popular things on the whole planet. EVERYONE is a gamer. They KNOW that not every game is CoD, that's why they are adresing violet games like CoD specifically. We can stop dismissing how all the squares just don't get what gaming is all about.
While I do believe this is a misguided attempt to fix several problems this country already has, and that it fail miserably, I admire the boy's determination. And hey, it might remove a few of the...simpler...members of the gaming community from said community, which would benefit everyone.
I understand what the kid wants (and am kinda glad he stopped Call of Duty, though why a 12-year old plays that kind of game is beyond me)... but at the same time, it's really not going to help when that's not always the case...
And since this is somewhat related:
(Warning: cynicism and swearing from a cartoon squirrel)
And since this is somewhat related:
(Warning: cynicism and swearing from a cartoon squirrel)
Instead of imploring people to throw away their violent games, he should focus on creating discussion and debate. He hasn't even given a reason to do it, he's just taking advantage of this tragedy to try and push his own ideals onto others.
His tragedy is unfortunate but he's really missing the target here, trying to blame whoever he can.
His tragedy is unfortunate but he's really missing the target here, trying to blame whoever he can.
Gamers: Supporting child abuse since 2012.Capitano Segnaposto said:
It's just a kid! He is shocked and confused from the shooting! Oh! It's not even a normal kid!
Let me just sink this in: You just wished physical harm, and said you'd take satisfaction on seeing it, of somebody who was affected by the shooting. Think about what you're saying!
Hell, you shouldn't wish harm on anybody for something such as this! He's trying to do something good FFS!
God dammit people! Am I the only one here who sees something wrong in what we're doing here!?
This isn't about a child striking out against video games as the source of problems.
This is a child struck by a great tragedy who is now having to come to terms with things that are hard for anybody of any age to handle.
As a part of his tragedy he has found himself unable to find enjoyment from things which remind him of the tragedy he endured.
He should not be criticized as attacking games. That's not what he's doing. Not really. It may be what people who are taking advantage of the presence of a child with a convenient point of view are doing, but all the child really is trying to do is find ways to mourn and cope with the senseless loss that has occurred.
He is not stopping playing Call of Duty because he thinks it will drive him to real murder. He is no longer playing Call of Duty because it now reminds him to intimately of a painful experience he has no desire to relive in any capacity.
This is a child struck by a great tragedy who is now having to come to terms with things that are hard for anybody of any age to handle.
As a part of his tragedy he has found himself unable to find enjoyment from things which remind him of the tragedy he endured.
He should not be criticized as attacking games. That's not what he's doing. Not really. It may be what people who are taking advantage of the presence of a child with a convenient point of view are doing, but all the child really is trying to do is find ways to mourn and cope with the senseless loss that has occurred.
He is not stopping playing Call of Duty because he thinks it will drive him to real murder. He is no longer playing Call of Duty because it now reminds him to intimately of a painful experience he has no desire to relive in any capacity.
Kinda funny so I see this ending in a failure also, even if the kids want to do it,
Kids under the age of 17 need a parent or someone to buy the game, and then the fact Kids don't have any money so it'd be them tossing out their parents money. 60 dollars a game even if it is a point, no one is gonna be happy to toss that out.
Kids under the age of 17 need a parent or someone to buy the game, and then the fact Kids don't have any money so it'd be them tossing out their parents money. 60 dollars a game even if it is a point, no one is gonna be happy to toss that out.
ANImaniac89 said:
Hold on, I gotta read the article again:sethisjimmy said:
Now I don't know this kid but he probably has a pretty damn good reason to believe video games cause violence.
Also, what do you mean this isn't the to talk about your morals/ideals?
When something terrible like this happens, I think it's not just good but the best time to talk about them: This is the time when people are the most excited to talk about them. Now that something that shook the entire country happened.
People want to know why this happened, how can we stop it from happening again, and we're anxious to find answers. The more people discuss this the more perspective we get, and we need to get as much of if as possible.
Maybe people can actually make the damn country better if they just talk about it.
i get the feeling anyone with a brain knowing games weren't the cause of the shooting and want games are going to occasionally slip by this dumpster if it's not watched or in some way locked is going to have free game's if undamaged and make people's "trash" the their treasure. I mean seriously if i saw someone throw away a xbox 360 version or well any copy of Xcom EU or farcry 3 id flip id just probably just ask for it. Though if not may slightly be tempted to go through that trash but probably not since i may be arrested i think or fined the amount the game would actually cost.
That's exactly what I said. The problem is he isn't looking for discussion, he's just asking people to do what he thinks should be done without question. I think this is a perfect opportunity to discuss values, but when people make extremist assumptions like this kid, they tend to block out discussion and revert to pointless blame.ThisGuyLikesNoTacos said:
Instead of advising people to throw away their games, he could campaign to open a discussion with various game developers on why they include violence in their games, or at least offer an explanation as to why he thinks violent video games are bad, anything but make a fairly baseless assumption that violent video games have some sort of correlation with real life violence.
I want to comment negatively on this kid's campaign but I'm too distracted at the fact that he plays cod at the age of 12. I can't take him seriously if he plays mature games at his age and I don't think he should be the one to make this campaign.
But on the off chance that this stops a decent number of under-aged gamers from playing mature titles, then props to the kid!
But on the off chance that this stops a decent number of under-aged gamers from playing mature titles, then props to the kid!
You want to know why that is? Because his friend's brother was shot to death. Cut him some slack. You have no idea what he is going through.sethisjimmy said: