I understand and respect his standpoint. After something like that, it would be difficult to enjoy a shpoting game. His logic for his campaigning against shooters on principal is wrong,make a bin for guns, without which massacres cant happen
Newtown Boy Campaigns Against Violent Games
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See, this is where I have a problem. How much do you want to bet they bought the game for him, sight unseen, and allowed him to play whenever he wanted? My (understandably limited) experience with the recent CoD multiplayer had me turning off the mic to mute kids who were swearing and hacking. If online accounts are any indication, every multiplayer lobby is filled with 10-12 year olds being 'tryhard' players who don't understand what they're doing and just play it because it looks cool.
Instead of telling people to throw out violent video games, he should have been advocating education programs/advertising campaigns to teach parents about the potential pitfalls of giving violent games to impressionable young kids who don't know any better. It shouldn't take a friend passing away to realize there's a larger problem than "violent video games bad, me smart".
Yup lets all happily pad bandages on healthy parts while we leave the real wounds to rot and fester.
This one kid isnt particularly wrong, hes understandably put off by violence in general and not of voting age, but people with similar attitudes will vote for politicians who favour useless placebo solutions, because those are much much easier than adressing the real problems of mental healthcare and gun control not existing to any meaningful degree.
This kind of stuff is the proverbial sticking ones head in the sand. Its not only useless, its destructive.
This one kid isnt particularly wrong, hes understandably put off by violence in general and not of voting age, but people with similar attitudes will vote for politicians who favour useless placebo solutions, because those are much much easier than adressing the real problems of mental healthcare and gun control not existing to any meaningful degree.
This kind of stuff is the proverbial sticking ones head in the sand. Its not only useless, its destructive.
Fucking... HE'S 12. WHY IS HE PLAYING CALL OF DUTY.
Oh, wait guys, it's fine, he has the approval of his parents, they're totally doing a good job.
There is a problem with violent videogames and THIS is it. Violence in media isn't going to go away, so yeah, you can't mollycoddle your kids and keep their delicate little eyes from seeing it forever. But you have a responsibility to make sure that your fucking twelve year old's aren't playing something as violent as Call of Duty, which is easily as violent as any top shelf gritty action film these days.
Kids need to be eased into this stuff, and parents need to have a better understanding of this stuff. I personally don't know if exposure to violent media at a young age will have a negative effect on said child's mental health later in life but jesus, I wouldn't want my hypothetical progeny seeing half the shit that goes on in the games I play.
And no, parenting isn't the only issue here. There's a hell of a lot of issues. But this annoys me so much.
Oh, wait guys, it's fine, he has the approval of his parents, they're totally doing a good job.
There is a problem with violent videogames and THIS is it. Violence in media isn't going to go away, so yeah, you can't mollycoddle your kids and keep their delicate little eyes from seeing it forever. But you have a responsibility to make sure that your fucking twelve year old's aren't playing something as violent as Call of Duty, which is easily as violent as any top shelf gritty action film these days.
Kids need to be eased into this stuff, and parents need to have a better understanding of this stuff. I personally don't know if exposure to violent media at a young age will have a negative effect on said child's mental health later in life but jesus, I wouldn't want my hypothetical progeny seeing half the shit that goes on in the games I play.
And no, parenting isn't the only issue here. There's a hell of a lot of issues. But this annoys me so much.
Once again I see an article that has one massive root of the problem contained within and it conventiently misses it by a mile - parenting. This kid is TWELVE and yet his parents (eventually) allowed him violent video games that are clearly marked "mature" - why are they not panning them?
Also, some people I appreciate have mental issues and that can blur the line between fantasy and reality, which is a scary thought. However, without wishing to bash on people with such issues, why should the vast majority of us for which the line is clear and bright, have to get rid of or stop playing such games because of a tiny minority of people? I'd say that for many of us, these games are catharsis - we get out our agression and stresses with games and movies so we are more relaxed and less likely to go batshit and rampage through a school with a shotgun.
I would also like to make it absolutely clear that I am not ridiculing Max Goldstein in any way, shape or form. Right or wrong, his heart is in the right place at least and if this helps him and others cope with such a traumatic event then all power to him. Whether it works or not he has good intentions and, dare I say it, a good heart and we certainly do need more of that in the world. If it doesn't work, at least Max can say he at least tried to do something rather than many who will do absolutely nothing.
Also, some people I appreciate have mental issues and that can blur the line between fantasy and reality, which is a scary thought. However, without wishing to bash on people with such issues, why should the vast majority of us for which the line is clear and bright, have to get rid of or stop playing such games because of a tiny minority of people? I'd say that for many of us, these games are catharsis - we get out our agression and stresses with games and movies so we are more relaxed and less likely to go batshit and rampage through a school with a shotgun.
I would also like to make it absolutely clear that I am not ridiculing Max Goldstein in any way, shape or form. Right or wrong, his heart is in the right place at least and if this helps him and others cope with such a traumatic event then all power to him. Whether it works or not he has good intentions and, dare I say it, a good heart and we certainly do need more of that in the world. If it doesn't work, at least Max can say he at least tried to do something rather than many who will do absolutely nothing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_High_School_shooting
from wiki
it should be noted that rage is actually a book about a school shooting however that one case simultaneously places blame on internet pornography, gaming, movies and books all of which are things i enjoy in my downtime of not killing ppl (like most do i assume)
from wiki
In early 1999, the parents of three victims represented by Jack Thompson filed a $33 million lawsuit against two Internet pornography sites, several computer game companies and makers and distributors of the 1994 film Natural Born Killers and the 1995 film The Basketball Diaries. They claimed that media violence inspired Carneal and therefore should be held responsible.[10]
The case was dismissed in 2001. The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that it was "simply too far a leap from shooting characters on a video screen to shooting people in a classroom."[11] Both Thompson[12] and 79th United States Attorney General John Ashcroft claimed Carneal's proficient marksmanship was due to practice in violent video games.[13]
Carneal had in his locker at the time a copy of Stephen King's novel Rage (first published in 1977 under the pseudonym Richard Bachman). After this shooting King requested his publisher to allow it to go out of print, fearing that it might inspire similar tragedies. Rage for a time continued to be available in the United Kingdom in The Bachman Books collection, although the collection now no longer contains Rage.[14] King's other Bachman novels are available in the US in separate volumes.
The case was dismissed in 2001. The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that it was "simply too far a leap from shooting characters on a video screen to shooting people in a classroom."[11] Both Thompson[12] and 79th United States Attorney General John Ashcroft claimed Carneal's proficient marksmanship was due to practice in violent video games.[13]
Carneal had in his locker at the time a copy of Stephen King's novel Rage (first published in 1977 under the pseudonym Richard Bachman). After this shooting King requested his publisher to allow it to go out of print, fearing that it might inspire similar tragedies. Rage for a time continued to be available in the United Kingdom in The Bachman Books collection, although the collection now no longer contains Rage.[14] King's other Bachman novels are available in the US in separate volumes.
it should be noted that rage is actually a book about a school shooting however that one case simultaneously places blame on internet pornography, gaming, movies and books all of which are things i enjoy in my downtime of not killing ppl (like most do i assume)