Next Batman Film Named

[SpcyhknBC]

Why is there no love for Bane? I wonder how many of you Bane haters actually know his story. He breaks Batman's back at one point, if Nolan did that story, it could pretty much end the movies very well and completely prevent the string of Batman films we got in the nineties.

Bane is an intelligent, South-American assassin for hire. You could have the mobsters hire him like they did with the Joker in the previous film. Also, you don't have to include the venom in the story, after all, the Dark Knight never included all the Joker's laughing gases and poisons and such, that may have been due to the inclusion of Scarecrow though. Nolan may not have wanted people to ask why every villain is using poisons. Also, I think Vin Diesel could pull off the role perfectly.

I'm sad that Nolan has said no to Mr. Freeze because he really is one of the most tragic villains in his Rouge Gallery, and Patrick Stewart could do an amazing job. But that is probably one of the more difficult villains to portray in a realistic fashion due to the cold suit and everything else.

I would like to see a female villain, but it would be difficult to pull off. Poison Ivy is tricky because of her whole shtick is poisons and seduction. Controlling plants would probably be completely tossed out. Maybe they could make her an eco-terrorist, though I still don't see how that would work.

Harley Quinn would be awesome, but without the Joker you don't have the subservient personality quirk, which is one of the things that makes her so enjoyable. Catwoman is just a thief, she doesn't have the ability to put the whole city in danger like the Scare Crow and the Joker did.

They could do something with Ra's al Ghul's daughter, Talia, but that might involve some retconning.

 

[Vallds]

Title wise, as mentioned before feels more like a working title.

But it's the Riddler thing for me. I'm a bit biased here, so take this as pinch as salt otherwise, but it is a shame he won't be there. I thought it would have been nice to see him in it, as there have been a few comic stories done where here comes off 'dark' or 'realistic' if you will. That and the man is all about mental over physical for the most part, so you could have had a story based more on mind games or more 'investigative' work (like Seven again).

Still, all I can do is wait for more info to come out.
Heh, and keep hoping the Riddler bit is to throw the fans/speculators.

 

[funksobeefy]

The Riddlers not in it? I dont give a fuck about this movie anymore

 

[Gxas]

Seriously? Well all reason to see this movie has been removed along with the Riddler then. He is the best Batman villain in my mind and without him, I really don't care to see the end of this trilogy anymore. (Honestly, I really was not terribly impressed with Dark Knight, Riddler was my only reason for seeing the third movie.)

 

[That's Funny]

The name is pretty bad, although honestly, after The Dark Knight, I really couldn't think of a better one. Seriously, what could be a better one? Dark Knight 2?

They should've gone with 'The Caped Crusader' I know it sounds campy but it could work.

 

[fundude365]

i know nothing about the batman universe outside of the films so i hope they dont get to silly with anything like mutations or resurrections because the gritty realistic films work really well. Also this character the riddler sounds an awful lot like the joker, but like i said i know nothing about batman.

Riddler is quite similar to the Joker, but is in it more to prove that he is cleverer than anybody else in the world, and does so by setting up horrific crimes with a series of clues left for any detective to find. The clues are fiendishly difficult and whenever Batman works them out it almost always feels arbitrary or forced. Just look at the Adam West Batman movie when he works out just who is plotting against the city. I was left astounded at the sheer lack of Logic employed by the world's 'greatest detective'. He was right of course but it shouldn't have been.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

Discussed characters in the Nolan Batman frachise

Raj al Ghol (Batman Begins)
Johnathon Crane/Scarecrow (Batman Begins)
Zssaz (Batman Begins)
The Joker (The Dark Knight)
Harvey Dent/Two Face (The Dark Knight)
Dr. Victor Fries/Mr. Freeze (eliminated by Nolan interview)
Edward Nigma/The Riddler (Eliminated by Nolan interview)

Patterns in depicted characters:
Fully human (i.e. no "monsters" or super-humans like Killer Croc or Man Bat)
Intelligence
Organized crime

Possible candidates for third movie (common name only given, analysis to follow):
Black Mask
Catwoman
Firefly
Hugo Strange
Hush
Killer Moth
The Mad Hatter
Maxie Zeus
The Penguin
Red Hood
Riddler
The Ventriloquist

 

[Antidrall]

I' guessing mister freeze recruiting Killer croc. now that's a movie I'd want to see.

 

[Yossarian1507]

Poison Ivy played by Scarlett Johansson!

Don't tell me it wouldn't be awesome.

 

[squiggothhunter]

You know who'd be a great villain? The Joker. They should just bring him back

 

[BreakfastMan]

Wow, that is a rather bad name. At least it is not named "The Dark Knight Strikes Again." *shudders* Personally, I would like to see Mr. Freeze. He has always been one of my favs...

 

[Canid117]

I like how he decided to say something along the lines of "Fuck 3D."

As for who the Villain is I am guessing it's going to Be Talia Al Ghul and Catwoman.

 

[Sun Flash]

If it's been named, it should be out soon, yes? Hopefully it'll be out 2012ish.

If we're not getting the Riddler, could we get Harley Quinn? Played by Kristen Bell? That'd be awesome.


Or the one who was a doctor who grew up with Wayne and turned evil. I think he killed his parents (or they just got murdered) Can't remember his name though. Kinda like an evil Batman.

Also, am I right in thinking Nolan's looking for a Catwoman?

 

[FaceFaceFace]

I am dissapoint. Title is stupid. "The Goddamn Batman" would be better. Or more seriously, something with "Batman" in it. "Knightfall" could have been good, although the fall theme was in "The Dark Knight." Like someone said though, "rise" is just a generic word added to the end of titles to make things sound cool. There are just so many options for cooler titles.

More importantly, I wanted the Riddler. I had hoped Nolan would redeem him from what Jim Carey did to him, but nope. Oh well. I just hope its someone not in the original movies. Get some freshness.

 

[Kris015]

Can't wait!

Will the guy who directed Dark Knight be directing this too?

 

[darkman80723]

my money says Penguin will be our villain in the next movie since he operates as a generic mafia lord with kick ass umbrellas and bird related crimes. Who knows, we could end up with an awesome Hitchcock homage by having him as our villain.

I dig it, if we arent getting the Riddler (though who knows, maybe Nolan just wants to screw with our heads) Penguin would be the best choice. He'd fit into the "realistic" Batman, hes not too far fetched if you take away his supernaturalness, and hes really the best choice to give the fans a good movie. Now yeah, Nolan is an awesome director and can suprise even someone like me who is hard to please. But to be honest Im expecting more then just going back to a "mafia only and ninja intervention" like Batman Begins. We will just have to wait and see.

 

[Tiny116]

I want Bane in it.. but not the plant villian thingy, posion ivy is it? Bah!

Poison Ivy was ok.
My guess for the new Villain is Either Cat Woman (I know she was a Villain in the old TV series)
Or more likely The Penguin...He'd be pretty good I think

Other than that I don't know many Batman Villains worth their salt....Seeing that Joker is out of the picture

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

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I have always maintained that there should be no problem representing Batman as he is in the comic books, especially in regards to being Bruce Wayne. If the movie makers read The Long Halloween and Dark Victory then they would have all they ever needed to know about Bruce Wayne being Batman. Conflicted, torn between his duty to the people in his life (Selina Kyle and Dick Grayson) and his mad quest for vengeance. It make him more relatable because he has the balancing aspects trying to make him act more like a rational human, which then gets overtaken later as those around him are revealed as costumes as well.

Is that so hard?

Personally I think Keaton pulled it off magnificently. The scene in batman Returns where he and Selina Kyle are both late for engagements as Batman and Catwoman, and both have to run off in the middle of a date, or when they realise who the other is in Shreck's ball. Those are the scenes we need, Bruce struggling to maintain his front and his sanity. Not Bale's 'Wayne is overacting as people expect him to be.' Bruce Wayne is not a dandy-playboy fop in the comics or other movies, so seeing the character of Wayne being diminished has always been a point of contention for me.

Robin from Teen Titans was a very good character. My interests have always been more to the comic books, and the entire Teen Titans show could almost fit directly into canon as the time when Robin became Nightwing. (Almost) But yeah, Robin, if handled well, is not just a sidekick hanger-on.

I think Grant Morrison proved that the Silver-Age can be included and actually make a story scarier for it having happened, rather than diminishing the effect, but I know Nolan wouldn't try for that. In regards to Superman, I think the most important question has already been asked in the comic books: 'What's so Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way?' They've already written one of the best Superman stories ever as a direct attack on people trying to make him darker and edgier. Superman shouldn't be goofy, but that doesn't mean he must be a bitter anti-social loner? But yeah, this discussion is getting too much into Superman now.

Batman needs a balancing act of villains and support characters who complement him, and where the Joker is the perfect complement of Batman's order vs Chaos, the Riddler is the perfect challenger of wits and intelligence. There are few other villains who match him quite so siginificantly. (Hush being the dark version of Bruce Wayne, Prometheus being the dark version of Batman, and Two-Face being the representation of the duality of the souls.)

 

[Tiny116]

You know who'd be a great villain? The Joker. They should just bring him back

It would be good.
But heres their problem, Name an Actor who could top...or even match Heath Ledgers Portrayal of the character?

 

[kelvingreen]

Bear in mind that just because Nolan says the Riddler won't be in it, doesn't mean that the Riddler won't be in it. Can you think of a character better suited to a double-bluff than the Riddler?