Next Batman Film Named

[ANImaniac89]

I don't care for the name and the movie itself isn't sounding like it will be all that good.
No more Joker which means No Harley Quinn
No Robin or any other sidekicks (which sucks because Kick-Ass showed that a kid sidekick can be done right)
No Freeze or any other "unrealistic" villeins
and now No Riddler Fuck!!!

so what now make a movie with Catwoman as the villein? how the hell would that work?

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Patrick Stewart as Clock King...that is all

 

[T-Bone24]

I'm putting money down on Mr Freeze. I don't know how they'll pull it off, but if they're successful it will be great.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

I know I'm the minority on this one, but I much preferred Batman Begins to the Dark Knight. Batman Begins felt like a comic book movie rather than a movie that happened to have Batman in it rather than some other detective with a gravelly voice. The realistic Batman also eliminates some of the more interesting villains like Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze, and Bane. Maybe they could do Poisen Ivy, The penguin (Anthony Hopkins would be great) or Zasz.

 

[MBurner 93]

The new villain is totally going to be Calendar Man!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_Man

 

[HereForFreeFood]

I hope the bad guy is scarecrow...again. Batman is batman because of fear, so scarecrow would be awesome as a single villain, right? I felt like I was cheated when he was tazed in the face in BB and when he was captured in TDK, so I think a bigger role for him would be great. This is coming from someone who has never read a single batman comic, so I honestly don't know.

 

[Thumper17]

Well, I hope he trips and smashes his head and comes to the realization that Riddler is the best villain he could use. Otherwise I wont be seeing the movie.

 

[APSunder]

I was expecting the movie to be called The Caped Crusader, at least that would've had a double-meaning. As far as I can tell there's no punny meaning to this one other than The Dark Knight/The Dark Night. Also, I really wanna see Penguin as the villain (though Riddler would've been better imo) or The League of Shadows from Batman Begins. Anyone else wanna see Paul Giamati as The Penguin?

 

[GrinningManiac]

MI-STER FREEZE
IF YOU PLEEZE

MI-STER FREEZE
IF YOU PLEEZE
(everybody!)
MI-STER FREEZE
IF YOU PLEEZE
(now, to the tune of We are Sailing...)
We are Waaaaaaaaaiting

We are WAAAAAAAIIITTING

'cross the foooo-rums

'cross the /b/...!

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I didn't think it'd be the Riddler.

Please, please don't make it Mr. Freeze unless you are prepared to do him the right way.

 

[HereForFreeFood]

MI-STER FREEZE
IF YOU PLEEZE

MI-STER FREEZE
IF YOU PLEEZE

according to this - http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/ - I'm afraid not, buddy.

 

[duchaked]

well awesome that there's gonna be another film but...hope that's not the final title

doesn't even make much sense. he didn't fall, and he rose/began already so...eh whatever, Nolan will do his thing and I can't wait to see it!

 

[Tdc2182]

They could have done such a better title. That has no flow to it and is not clever at all. Like Knight Fall, though that would imply that Batman dies. But seriously, give me an hour in a closed room and I can give you a kick ass title.

 

[Tdc2182]

I'm putting money down on Mr Freeze. I don't know how they'll pull it off, but if they're successful it will be great.

Hah, Nolan said earlier in the year that they wouldn't be doing Mr. Freeze.

 

[Tireseas_v1legacy]

I think at some point, possibly quite early on, Nolan forgot that Batman was a COMIC BOOK!

Hence why the Boston crime drama feel to it feels so much better...

In fact, let me put it this way (and thus save me a shitload of time individually going through the list of possible villains): could you put that villain in The Departed? No? Then he probably isn't going to appear...

 

[firemark]

I understand why there's no Riddler. In truth, I feel that the way they wrote the Joker was very close to how I see the Riddler being portrayed and even though the Riddler has a more "puzzling" way of going about his mayhem the overall feeling would be to similar to the Dark Knight. To distance these to villains is important and I hope he does go on to include the Riddler in his series. Hush would be an awesome villain, but it would require too much back story involving the Riddler, etc.

As for the name...I mean come on we already know his title of Dark Knight, why not play off of his other titles: "The World's Greatest Detective" and "Caped Crusader". Maybe something like "The Dark Crusade", he's already been set up as the knight that's at war with the city, this can now be seen as his fight, his crusade, to regain their trust. I mean can't you imagine Alfred saying: "If I may say so, Master Bruce, you musn't let them get to you. You are on a journey, a crusade. Gotham cannot be rebuilt in a day." Or something to that extent. Anyways, these are my thoughts.

 

[EgoDeusEst]

Personally I would've guessed "Dark Knight Returns." But still, I want to see this.

That would have been even more confusing since TDK had a lot of inspiration from this
One of the only comic books I own. And with good reason. S'good.

 

[Delock]

snipped for length and over the top fanboyism

snipped for similar reasons.

I have always maintained that there should be no problem representing Batman as he is in the comic books, especially in regards to being Bruce Wayne. If the movie makers read The Long Halloween and Dark Victory then they would have all they ever needed to know about Bruce Wayne being Batman. Conflicted, torn between his duty to the people in his life (Selina Kyle and Dick Grayson) and his mad quest for vengeance. It make him more relatable because he has the balancing aspects trying to make him act more like a rational human, which then gets overtaken later as those around him are revealed as costumes as well.

Is that so hard?

Personally I think Keaton pulled it off magnificently. The scene in batman Returns where he and Selina Kyle are both late for engagements as Batman and Catwoman, and both have to run off in the middle of a date, or when they realise who the other is in Shreck's ball. Those are the scenes we need, Bruce struggling to maintain his front and his sanity. Not Bale's 'Wayne is overacting as people expect him to be.' Bruce Wayne is not a dandy-playboy fop in the comics or other movies, so seeing the character of Wayne being diminished has always been a point of contention for me.

Robin from Teen Titans was a very good character. My interests have always been more to the comic books, and the entire Teen Titans show could almost fit directly into canon as the time when Robin became Nightwing. (Almost) But yeah, Robin, if handled well, is not just a sidekick hanger-on.

I think Grant Morrison proved that the Silver-Age can be included and actually make a story scarier for it having happened, rather than diminishing the effect, but I know Nolan wouldn't try for that. In regards to Superman, I think the most important question has already been asked in the comic books: 'What's so Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way?' They've already written one of the best Superman stories ever as a direct attack on people trying to make him darker and edgier. Superman shouldn't be goofy, but that doesn't mean he must be a bitter anti-social loner? But yeah, this discussion is getting too much into Superman now.

Batman needs a balancing act of villains and support characters who complement him, and where the Joker is the perfect complement of Batman's order vs Chaos, the Riddler is the perfect challenger of wits and intelligence. There are few other villains who match him quite so siginificantly. (Hush being the dark version of Bruce Wayne, Prometheus being the dark version of Batman, and Two-Face being the representation of the duality of the souls.)

Here's my problem with Bale: he's failing at imitating the TAS approach, ie having Bruce be comfortable because treats it as if it were a vacation. Unfortunately, TAS was grey suit, which mean that Batman himself also regularly smiled and joked (not like blue suit did, but he still chuckled and let off a few snarky comments, normally back to Alfred). Nolan films are Black Suit though, where batman is supposed to be a tortured soul where you ask if he's sane or not. The Bruce is supposed to be a mask and Batman is supposed to be who he's more comfortable being, only slipping into a reversed role when love is involved. This part gets horribly turned upside down in Nolan's version, where Bruce is cofortable until love is inolved, and Batman seemed like the mask.

While Keaton did pull it off spectacularly, his Batman bordered close to Goddamn territory (especially in returns where he seemed a bit less concerned with not killing as I remember him tossing someone into a hole that was either electrocuted/ready to explode for some reason. I really don't remember too well right now). Strangely, at the same time he did really seem violent/fearful enough for the tone.

He doesn't have to be bitter at all, and if you really want it to be darker but not too much, then have him take up the mantle because he made a mistake that caused the Earth to be attacked or something (and no horrible amount of angst when confronted about this. You get the one "Oh God, what have I done?" moment, and then him try to make things right only to learn this is his true calling). See? There's your dark, less comical version of his origin, yet he still can be a light hearted hero (sort of the Spiderman path rather than the Batman one).

Anyways, if there is one problem I have with comic book movies, it's that they kill off the villains. While it is a bit disconcerting to see Two-Face back on the streets in a week, why do you hate the idea of leaving a villain alive (ironically enough, they left the Joker alive only for reality itself to kill him off. RIP Heath Ledger)?

But yeah, there are plenty of his Rogue gallery to go around (and then of course there's the classic comic second version of character after the first dies). While I don't think Hush would fit a redemption story for Batman, given his whole nature as being more of a secretive villain who happens to be the opposite of Bruce Wayne, Prometheus definitely might. After a little bit of thought, I realized the Riddler might actually be better suited to be a villain in a sequel (if there is one after this), as he'd be more the type to require the police trying to figure out the clues alongside Batman rather than lead them to him, as well as someone who would be more focused on taking down a hero than a wanted man (not because he's a villain, but more because it would be much bigger of an achievement). Huge Strange, the Mad Hatter, Firefly, Deadshot, and Zsasz (who actually got a cameo) are all villains that could potentially fit with Nolan's sort of world, but I'd hope for Black Mask, Bane, or Prometheus first.

 

[Potato21]

Personally I would've guessed "Dark Knight Returns." But still, I want to see this.

Followed by The Dark Knight Forever and then The Dark Knight and the Boy Wonder? lol Returns was already the subtitle of a Batman movie.

 

[Death God]

No Riddler and not even a very original name. I'm still hoping for the best.