Next Xbox; If not blu-ray, Then what?

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kman123 said:
Knowing Microsoft, developing a brand new format that can adapt on it's own, and will take over the world.

True fact.
Didn't they try that with HD-DVD?

And they failed.
 

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I reckon Xbox getting blu-ray would be a cheap copy of PS3.....like how both Playstation and Xbox now have motion controls like the Wii (facepalm).....Something new and original might be nice -_-.....you know, something the competitor DOESN'T have...
 

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They're going Death-ray and take of the world. Wasn't that obvious?

Well, like everyone said, HD DVD.
 

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TheFinalFantasyWolf said:
I reckon Xbox getting blu-ray would be a cheap copy of PS3.....like how both Playstation and Xbox now have motion controls like the Wii (facepalm).....Something new and original might be nice -_-.....you know, something the competitor DOESN'T have...
Is it so important now to be original that we're going to call copycat at the notion of two consoles using the same disc medium?
 

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Tape decks are tots coming back. Maybe some 8 inch floppy disks as well.

In all seriousness Microsoft will probably try to "develop" a new platform or just use BD's it's tough to say. Though I like the idea of them using SDHC cards but I feel the chance for piracy would be huge. They would have to develop a proprietary card and other features for security, I mean look what happened with the DS and R4's and other various flashcarts.

I just hope to god they don't try to be the Steam of Consoles, because I don't usually keep my 360 hooked up to live(I don't really care for multiplayer most things I play are single player).
 

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I cannot believe nobody has said "X-Ray" yet.
Death-Ray, Done.

Anyway, back on topic :

I hope its not Blu-Ray, I do not want to shell out 100 dollars per game, As far as I know, MOST of the time PC games are a lot cheaper than 360 Games, which are a LOT more cheaper than PS3 Games, and perhaps part of the reason PS3 games are expensive is because of the cost of Blu-Rays.

...Unless if its because of how for every Ps3 sold, sony is making a loss...

Either way, Im more in favor of Hard Drive Direct Downloads.
 

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Gudrests said:
On topic: Blue-ray....or USB's or something but...Blue-ray
I was thinking USB's ages ago as a format for Movies/Games, and to be honest it could easily work, i'm surprised no one has used it as a format.

OT: Blu-Ray for sure, although as stated the USB idea could easily work
 

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meh, i reckon by the time they do bring out a new console, there will be some new type of disc.

RevRaptor said:
I would love to see cartridges return, with the ssd tech at the moment cartridges would totally out preform bluray and no more scratched disks :)
and when it doesnt work, we could just blow into it.
[sub]ahh find memories.[/sub]
 

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arc1991 said:
Gudrests said:
On topic: Blue-ray....or USB's or something but...Blue-ray
I was thinking USB's ages ago as a format for Movies/Games, and to be honest it could easily work, i'm surprised no one has used it as a format.

OT: Blu-Ray for sure, although as stated the USB idea could easily work
I think what it boils down to is this simple fact..How many CD's can you fit in a box...how many USB's. Which is more expensive
 

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valkeminator said:
Either way, Im more in favor of Hard Drive Direct Downloads.
thats a terrible idea, think of how much they will charge for that crap.

as it is, the xbox's on demand feature is already really bad at pricing.
 

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Eri said:
I'm going to assume the next xbox won't have blu-ray. It would be lovely if it did, but it probably won't. DVDs are already too small for many games. They're even trying to squeeze out a last drop of life with the incoming May firmware update that gives a 15 percent-ish boost to disc space for their games.

If not blu, What are they planning on doing? Maybe trying to make their own new format just for the new console? Staying with DVDs even? Thoughts?
What games are too small to fit on DVDs? I don't think I own a single game that isn't on a single disc :S

Given the cost and general annoyance of bluray, I don't understand why anyone uses it. Flash memory is so much more versatile and works with much cheaper hardware. When ebay sells 32gb USB sticks for $~30 methinks there's absolutely no need for expensive and unnecessary blu rays or blu ray drives.

Sony can push blu ray as hard as they like, but it's expensive, unnecessary and easily substituted with cheap flash hardware or digital distribution.
 

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TheFinalFantasyWolf said:
I reckon Xbox getting blu-ray would be a cheap copy of PS3.
Yeh, sure, because the Xbox was a cheap copy of the PS2 and the Wii Was a cheap copy of the Xbox simply because they all used the DVD format?

Just because a system uses the same disk format doesn't mean they are cheap copy's of one another.
 

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Eri said:
If not blu, What are they planning on doing?
No idea.


Maybe trying to make their own new format just for the new console?
Not unless Microsoft were hit with a Monumental Stupidity Ray. That's a massive financial investment with nothing to offset it. It would mean a massive increase in the costs of both the console AND the physical media.


Staying with DVDs even?
Possibly.


Thoughts?
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Dys said:
What games are too small to fit on DVDs? I don't think I own a single game that isn't on a single disc :S
La Noire is 3 disk.

Given the cost and general annoyance of bluray, I don't understand why anyone uses it. Flash memory is so much more versatile and works with much cheaper hardware. When ebay sells 32gb USB sticks for $~30 methinks there's absolutely no need for expensive and unnecessary blu rays or blu ray drives.
What cost and general annoyance are you referring to? It's not more than 30 dollars to make a blu-ray disk, it's several times less.
 

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Blu-Ray is still new tech tbh. No need to replace it yet. Just wait till games get so big that it will be like FF VIII for PS1. You will have 4 blu-ray disks lol
 

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Gudrests said:
arc1991 said:
Gudrests said:
On topic: Blue-ray....or USB's or something but...Blue-ray
I was thinking USB's ages ago as a format for Movies/Games, and to be honest it could easily work, i'm surprised no one has used it as a format.

OT: Blu-Ray for sure, although as stated the USB idea could easily work
I think what it boils down to is this simple fact..How many CD's can you fit in a box...how many USB's. Which is more expensive
Well usually USB's are more expensive depending how many Gigs they can hold(a 16 gig is much more expensive than a 4 gig), A USB needs what? A gig or 2 to hold a game? Not even that. I have about 3-4 on one USB and it's only a 2 gig.
 

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nobodylikesraisins said:
Dys said:
What games are too small to fit on DVDs? I don't think I own a single game that isn't on a single disc :S
La Noire is 3 disk.
Fair enough lol. I genuinely hadn't come across it. Is it multidisc because there is a whole lot of content or because they didn't bother compressing the audio and video (ala metal gear solid 4).
Given the cost and general annoyance of bluray, I don't understand why anyone uses it. Flash memory is so much more versatile and works with much cheaper hardware. When ebay sells 32gb USB sticks for $~30 methinks there's absolutely no need for expensive and unnecessary blu rays or blu ray drives.
What cost and general annoyance are you referring to? It's not more than 30 dollars to make a blu-ray disk, it's several times less.
The cost of a disk is near $30 to produce, flash drives are commercially sold for less than that. On top of that, a blu ray disc drive costs however much it costs, a USB (or similar) drive costs (probably) less than $10 to produce[footnote]I don't actually know how much, but it's so standard and mass produced that I can't see it being much[/footnote]. There's also the issues associated with lost/damaged discs, faulty lasers (and hence expensive repairs) and so on (especially weak compared to digital distribution).

Honestly, I just don't see why any company without a vested interest in the technology would push blu ray.
 

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C2Ultima said:
Last I heard, they were toying around with their own new disc format.
yes, but as i understand it, the new disk format only increases the space by around 15%. not enough to avoid multiple disks all together.

i have been rather fond of the thumb drive idea. instead of buying a dvd, you buy a thumb drive that has more encryption on it than the sony's server (but then again, so does an Atari). thumb drives are much faster to read from (particularly if you decided to make a larger one with a custom interface), make it harder to duplicate, probably cost less and would cost people money to pirate games. a win for everyone.

although, im hoping steam will grace the 360's shores someday.