Ninja Theory: Devil May Cry Skeptics "Secretly Want to Like It"
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It's funny, because Ninja Theory said they aren't listening to any complaints (troll or otherwise), and yet people still gripe and complain endlessly over it. Here's the breakdown: you aren't happy, the current devs don't care, you're still whining about it. You see how little sense that makes?
Listen, Ninja Theory is the new developer. They want to do something different with it. Is that, in itself, a bad thing? I'm going to cite the obvious here, Treyarch and Infinity Ward. You can complain all you want about some of the crappier games, but Call of Duty: World at War was a good game, dammnit. Just... deal with it. Give Ninja Theory a chance here, guys.
Listen, Ninja Theory is the new developer. They want to do something different with it. Is that, in itself, a bad thing? I'm going to cite the obvious here, Treyarch and Infinity Ward. You can complain all you want about some of the crappier games, but Call of Duty: World at War was a good game, dammnit. Just... deal with it. Give Ninja Theory a chance here, guys.
.... no shit asshole.
Of course I'd want to like any DMC game but your take on it looks like it's going to be, at best, decent.
And your smugness isn't helping at all.
Of course I'd want to like any DMC game but your take on it looks like it's going to be, at best, decent.
And your smugness isn't helping at all.
I am still waiting for mor gameplay vids before I go all "HULK SMASH". I did react negativly when I first saw the character design, I admit that but it sounds like they are changeing alot and while change can be good, I am not so sure in this case.
Also, Don't fuck this up Ninja Theory.
Also, Don't fuck this up Ninja Theory.
There is little reason to be angered by the new character design (or at the very least the hair color). Why? Because it actally fits into canon. Let me explain.
There is a three-volume manga series that functions as a prequel to DMC3. In this, it is mentioned (briefly) that Dante's hair was not always white; it became white when his demon powers manifested (they never do state the previous hair color). So, assuming this is a new origin story (as I believe it was stated once), then the black hair at least, does work. This new game can potentially fit into the current canon. That's all I'm saying.
The only problem I have with the design is actually that the "new" Dante smokes. It was well established that "[Dante] doesn't smoke. He's too cool for that." Though if he, I dunno, gives up the smoking during the course of the game, then again, it can fit into canon.
Besides, as long as the game plays like a DMC title, all of this doesn't really matter.
There is a three-volume manga series that functions as a prequel to DMC3. In this, it is mentioned (briefly) that Dante's hair was not always white; it became white when his demon powers manifested (they never do state the previous hair color). So, assuming this is a new origin story (as I believe it was stated once), then the black hair at least, does work. This new game can potentially fit into the current canon. That's all I'm saying.
The only problem I have with the design is actually that the "new" Dante smokes. It was well established that "[Dante] doesn't smoke. He's too cool for that." Though if he, I dunno, gives up the smoking during the course of the game, then again, it can fit into canon.
Besides, as long as the game plays like a DMC title, all of this doesn't really matter.
While I'll admit that the complaints against this game are out of hand, this just reeks of smugness. And I much prefer the writing in Devil May Cry 3 to Enslaved, both are pretty standard fair as far as story goes but Devil May Cry 3 was at least funny.
Honestly, I respect Ninja Theory and Capcom for sticking to their guns. It takes cojones to stand up for your game despite all the backlash it gets. If the game is good or bad, it will be due to its own merits, not because Dante doesn't look exactly like before.
They're sticking to their guns, for good or ill. And I respect that, to an extent.
And really, with fans reacting as childishly as this, I wonder why they're taking the "talk to the hand" approach? Well, certainly if they were just reasonable then everyone would be happy! Except the fans. Because they are being completely immature and won't be satisfied no matter what they do.
As I've said any time this is mentioned, it's okay to be worried about the game. Be worried about its direction, that is completely understandable. But the amount of pure hatred this game is getting before any real substance is provided for the game is just ridiculous. It's practically a case study of gamers being unable to accept change. The game could be gold and diamonds but the "fans" would still hate on this game, dogmatically refusing to change their minds out of the immature belief that somehow they are right and it just terrible.
They're sticking to their guns, for good or ill. And I respect that, to an extent.
Yes, for changing Dante into a.........what exactly did they change Dante to?See, an interesting thought occurred to me, everyone is screaming around like a banshee, saying "Dante is ruined!" when, really, all we have seen is a redesign. Nothing on his character. People say "emo angsty teen Twitard!", but when has he ever shown characteristics of said emo/angsty characteristics? He looks much more like a punk-ass kid, and that's evident considering his fighting style.Issurru said:
And really, with fans reacting as childishly as this, I wonder why they're taking the "talk to the hand" approach? Well, certainly if they were just reasonable then everyone would be happy! Except the fans. Because they are being completely immature and won't be satisfied no matter what they do.
As I've said any time this is mentioned, it's okay to be worried about the game. Be worried about its direction, that is completely understandable. But the amount of pure hatred this game is getting before any real substance is provided for the game is just ridiculous. It's practically a case study of gamers being unable to accept change. The game could be gold and diamonds but the "fans" would still hate on this game, dogmatically refusing to change their minds out of the immature belief that somehow they are right and it just terrible.
I'm just repeating shit I've been told, I can't promise that it's accurate. What I've heard is that the designer and co-founder Tameem Antoniades just made the character look like him.
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My sentiments exactly. I want to like it because it's Devil May Cry. But they're going to have to prove to me that it actually is Devil May Cry.Alufear said:
Also, this was the first I've heard about it being 30fps. Hope that doesn't mess things up too much. The silky smooth controls were one of the main things I loved about DMC. That, and the ridiculously cheesy and sarcastic dialogue.
Is this like ID saying Blizzard had "the force to make people like it".
TBH, this is all getting really bloody creepy.
TBH, this is all getting really bloody creepy.
I don't like you putting words in my mouth Ninja Theory!
I judge if I like DMC for myself when I play it.
I judge if I like DMC for myself when I play it.
Well, when this guy has a history of blaming others for his studio's failings (on the gameplay, presentation, AND story fronts) then it's hardly surprising he strokes his huge yet fragile ego once more. Honestly, in any other industry his ass would get dropped like a rock.Seventh Actuality said:
Also, only ONE game has ever been able to hit 60 FPS on the Unreal 3 engine, and that's Mortal Kombat. Even then it's only because a LOT of sacrifices had to made to reach that requirement. Kiss any chances of this game being smooth and receptive good-bye
They look nothing alike, they merely have the same "teardrop" fringe (or bang if your Northern American), which is actually my hairstyle, the dirty filthy hipster that I am.Actual said:
Facially they look nothing alike.
edit: guy in pic has a blended hair cut, Dante has a step
Dante has angular cats eyes, guy has eyes that are angled at the outer edges
Same goes with the eyebrows
Dante has squared jaw, guy hasn't
Dante has defined pursed lips, guy has rounded lips (sorry I got that wrong, guy has pursed lips, Dante has thin lips)
I could carry on, so I shall
Dante has roman nose... blahdee blah blah
Dante has raised "model" style cheekbones, hairdresser guy that probably drives a mazda has lowered cheekbones.