Nintendo Announces 2DS, Wii U Deluxe Price Cut

[Snotnarok]

I'mmm gonna be honest, for all the rage and hate people seem to be giving this, I think it looks like a really good buy considering it's cheaper and it lacks the dumb 3D feature that either doesn't interest some, or hurts the eyes of others...like me. So not wasting money on a useless feature is fine for me, this may make me buy one.

 

[Nazulu]

Yeah, I can't defend that 2DS, that really is just plain stupid. Even with people saying it's for kids, that still doesn't explain why there is no other option, and also why the 3DS didn't have an option like this from the beginning.

Great news on the Wii U though, especially when I last heard they couldn't lower the price. I can now buy one sooner as soon as there is a game I'm really interested in. They must have a plan.

 

[VinLAURiA]

Even with people saying it's for kids, that still doesn't explain why there is no other option, and also why the 3DS didn't have an option like this from the beginning.

3DS does allow you to restrict 3D through parental controls alongside just turning it off through the slider, y'know.

 

[Nazulu]

Even with people saying it's for kids, that still doesn't explain why there is no other option, and also why the 3DS didn't have an option like this from the beginning.

3DS does allow you to restrict 3D through parental controls alongside just turning it off through the slider, y'know.

I wasn't talking about that. I meant the design of the device, y'know. Some people here believe this design is better for kids cause it's not as dangerous. Sounds like absolute fluff to me but I wouldn't know.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Even with people saying it's for kids, that still doesn't explain why there is no other option, and also why the 3DS didn't have an option like this from the beginning.

3DS does allow you to restrict 3D through parental controls alongside just turning it off through the slider, y'know.

The fact that it was there in the first place and wasn't used basically at all in games a year after its release made the 3D a pointless feature to have. The same thing happened to the Wii-Mote 2 years after the Wii's release for the most part and there have been next to no Wii U games that have utilized the tablet controller function in any major way since Zombi U. The gimmick features of Nintendo products need to stop as not even Nintendo uses them after a while...

 

[Yuno Gasai]

I don't understand all the hate for the 2DS.

If you're happy with your 3DS, then great! This isn't a purchase which will impact the future release of any new games, nor will it entice you to buy something you don't need. In fact, the 2DS won't influence your gaming experience at all.

There are people who can't deal with 3D for medical reasons, or simply because they feel queasy when playing it (which is perfectly understandable, given that you have to hold the console basically stationary to alleviate 3D-induced headaches), and this is the perfect solution for them. Sure, there's a slider.. But accidents do happen, as much as some people would like to deny that fact.

Let them have a version of the new DS they can deal with (and still play all the new games on), and shut up. It's not hurting you.

 

[sneakypenguin]

I'm not to fussed about a cheap version without 3d but who the hell thought that design is any good. The touch screen is below the main input buttons... it doesnt fold... Outside of someone being too poor to afford the extra 40 for the better system(in which case you probably shouldnt be buying new consoles anyway) why would anyone get this.

 

[Zeckt]

That 2d thing looks absolutely *terrible*, so I don't regret my 3ds xl. However, no thanks on the Wii u

 

[weirdee]

i feel like the people who are concerned about the screen won't actually go through the effort of spending a few dollars for screen protectors

i suspect a further subgroup of those people would somehow end up damaging their units even with the clamshell, or in spite of it, break the hinge instead and render it completely useless

meanwhile, the fact that this form factor introduces a few odd variations in gameplay design (for instance, trying to aim the cannon in super mario 3d land with the accelerometer would be from a different perspective on the 2ds, and face raiders would have to be completely adapted to the 2ds in order to function) goes largely unnoticed, and these would be the points people should be picking to argue, instead of all the other things which actually have backing to them

 

[subtlefuge]

The 2DS creates a few problems.

- It creates the possibility for more confusion. We now have the DS, 3DS and 2DS (and that isn't even counting the revisions). When parents buy a 2DS (why not, it's $40 cheaper) and then they go looking for 2DS games.....see the problem.

- Nintendo loses $40 for every purchase that could have been a 3DS but the 2DS was instead bought because it was there and cheaper. In other words, the parent who would have paid $170 but now doesn't have to.

- It devalues the 3D feature. It is now, no longer standard for all devices that play 3DS games.

If the 3DS is doing well, then why would Nintendo release a cheaper version? That's like a price drop when it isn't needed. Parental controls can solve the kids and 3D problem.

Let me put it this way, a cheaper Wii while the Wii was flying off the shelves would have been unheard of and it also didn't happen.

I'll agree with the first part, but I'm assuming that the 2DS is significantly cheaper to make, which means that they wouldn't be losing $40. They might actually be more profitable. Can't say for certain because I have no clue.

That said, if the 3DS was doing poorly, they could release the 2DS at any time, but it is releasing the exact same time as Pokemon X/Y, which leads me to believe that they are positioning themselves to be "the toy" this year. Which the $125 mark is a really good one to hit, considering how average Christmas spending is around the $275 mark. The 2DS and Pokemon would leave the average parents with around $100 to finish their shopping, while the 3DS would leave $60 and the XL only $20.

 

[Something Amyss]

- Nintendo loses $40 for every purchase that could have been a 3DS but the 2DS was instead bought because it was there and cheaper. In other words, the parent who would have paid $170 but now doesn't have to.

Of course, they're losing money on the 3DS and this is significantly cheaper due to the tech missing.

This might be a better deal for them. In fact, it might be better if they "lose" sales for this.

- It devalues the 3D feature. It is now, no longer standard for all devices that play 3DS games.

It devalues a useless feature people weren't using. Not seeing the problem.

If the 3DS is doing well, then why would Nintendo release a cheaper version? That's like a price drop when it isn't needed. Parental controls can solve the kids and 3D problem.

The same reason they often offer multiple hardware revisions? They did it with the DS when it was "flying off the shelves."

Let me put it this way, a cheaper Wii while the Wii was flying off the shelves would have been unheard of and it also didn't happen.

But the other poster only said "doing well." They probably wouldn't if it was having Wii-level sales, but then, they had multiple hardware revisions with the DS when it was, so maybe they would have. Still, "doing well" doesn't mean Wii-level sales. Nintendo's biggest problem appears to be that they gambled on another Wii/DS. They don't seem to be doing poorly by any reasonable metric.

 

[clippen05]

Seriously? $40 dollars cheaper? If people seriously are considering getting this over the 3DS over price concerns, when its such a small difference between them, I'm not sure they should be buying a system in the first place.

I can maybe understand people who don't care for 3D getting it, but still, that design... Good luck transporting that thing to play on the go; portability is a necessity for a handheld if you ask me.

 

[thebakedpotato]

I would consider buying this, the commercial made it sound like a cheaper version of the 3DS... It also made it seem like I would be put on a list of pedophiles if I were to buy one.

 

[EeveeElectro]

Whenever there is a lot of dislike for something, there's always nearly an equal amount of people saying "shut up, no one is forcing you to buy it" and "get over it!"
Are people forgetting others are entitled to have an opinion? I don't see why some people completely lose their shit over some things but I understand this won't be to everyone's taste and I don't see the problem with them expressing that opinion.
Criticism is a good way for a company to develop after all.

I think the 2DS could be easily broken and damaged too, to be honest. I wouldn't be willing to spend £120 on something like this for my kid, when under correct supervision a normal DS will be just as good.

 

[flamdunk]

I think this is great, when kids want to play the new Pokémon games the clerk will recommend getting this too and also saves money. Without the 3D the parent doesn't have to worry about it hurting the child's eyes as much and without the hinge it's less likely to break when it gets dropped.

Yeah, just replace being snapped in half(which I've never heard of happening, so it doesn't happen all that often) with breaking the screen more easily(something I have seen). Totally worth it.

Also, a handheld that can't fit in the average pocket. It didn't work for Sega in the 90's and it probably won't work now.

 

[Frontastic]

The price is very appealing given that there are a lot of 3DS games I want to play but good lord is it ugly. I agree with everyone else, the lack of folding is both odd and feels wrong. Also shouldn't there be a second stick? I thought all 3DS models were released with two sticks now?

 

[Costia]

I will be waiting for the Nintendo 2DS XL edition.
What I don't understand is: if the 2DS is a single flat surface, why are the screens still split? To me it would make much more sense to have a single large display.

Because of the retarded decision by Nintendo to make two different sized screens on the 3DS (which led to screen scratching).

Apparently it is a single screen partially covered by plastic.
It means that the top half is a touchscreen as well.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664101

 

[Lightknight]

We are talking about the 3DS (should we now call it the 2/3DS) here, not the Vita.

Believe me... I made no mistake. My Vita isn't collecting dust, because I'd have to at least own one in order for it to sit unused.

Your Vita is collecting dust on some store shelf...LOL

And to think, the Vita has sold a couple million more units than the WiiU...

Good on Nintendo for making their products more affordeable. The handheld does look weird but it's really affordable and instantly has the benefit of an established gaming library. Maybe it'll be ok on the hands? Exposed screens are pretty much never a good thing thought.

The WiiU price cut was surprising but necessary. Nintendo was already supposedly taking a significant loss on each console sold so another $50 per unit isn't helping. But this at least helps the WiiU/PS4 comparison where it was just $50 more for the most powerful console that will be on the market that was set to have more good games in two months than the WiiU will have acquired in over a year. Will another $50 make the difference? I don't know. I personally think they're still another $50 above their target market's price range.

What's going on with the standard unit? Is that being discontinued? 8GB of HDD space is a laugh in a world where digital downloads are a thing.

 

[WeepingAngels]

I will be waiting for the Nintendo 2DS XL edition.
What I don't understand is: if the 2DS is a single flat surface, why are the screens still split? To me it would make much more sense to have a single large display.

Because of the retarded decision by Nintendo to make two different sized screens on the 3DS (which led to screen scratching).

Apparently it is a single screen partially covered by plastic.
It means that the top half is a touchscreen as well.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664101

I guess that explains why they didn't go with the clamshell design.

 

[WeepingAngels]

We are talking about the 3DS (should we now call it the 2/3DS) here, not the Vita.

Believe me... I made no mistake. My Vita isn't collecting dust, because I'd have to at least own one in order for it to sit unused.

Your Vita is collecting dust on some store shelf...LOL

What's going on with the standard unit? Is that being discontinued? 8GB of HDD space is a laugh in a world where digital downloads are a thing.

Yeah, I think the Basic model is done. Stores will likely discount it to get it off the shelves.