Nintendo Blames Piracy For Huge European Sales Drop

Ki11erHyde

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Pirating wouldn't be as easy on the NDS if they could upgrade the firmware to not recognize stuff like R4 chips, but I guess that's why they keep releasing new versions of the same handheld.
 

T-Bone24

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There is no guarantee that people who pirate would have bought the game in the first place. Try blaming an over-reliance on gimmicky rubbish (WiiMusic and WiiFit, anyone?) than "pirates".
 

Jed Petty

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Vaccine said:
armaina said:
Yes piracy, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that lots of those in Europe and especially Australia really get the short end of the stick with the prices. Importing from the states is often cheaper for most of them. Maybe if they did something about the huge markup in prices, sales wouldn't be so bad.
$120 for a new release PS3/Xbox360 game, just sayin'.
It's pretty absurd pricing we get, now with gaming going more and more mainstream it's impossible for some people to buy multiple games. I've skipped out on God of War 3, Assassin's Creed 2 and a lot of other games in the past year simply because of money.
I totally agree. I dont care cause i live in the US but you may be on to something.. tsk tsk game companies!
 

Antari

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Irridium said:
Antari said:
JaredXE said:
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Nah, no one will be able to eliminate piracy. But we can reduce it. And doing what you said is one way. Another is for Publishers to take a backseat to the Developers. All we seem to hear about is EA, Activision, Ubisoft, ect. And thats who most people think they're pirating from. But put the developers upfront, let them interact with their communities, actually respond to their criticisms and help with their problems instead of some person from EA pointing us to PR person #49.

Do that, and gamers will start to see the people behind the games. The people who rely on it to feed their families, to be able to live well. No it won't stop piracy, but it will help curb it. All anyone says is that they pirate from the big corporations. But how many people say that they pirate from Tim Schafer, John Carmack, Warren Spector, Will Wright, Shigeru Miyamoto, Sid Meier, or any other developer?
Very good point. If they didn't rush games through production and testing so quickly, one we could eliminate patching systems all together. And two, people would be alot happier about parting with their money, when they get what was actually advertised. Not a lame attempt at what was advertised. Because there was no where near enough time to actually finish the project properly.
 

Mr. GameBrain

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armaina said:
Yes piracy, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that lots of those in Europe and especially Australia really get the short end of the stick with the prices. Importing from the states is often cheaper for most of them. Maybe if they did something about the huge markup in prices, sales wouldn't be so bad.
Not to menton many titles having ridiculously late European releases, (Metroid Prime Pinball anyone?).
 

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Vaccine said:
armaina said:
Yes piracy, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that lots of those in Europe and especially Australia really get the short end of the stick with the prices. Importing from the states is often cheaper for most of them. Maybe if they did something about the huge markup in prices, sales wouldn't be so bad.
$120 for a new release PS3/Xbox360 game, just sayin'.
It's pretty absurd pricing we get, now with gaming going more and more mainstream it's impossible for some people to buy multiple games. I've skipped out on God of War 3, Assassin's Creed 2 and a lot of other games in the past year simply because of money.
If sales in Europe/Australia were down across the board it probably would be prices, and in fact it's more likely than piracy at any rate. Maybe I'm foolish but I still doubt piracy is capable of denting sales in such a massive way especially when companies are still profiting.
 

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Let's just call nintendo Spain. A fat, gluttonous country that has been exploiting the new world ever since it 'discovered' it years before. Suddenly, pirates start attacking their ships in the new world. Oh noes!

Well, actually there are alot of comparisons you can make between nintendo and spain. Both of their policies have been known as barbaric and inhumane. Empires built on the blood of the locals. Not the smartest bunch but controlling the largest population.

Meh, when it comes down to it, nintendo has been trying to keep their systems alive with first party titles solely for the last 14 years. If you look at their top selling games you see New super mario brothers wii, mario kart wii, and wii fitness. Perhaps europe just has a different attitude about the fifth incarnation of the mario kart series, a side scrolling platformer 20 years after the fact and an interactive jerk around game. Maybe nintendo should realize their 4 year old system plays like a 7 year old system. It was particularly brilliant at the time to release a system that wasn't top of the line so they could sell it for half the price of the competetors, but now it is STILL a subpar system that is being held up by the quality of the first party titles, and the other systems have gone down in price and have a stronger library (both of them).

Sure, some pirates MIGHT be getting nintendo games, but what is the point? Pretty much all of them are remakes, and the rest are poor quality games with wonkey controls. If I had a game released on all platforms I would definately pirate the PC version long before I even touched the wii version, because it's just that much better.
 

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And the myth continues........ perhaps its do to something more .. tangible like horrible release dates,horrible prices and random titles not being released in the region........

If you fail to make a sale you have no one to blame but yourself.....
 

Delusibeta

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I think Nintendo's weak line-up over the last year and the success of the iPhone/iPod Touch in the region is more responsabile for the decline in sales than piracy. That said, Nintendo's consoles have been blown open in terms of running unauthorised programs and pirated games (about equal to a jailbroken iPhone, in my opinion), for which Nintendo must blame itself.
 

Jared

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Well, they wil;l be sure to come out with ways to stop it.

If anything, they could try enforce stronger encryption. but, thatwill always be broken eventually. Just one of those things it seems
 

Davrel

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Nice to see how they immediately blame piracy and not the fact that their games might just not appeal as greatly to a European audience as elsewhere.

The latest Nintendo products I own are a Gameboy colour and Pokemon red. And I only know one person who even owns a Wii.
 

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To all the pirates out there I say this

http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

OT: though its probably because all there old customers are turning into teenagers and the new generation just......okay I don't know about the new generation.
 

Antari

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Jaredin said:
Well, they wil;l be sure to come out with ways to stop it.

If anything, they could try enforce stronger encryption. but, thatwill always be broken eventually. Just one of those things it seems
If they make the game properly and priced them reasonably. There would be no need for that, happy customers don't pirate games, they buy them. :)
 

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Antari said:
Jaredin said:
Well, they wil;l be sure to come out with ways to stop it.

If anything, they could try enforce stronger encryption. but, thatwill always be broken eventually. Just one of those things it seems
If they make the game properly and priced them reasonably. There would be no need for that, happy customers don't pirate games. :)
Well thats not strictly true as some people will never change and some people probably pirate because they can't afford anything.

Man the piracy card gets pulled so much its starting to go a bit yellow and fray around the edges.
Maybe they should start blaming ninjas?
 

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In June 2009, Nintendo monitored ten websites offering illegal game downloads and determined that its software had been pirated 238 million times, which it claimed translated into roughly $10.7 billion in lost sales.
Cue pirates "explaining" how not all pirated copies equal lost sales and ignoring just how big the number is.
 

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Ki11erHyde said:
Pirating wouldn't be as easy on the NDS if they could upgrade the firmware to not recognize stuff like R4 chips, but I guess that's why they keep releasing new versions of the same handheld.
PC devs have been trying that with DRM, but the pirates just get around it. There's too many different flash cards for Nintndo to bother coding lockout for each one, and ever if they did, someone would eventually crack it.