Nintendo Doesn't Want to Shut Down Fan Projects
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Don't want to shut any down...except that Zelda fan-film...and that Pokemon MMO. At least they haven't seen the fan-made Starfox 64 sequel yet.
http://www.shadowsoflylat.net/media.php
http://www.shadowsoflylat.net/media.php
From the article, I would guess it would have more to do with the fact (according to that article anyways) that they were playing it in theaters, which likely means they were charging for it. Legally Nintendo would be forced into having to either legally challenge them or officially license it to them in order to protect future copyright claims on the series. Not sure if that's the case here, I didn't really look too far into it besides what you linked.danpascooch said:
That was Square, not Nintendo...Arisato-kun said:
In general I think Nintendo has followed this pretty well, there are plenty of derivative works of Nintendo franchises all over the net. I've seen plenty of video series, both animated and live action, some of it pretty high profile, that Nintendo never goes after. Not to mention webcomics. Also games, I haven't heard of them going after games such as Super Mario Bros. Crossover, Super Mario Bros. X, or Zelda Classic yet. And all three of those are blatant copyright infringement with graphics ripped directly from the old carts and not s bit of parody to hide behind. Awesome, yes, but certainly you can't argue that they're using Nintendo's property without permission. I personnel currently respect Nintendo's stance on this since it looks like their actions represent there statements.
As for the Pokenet thing, that's where "diminish the dignity or value" comes into play. Considering Nintendo is current releasing new Pokemon games regularly, and the game ripped all it's mechanics, monsters, and (apparently from the screens I've seen) graphics directly from the official games, it would have acted as direct competition to the official game series. I'm sure there are plenty of players who would never touch the single player game again if they were playing a MMO that kept up with the new monsters each year. And I'm also sure the big N has been rolling around the idea of a Pokemon MMO in R&D too, so they're watching that turf pretty good. It's just a question of when, where, and how for them.
yeah i was waiting on the edge of my seat for that one and they just let him do almost everything until smacking his hands away.Straying Bullet said:
OT: i think that they do enjoy crushing peoples work. I have nothing to prove this but i just sense it every time they break apart a fan made work.
Personally I think Nintendo's stance on this issue makes perfect sense. I've often said that fans are the worst thing for a franchise (while being well aware of the irony of that). You want to let your fans know you appreciate them and shutting down fan made homages and whatever certainly isn't going to send that message. But on the other hand, if you let them run wild, the fans can destroy the franchise too, taking some of the worst written fan fictions as an example.
Also Nintendo seems to be pretty good at practising what they preach too. For every fan project they've shut down (all 2 of them that I know of), there must be at least 200 or so that they've ignored.
Also Nintendo seems to be pretty good at practising what they preach too. For every fan project they've shut down (all 2 of them that I know of), there must be at least 200 or so that they've ignored.
That was Square-Enix, not Nintendo. Get your facts straight before venting your rage, so you don't wind up looking like an idiot.Arisato-kun said:
Alas, not all game companies can be Valve...Cowabungaa said:
If Nintendo did this and got back Rare, they would be unstoppable.
Nice to see that Nintendo is thinking about copyright more than just doing the "What?! They used our character?! Sue their asses!" method of dealing with problems of that nature. Oh, and a few responses to a few of the user comments:
The Zelda Movie: As Brok3n Halo has already stated, the filmmakers were actually making money off of that film. It makes logical sense why Nintendo would shut it down. And besides, the movie was utter rubbish.
The Pokemon MMO Game: This is almost the exact opposite of The Zelda movie situation. Nintendo is making money off of the series while other people were basically handing out the same game for free. Of course Nintendo is going to shut down people basically handing out their game for free over the internet.
The Chrono Trigger Remake: Nintendo had nothing to do with it, that was Square Enix. Get your facts right.
The Zelda Movie: As Brok3n Halo has already stated, the filmmakers were actually making money off of that film. It makes logical sense why Nintendo would shut it down. And besides, the movie was utter rubbish.
The Pokemon MMO Game: This is almost the exact opposite of The Zelda movie situation. Nintendo is making money off of the series while other people were basically handing out the same game for free. Of course Nintendo is going to shut down people basically handing out their game for free over the internet.
The Chrono Trigger Remake: Nintendo had nothing to do with it, that was Square Enix. Get your facts right.
This helps to explain why they only go after particular fan projects (engine-stealing Pokemon MMO) and leave the rest of them alone (Brawl in the Family, Super Mario Crossover, etc.). I'd wager that for every 1 project they shut down, there's at least another 10 or so that they continue to let run.
I'll bet if the MMO hadn't just ripped everything out of the existing Pokemon games (graphics, engine, and all), it might not have been shut down.
In their defense, it only makes sense for them to shut down a project that looks like it will seriously take off. Most fan projects die long before they're complete, so it was just a matter of waiting to see if the creators were actually going to go through with it.Straying Bullet said:
I'll bet if the MMO hadn't just ripped everything out of the existing Pokemon games (graphics, engine, and all), it might not have been shut down.
If you're referring to the Pokenet game, doesn't matter, it's still competing with the official Pokemon games that Nintendo is still selling.danpascooch said:
Yup! Exactly! Thanks for the summery, my version was kinda long winded and I can't agree with what you said more. ^_^V8 Ninja said:
They really don't have a choice, though. Apart from V8 Ninja's statements, you also have to consider that making a free to play Pokemon MMORPG is well within Nintendo's abilities, and it's basically remaking a game that is still currently being sold and maintained by Nintendo, had it been in a situation where Pokemon as a franchise was basically dead, then I would definitely disagree with Nintendo shutting it down, but that's just not the case.Diligent said:
Did you even look at my link? I wasn't talking about the Pokemon MMO (which I don't have a problem with them shutting down, it could steal business away from them) it was about the Zelda fan movie that caused absolutely no harm to them whatsoever.Dexiro said:
I was talking about the Zelda film, I can see why the pokemon game needed to be shut down, but I don't see how the Zelda film hurt them at all.Brok3n Halo said:
I just looked at three separate articles and saw nothing about them making money off of it, even if Nintendo had to shut it down, they could have told them years ago when they were still making it (they were very public about the project), they had no right to shut it down at that point, but they could have given them a heads up like: "Guys, when you finish this we're going to shut it down, you might not want to bother" and save them 4 years of trouble.
At the VERY LEAST they could not then lie and say "we don't like to shut down fan projects" because that's a load.