Nintendo launching new 2012 console, More powerful than PS3/360

[SomeBritishDude]

I do wonder a little if Nintendo's flag shit titles would actually benefit from Crysis like graphics. Mario Galaxy couldn't have been much prettier. Zelda still feels retro enough that it feels more natural with lower graphics. I could only see Metroid really benefiting. And Pokemon...that shit would just look scary.

 

[VGC USpartan VS]

I will only enjoy this console if it has no motion controlls whatsoever. If it does... then may it never exist and fade out into memory like the 3DS is doing right now.

 

[robinkom]

Well, this holiday season, the Wii will be hitting that 5 year mark that was once typical for home consoles. Considering as of last December, they sold roughly 87 million units worldwide, I'd say they milked it pretty well. Also, realize this: The hardware within the Wii... is a Gamecube. It's only a little faster and has a little more RAM. Said hardware debuted in the Gamecube in 2001... so the core components are going on 10 years of use now. Yeah I think it's time for a new machine.

Never let it be said that Nintendo weren't dedicated to the late Gunpei Yokoi's design philosophy. "Lateral thinking for withered technology."

 

[Leemaster777]

New console at E3? Plausable. Certainly wouldn't be surprised.

More powerful than PS3 and Xbox? I'll believe it when I see it. Not saying it isn't true, but frankly, Nintendo consoles haven't been top-tier in the graphics department in a LOOONG time. (since the 16-bit era, I believe)

Still, the thought of a new Nintendo console interests me. Nintendo is very good at innovation and experimentation when it comes to consoles, so this should be interesting to watch.

 

[katsumoto03]

transvestite teens with 10 foot swords will look a bit better than 4 or 5 colored blocks with eyes?? Oh boy....

Actually, I believe that's Sony's forte...

OT: Would you guys look down upon me if I say I totally just got a boner reading that?

 

[funguy2121]

Calling Bullshit on this.

The wii was sucessful because of how cheap it was.

They said it was powerful, not expensive. As was pointed out in the thread that ninja'd this one by about an hour, the N64 had more processing power than the PSOne and the Gamecube had about the same as the PS2.

Both of those systems sold in part due to their being affordable. The Wii sold not because of how cheap it was but because Nintendo took the opportunity to market to casual gamers as gaming in general took a big leap forward in becoming mainstream. This is the only console they've made where any fair argument can be made that serving their core demographic was subjugated to expanding their base. Here's betting that it won't be more than $100, $150 tops over the Wii's price at launch, even accounting for inflation. Hopefully they use the surplus they made on the wii to take a good faith hit like Sony and Microsoft initially did and lose money on their systems hoping to make money on games.

I was wondering why they've been so quiet. I guess now we know.

 

[HellspawnCandy]

The challenge has begun! I'm sure Microsoft isn't gonna wait 5 years to make another console.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Calling Bullshit on this.

The wii was sucessful because of how cheap it was.

Producing a console with greater power than the 360 or the PS3 can be done for a relatively trivial price simply because technology has advanced dramatically in the interim. Consoles, like any other computational system, follow Moore's Law, after all. The bottom line is for a relatively low price (> 300 USD) one could easily produce a console that is more powerful than the PS3 or 360.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I wonder what it will be called. (Please not Wii2)

Well they already did a wee, so now it's Number 2

I really do wonder how the HD and old school Nintendo games will mix.

 

[Byere]

Yea, I'm not surprised by it either... The mass slow-sales and lack of anything worthwhile being released by Nintendo (not including more rehashes of Mario and Legend of Zelda) in recent years means they could have secretly been working on a new console.

I'll believe it when I see it.

If it's a new console based around motion controls though, it can go straight to hell.

Totally agree with the latter though. If I see any more motion-bullshit released, I'll scream. Bring back old-style controllers. What is the point of motion-based crap if it never works and clicks out every time you move slightly away from the screen? I want to push buttons and move with joysticks, dammit!

 

[Drake_Dercon]

*snip*

Improved graphics aren't the cause of a decline in game quality/complexity. After all, developers have been striving for better graphical quality since the advent of the video game as we know it, and we didn't see a sharp decline in those aspects until the beginning of this generation of consoles. Nintendo is actually a big part of the problem in that regard. The 'streamlining' of video games is due to the developers realizing that the big money isn't actually in designing games for gamers, but is rather in designing games for non-gamers. People who don't like the industry as it is now or as it was just a few years ago. The Wii attracted the most people from the non-gamer demographic, more than anyone thought possible, and Sony/Microsoft followed suit in an attempt to gain some of that market for themselves.

Regardless of where graphics go from here on out, forward, backwards, whatever, 'streamlining' is here to stay as long as developers believe there's more profit to be had in it. No point in rallying against improved graphics when they're just along for the ride.

There's that, but the "for the gamers" area also has that problem, due in part to HD graphics. Hear me out.

Main factors as I understand it:

Trade-in generates no profit for devs
Devs must eat to live
Devs must make games that sell on release day
Graphics sell on release day
Emphasis is put on graphics rather than more important parts of the game
People eat it up
People get sick of games with zero replay value and trade them in
Trade-in generates no profit for devs

When I say "I don't want Nintendo to be dragged down by HD graphics", I mean "I don't want Nintendo to have the same capability to be dragged into this cycle".

There's only so much focus you can put on graphics before you break the console.

For this reason, the Wii has been privy to slightly more innovation than the Xbox or PS3. But I agree with you that appealing to non-gamers almost in exclusivity has been dragging Nintendo down.

Here's a big question: Do you want Nintendo to have BOTH problems.

That's what I'm irrationally afraid of.

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

If it uses the current Classic Controller then yeah i can get behind this, although i think it's high time for nintendo to release a brand new IP, i know they can make a hardcore one, i just know it...

 

[SovietSecrets]

More powerful then 5-6 year old hardware? Damn Nintendo don't go too fast now.

 

[Mute52]

A system made in 2011 better than a system made in 2005?
No way man.

But really, Nintendo hasn't pushed the limits of graphics with their later consoles, if they are moving away from the Wii kind of console, i'm all for it. Even though it will still have to support the Wii motion control for backwards compatibility.

However, if this is the real Nintendo Revolution, and i'm going to get Mario, Zelda, Kirby etc in super epic graphics and an online system that doesn't dabble with 12 digit codes for every single game. I will definitely purchase one.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

I'll believe it when I see it.

If it's a new console based around motion controls though, it can go straight to hell.

Say what you will about, Nintendo, but you can't deny that they try to make unique game consoles compared to their opponent's.

The Game Cube had tiny little discs.

The Wii had motion controls

The DS had a touchscreen

The 3DS has 3D

They seem to make sure their next console has something different then their rivals and their previous consoles.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

A system made in 2011 better than a system made in 2005?
No way man.

But really, Nintendo hasn't pushed the limits of graphics with their later consoles

"Later consoles"? The Wii is the only console of theirs that's graphicaly outdated for its generation.

The DS' graphics were deffinately good. They can't help that the PSP had better graphics, it has better graphics because it needed those to compete and it came out later then the DS.

The 3DS has amazing graphics and the NGP will only surpass it because Sony's trying to surpass them.

 

[Mute52]

A system made in 2011 better than a system made in 2005?
No way man.

But really, Nintendo hasn't pushed the limits of graphics with their later consoles

"Later consoles"? The Wii is the only console of theirs that's graphicaly outdated for its generation.

The DS' graphics were deffinately good. They can't help that the PSP had better graphics, it has better graphics because it needed those to compete and it came out later then the DS.

The 3DS has amazing graphics and the NGP will only surpass it because Sony's trying to surpass them.

PSP's beat out DS, and the Gamecube and Wii were left in the dust by Xbox/Playstation graphics wise.

The NGP will surpass the 3DS' graphics because it's graphics are better, no other real reason.

All i was saying is that if this new console will compete with Sony/MS on the graphics level, i will be impressed.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

A system made in 2011 better than a system made in 2005?
No way man.

But really, Nintendo hasn't pushed the limits of graphics with their later consoles

"Later consoles"? The Wii is the only console of theirs that's graphicaly outdated for its generation.

The DS' graphics were deffinately good. They can't help that the PSP had better graphics, it has better graphics because it needed those to compete and it came out later then the DS.

The 3DS has amazing graphics and the NGP will only surpass it because Sony's trying to surpass them.

PSP's beat out DS, and the Gamecube and Wii were left in the dust by Xbox/Playstation graphics wise.

The NGP will surpass the 3DS' graphics because it's graphics are better, no other real reason.

All i was saying is that if this new console will compete with Sony/MS on the graphics level, i will be impressed.

Geez, what Xbox and PS2 did you have? Mine didn't do anything spectacular that would earn the right to say its graphics outdid the Game Cube.


And honestly, I already said it. So what if the PSP beat out the DS? That's like saying the PS3 beat out the PS2.

I'm sorry, but the DS was released with NO competition. The only bar set for portables(not counting phones) was the Game Boy Advanced, wich they did surpass.


The NGP's graphics may be better, but who cares? That didn't stop the DS from beating down the PSP.

 

[Innegativeion]

Yay, cos the Wii was shit. No good games and terrible graphics, hopefully that will change and we won't just get a bunch of 1st party sequels again

^^ implying nintendo's first party titles aren't "good games"

Color me dumbfounded.

 

[Jumplion]

I doubt this is true.

However, if it is, I have to wonder how much more powerful it would be than the PS3/360. Would like to see the specs first, after all the 3DS was said to be "more powerful" than the PSP, and the NGP comes along and blows it out of the water.

Should be interesting to see what comes of it...