Nintendo President: Mario Games Aren't Too Frequent
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Woah woah woah. Mario's no where near that level of disappointment. The games actually have to be BAD for that to happen. They aren't poorly made, they just have far less new ideas than we're used to from the brand.Boudica said:
But yes there is less innovation from the franchise lately. Miyamoto himself is always at the creative helm of the big new Mario game (Mario bros, Mario World, Mario 64, sunshine, the galaxy games) but lately it seems like he's been focused on the Ocarina port and Pikmin 3. Hopefully he'll be back to the drawing board with some crazy new idea for the old guy.
It's been only 3 years since Galaxy 2, so I don't think he's gotten stagnant quite yet. But I do wanna see the 'next step' within the next 2 years.
I love me some plant-based druggie plumbers. But if you've played one New SB, you've kinda played 'em all.
Anyone else remember that old flash movie series "The Decline of Video Gaming"?
Anyone else think that those guys were too right for their own good? Like seriously they parodied a Mario game called "Mario Does the Laundry". I don't think we're too far from that seeing as how we have a Marble Slab Creamery game on the Wii...
Anyone else think that those guys were too right for their own good? Like seriously they parodied a Mario game called "Mario Does the Laundry". I don't think we're too far from that seeing as how we have a Marble Slab Creamery game on the Wii...
I think he's speaking to investors. If he actually were speaking to gamers I'd hope to god he wouldn't be so stupid as to try and say that Mario games aren't too frequent.Robert Ewing said:
Well, it's always new to somebody. 
to me, if I'm having fun, it shouldn't really matter. i've already come to terms with that, now i rail against people who abuse games for reasons other than that.
from the other side of the story, i've read that the recent games have been developed by separate teams all learning how to develop mario games, so as far as we're concerned these are the results of all these teams learning how to realize their potential while the veterans step back and let them figure it out
to me, if I'm having fun, it shouldn't really matter. i've already come to terms with that, now i rail against people who abuse games for reasons other than that.
from the other side of the story, i've read that the recent games have been developed by separate teams all learning how to develop mario games, so as far as we're concerned these are the results of all these teams learning how to realize their potential while the veterans step back and let them figure it out
As much as I love Mario, they are getting a bit too frequent. What is also making this worse is they are becoming a lot less unique. Most Mario games recently have just been sequels to games that did something unique for the series, but without adding anything really to keep them fresh and interesting. These different Mario series are also being released pretty much every other year right now. Even Super Mario 3D Land which was really good wasn't very unique. I do think there needs to be much more of a slow down on Mario products and more of a focus on capturing that unique experience again.
No, they're not too frequent, they're just all the same. Play one Mario Kart and you've played them all (We're at 8 Mario Karts so far?). Play one Mario Party and you know what's coming (We're at #9 already, two already out for the Wii. Contradictions!). They might have released ONE New Super Mario game per console, but what about Mario Galaxy? And whatever else they're gonna come up with in the future? Cause the chances of them releasing just ONE Mario game for the WiiU, right at its launch, are pretty slim.
And even if they're not that many compared to CoD or whatever, they're just the same. That's the bottom line. So when you buy a Mario game and you find out that it plays and feels almost the same as the last Mario game, you can't help but feel you've already gone through that before just a couple of years ago.
And even if they're not that many compared to CoD or whatever, they're just the same. That's the bottom line. So when you buy a Mario game and you find out that it plays and feels almost the same as the last Mario game, you can't help but feel you've already gone through that before just a couple of years ago.
As a Nintendo fan (pulls out flame shield) Ithink I'm bothered by this even more than most gamers. The worst part is even the Mario games Nintendo does make seem to be repetitions of familiar ideas. Believe it or not there was hen each new Mario game tried to be inventive and unique. Mario is Nintendo's Batman.
Mario titles are kind of too frequent. What used ti distinguish Nintendo titles from say, COD, was that they were somewhat inspired and creative and different. And they seem to be unable to come up with new and differentiating ideas.
I'll probably pick up NSMB2, though, because I only played my ex's copy of the first and never got around to buying it.
I'll probably pick up NSMB2, though, because I only played my ex's copy of the first and never got around to buying it.
At least we're not sunk.DVS BSTrD said:
So two games is too much in 2012? I see only two core Mario games on the list for this year, and only one for last. You can't count every game he just happens to appear in, since he is more Nintendo's logo now then their.. um, logo haha.Grouchy Imp said:
I don't think people realize that this is incredibly infrequent compared to the past. You heard of Mario 1, 2 and 3? ALL came out on the NES.
I would love to see the day that we get three+ core Mario games a console again. We did get Mario Galaxy 1, 2 and new super Mairo bros. wii all on the wii. That was pretty nice! Still one of the only reasons to have one of those white bricks.
"Too frequent"?
I don't think that's the primary concern that Nintendo consumers have.
I'll tell you what is a problem? I can't tell the difference between all of the "new" Mario games anymore. I grew up in a time when Mario 1, 2 (NA Version), 3, World and World 2 were ENTIRELY different creatures. It didn't feel odd to own all or some of those old Mario titles because they all have their own little unique flavours.
If I did still purchase Mario games (which I don't, sorry), I'd accept and largely ignore the "too frequent" issue if they'd start creating things that weren't endlessly recycled and bleached clean of creativity beyond a shiny-looking level or two.
I don't think that's the primary concern that Nintendo consumers have.
I'll tell you what is a problem? I can't tell the difference between all of the "new" Mario games anymore. I grew up in a time when Mario 1, 2 (NA Version), 3, World and World 2 were ENTIRELY different creatures. It didn't feel odd to own all or some of those old Mario titles because they all have their own little unique flavours.
If I did still purchase Mario games (which I don't, sorry), I'd accept and largely ignore the "too frequent" issue if they'd start creating things that weren't endlessly recycled and bleached clean of creativity beyond a shiny-looking level or two.
I dunno, when a big game company says, "We're going to be nice with our DLC and not use it to drain every last penny from you," and they're not Valve, most people's reaction is, "Buuuuullshiiiiit."Mr. Omega said:
Ah, that would indeed be a good point. But if he's actually gotten to the point of actually telling the investors this, then surely he must be starting to get desperate, or at least a bit hot under the collar.AzrealMaximillion said:
There are a lot of games with Mario in the title, but you know what? I just don't buy them all. Someone who likes Mario Kart and Mario Party doesn't necessarily like 3D Land or NSMB. I am incredibly excited for Paper Mario: Sticker Star whereas Mario vs Donkey Kong, Mario Tennis or Mario Galaxy doesn't really hype me up at all. There's a lot under the Mario umbrella but just because he stars in hundreds of games doesn't mean all of those games are even anywhere close to the same thing. Does it really matter that it's Mario branded, of all things?
This year we also got a new Kid Icarus, a new Fire Emblem (though we won't see it in English until next year), we're getting a new Pikmin, we got another new Zelda that really tried something new for better or for worse, a new Paper Mario is coming, we got Xenoblade (yes, it's 1st party!). That's a lot of new stuff to be happy with. Not to mention some strong 3rd party offerings like the Tales of Abyss port from Namco, Last Story from Mistwalker, and the possibility of Soul Hackers on the 3DS from Atlus next year.
This year we also got a new Kid Icarus, a new Fire Emblem (though we won't see it in English until next year), we're getting a new Pikmin, we got another new Zelda that really tried something new for better or for worse, a new Paper Mario is coming, we got Xenoblade (yes, it's 1st party!). That's a lot of new stuff to be happy with. Not to mention some strong 3rd party offerings like the Tales of Abyss port from Namco, Last Story from Mistwalker, and the possibility of Soul Hackers on the 3DS from Atlus next year.
It sucks that they would put on DLC, because this is the first time they've really pushed for it, but at the very least they should be the least asshole-ish of the main publishers as far as DLC goes.
Look, I'm not gonna get into this again. I posted that link to lightheartedly poke fun at exactly what Nintendo will stick Mario's name to in order to make a quick buck. For the record SMB 1 was the reason I bought a NES, so yeah, I've heard of it. It's just possible to have too much of a good thing.xPixelatedx said:
I think even investors at this point in the entire console gaming business are thinking that the trademark monotony of Nintendo needs to stop. Nintendo hasn't had the best 2 years and the Wii U looks to be gaining very little attention overall. It spells trouble for anyone with money in Nintendo.Robert Ewing said: