Nintendo - Time Is Running Out

[distortedreality]

Weird that you do capitalize the I's in some cases and not in others, such as those I've made bold. Would seem more like a mistake in that case.

Stand-alone vs part of a word. Never pretended to be consistent lol.

 

[Volstag9]

I don't like Nintendo. Most of my friends don't like them either. Still, the company wont crash and burn just yet. I'll admit that.

Also, I have seen some kids at least still playing Nintendo games. I think I'm a minority in my dislike.

I don't understand what you're talking about. The Wii and DS are both great systems and I play them every day.

Yeah, you might. But Nintendo is becoming less and less popular with kids. That's what the OP was saying. Other than owning a Gameboy and occasionally playing Pokemon, I never touched Nintendo when I was younger so I get what the OP is saying.

 

[Worgen]

Or, it's an opinion formed through years of watching, in my opinion, Nintendo become less and less relevant to the core gaming demographic.

Call me crazy, but I couldn't find that being stated or even inferred in the OP...

Either way, I don't actually see that as a problem, as the "core gaming demographic" has changed dramatically over the past 10 years (or even stretch it out to the time frame you're talking about).

Considering I used words like good, bad, stupid looking and I don't think, opinion is inferred. See, subjective words mean subjective opinion.

The more you know!

An opinion is inferred, but not necessarily the opinion you just stated.

FYI - might be worth making your opinion clearer so people actually get what you're trying to say. All i'm getting from it is "Nintendo aren't the same company as they used to be" - and i'm sure there must be more to your post than that.

captcha - in the limelight

I don't think you read or comprehended the post, if this is the case. I state, in no uncertain way, several times that I believe Nintendo is headed for obscurity. I also, again in no uncertain terms, say Nintendo is offering very little in the way of solid games and has ridden its core IP collection into the ground. I even close by saying, "I don't think Nintendo has enough of a face or name to be relevant to the new generations of gamers," adding earlier that I believe things look bad for Nintendo.

If you read the post thoroughly and take a second, you'll get it.

Nintendo will be around for a very long time, in fact, it has already been around for a very long time, it was founded before 1900, it has been in existence for longer then sony and microsoft combined. Even if they do end up getting knocked out of the console making business, they will move on and still be around.

 

[No_Remainders]

basically [sic] it's just your unresearched, non-cited[sic] opinion.

Yeah. It is. That's kind of, like, the whole point. I shared my thoughts and asked what you guys think. Sorry, were you expecting something else? Lol.

Eh... I'm just curious about this.

Do you know what "sic" means? Just wondering, because you're doing it wrong.

Regardless, while I've never held any love for Nintendo outside of the Pokemon games, I don't think they're quite done yet. They're still one of the biggest companies when it comes to gaming, and I think they'll keep churning out old and familiar things until people realise that innovation isn't really a bad thing and finally turn against Nintendo for not making anything really interesting for several years.

 

[MetalDooley]

Funny how people are always predicting doom for Nintendo when both Sony and Microsoft's gaming divisions have been haemorrhaging money for years.If anyone is in trouble it's probably Sony as the PS division was responsible for almost half the companies losses last year

 

[Epona]

They survived the first big industry crash, and it only made them stronger.

The NES came out after the crash. They weren't even in the home console market in the US during the crash.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

basically [sic] it's just your unresearched, non-cited[sic] opinion.

Yeah. It is. That's kind of, like, the whole point. I shared my thoughts and asked what you guys think. Sorry, were you expecting something else? Lol.

Eh... I'm just curious about this.

Do you know what "sic" means? Just wondering, because you're doing it wrong.

Regardless, while I've never held any love for Nintendo outside of the Pokemon games, I don't think they're quite done yet. They're still one of the biggest companies when it comes to gaming, and I think they'll keep churning out old and familiar things until people realise that innovation isn't really a bad thing and finally turn against Nintendo for not making anything really interesting for several years.

They spelled words wrong and misused grammar. I used sic as I was quoting them, but not making the mistakes myself.

 

[FoolKiller]

What's your thoughts?

My thoughts....

Nintendo are fine but have to be careful. They may not seem it, but are quite comfortable at the moment.

Personally, I think that Nintendo lost appeal to me and many gamers in the Cube era because we grew up and the games didn't. They seemed to be still more geared towards kids during that time, and the terrible controller didn't help.

Then this gen rolled around and they go even further from what I like to forcing motion control into games that I wanted to play. I like the Zelda series but I played Twilight Princess on Gamecube so that I could use a controller. And most games that I have for the Wii are controller compatible. What I've seen from the Wii-U has not appealed to me in the least.

I have to say, all three are rapidly losing any appeal to me. I'm what you would consider an old-school gamer. I don't really go online for competitive multiplayer. I prefer to play alone sitting using a controller. Most of my multiplayer is either co-op or on the same screen. I don't even have online friends that I don't know in real life. This is what I want from my gaming.

With controller support for many games on PC (Steam), and the Xbox deciding that they would rather advertise deoderant and try to get me to use Facebook and Netflix than provide me with the gaming focused content that I want, I will probably be ditching all consoles next gen. It's a shame because while consoles have been successful with such ease of access in the past, they are trying to become limited use PCs and I think that their attempts at blurring the line are going to drive many gamers away.

Sorry... I went on a little too much there.

 

[OrpheusTelos]

The handheld market, although still partially dominated by the NDS, didn't offer much else to fans, with a mirrored fate to that of its big brother, the Wii; no games came out and soon everyone forgot they owned the little buggers.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hahaha...

Seriously, that was a good one.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

The handheld market, although still partially dominated by the NDS, didn't offer much else to fans, with a mirrored fate to that of its big brother, the Wii; no games came out and soon everyone forgot they owned the little buggers.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hahaha...

Seriously, that was a good one.

You know Angry Birds for iOS is the highest selling game ever, yeah? The app market sells a metric fuck ton more games than the DS or the 3DS even comes close to.

 

[Lunar Templar]

lol

no

Nintendo will be fine. the fact they reported they're first annual loss, ever, means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

partly dominating the handheld market? as far as dedicated portable gaming platforms go, its running that shit (no, smart phones don't count, those are PHONES) and the Vita is no competition at all, it'll fail like the other two PSPs did and for the same reasons

as for the console race >.> Nintendo is the only one that made a profit of they system, no they didn't have the brown-a-thons the PS3 or 360 had (when it wasn't RRoDing) but a funny thing, Sony and Microsoft, don't own the rights most those big sellers, so 'how much they sold', doesn't really mean shit for them profit wise, and make no mistake, both Sony and Microsoft have been losing money on they consoles. a LOT of money.

in short, you should be more worried about your PS3 or 360 not being around much longer, not Nintendo

 

[RipRoaringWaterfowl]

Yup, I think they'll do just fine. They survived the first big industry crash, and it only made them stronger.

Oh, definetly. Thing is though, they were:

a)Barely in the market at the time. Here are their products in 1983:

Granted, there were many variations of those products, but the first was a Pong console only availible in Japan, and the second didn't have any competition. And was not really visible.

b)Barely any presence in North America. The crash happened there, and Atari was only brought down because it was the biggest player in that market.

I have no doubts that Nintendo will remain strong. I do think that the WiiU might not do so hot, and that might kick Nintendo out of the hardware market, but that's conjecture. It's just that it surviving the North American Video Game Crash of 1983 doesn't count for much in it's case. Heck, even Activision and Atari survived, in weakened form.

 

[Lunar Templar]

The handheld market, although still partially dominated by the NDS, didn't offer much else to fans, with a mirrored fate to that of its big brother, the Wii; no games came out and soon everyone forgot they owned the little buggers.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hahaha...

Seriously, that was a good one.

You know Angry Birds for iOS is the highest selling game ever, yeah? The app market sells a metric fuck ton more games than the DS or the 3DS even comes close to.

o.o .... i'm confused, .... sell? Angry Birds is free dood.

so until some one actually throws out how much they are really making off the game it self, I'm not inclined to humor any game that if free to play with out sales figures to back it up

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

The handheld market, although still partially dominated by the NDS, didn't offer much else to fans, with a mirrored fate to that of its big brother, the Wii; no games came out and soon everyone forgot they owned the little buggers.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...hahaha...

Seriously, that was a good one.

You know Angry Birds for iOS is the highest selling game ever, yeah? The app market sells a metric fuck ton more games than the DS or the 3DS even comes close to.

o.o .... i'm confused, .... sell? Angry Birds is free dood.

so until some one actually throws out how much they are really making off the game it self, I'm not inclined to humor any game that if free to play with out sales figures to back it up

"Angry Birds became the top-selling paid application on Apple's UK App Store in February 2010, and reached the top spot on the US App Store a few weeks later, where it remained until October 2010. Since release, the free, limited version of Angry Birds has been downloaded more than 11 million times for Apple's iOS, and the full-featured paid version has been downloaded nearly 7 million times as of September 2010. The Android version of the game was downloaded more than 1 million times within the first 24 hours of release, even though the site crashed at one point due to the load, and over 2 million downloads in its first weekend. Rovio receives approximately US$1 million per month in revenue from the advertising that appears in the free Android version."

- See [link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_Birds[/link] for sources.

"By May 2012, the game had reached 1 billion downloads, including Angry Birds, Angry Birds Seasons, Angry Birds Rio and Angry Birds Space. On Christmas Day 2011 alone, 6.5 million copies of the various Angry Birds games were downloaded across all supported platforms."

- See [link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_Birds[/link] for sources.

 

[Manji187]

"What's your thoughts?" You mean what ARE my thoughts?

Since people generally suck at predicting the future, I think I'll just take your prophet of doom rant with a grain of salt and wait and see.

 

[MetalDooley]

and make no mistake, both Sony and Microsoft have been losing money on they consoles. a LOT of money.

in short, you should be more worried about your PS3 or 360 not being around much longer, not Nintendo

Yes this is the point I made earlier.Both MS and Sony have lost a shit ton of money due to their gaming divisions.The 360 only finally became profitable for MS last year,5 years after launch.Sony's gaming division recorded a loss of $2.8 billion last year(over 5 times Nintendo's losses)which accounted for almost half of Sony's overall losses($5.7 billion in total)forcing Sony to axe 10,000 jobs worldwide

Yet we never hear anyone predicting doom for either of these companies

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Yeah, sales mean nothing. Gaming isn't about the money.

Yup, tell that to the hundreds of talented people being laid off within the industry because sales didn't meet expectations.

Poor sales are not exclusive to bad games btw... some good and even great games have slipped under the view of the masses because some generic piece of shit sequel came out and everyone was hungry for a numerical increase to the exact same shit they played last year.

Granted, I would prefer an industry where the quality of the game was more important then the size of the market it's aimed at. But that's not the case... niche games are dying within the industry, Indie Developers still succumb to playing it safe (more of the same with a different name) and the new Crowdfunding movement, though optimistic, is likely going to fall hard before it actually goes anywhere new.

Your view is idealistic, and actually kind of heartening, but not true.

 

[Something Amyss]

Actually, last I checked they're still doing okay.

They recently reported their first annual loss. Ever.

I personally have absolutely zero interest in their products, but calls of their demise are drastically premature.

Annual loses aren't necessary for a failing company. They've suffered many quarterly losses before, which are enough to kill a company.

However, Nintendo still seems to be okay.

 

[Henkie36]

As I've said time and again, Nintendo needs to come up with new stuff that actually works. Granted something like the XBox 360 is safe and marketable and yes, if PS3 sales take a dip, Sony still has it's tv's they can rely on for profit, but the point is, they come up with new stuff. All Nintendo ever seems to do is make same four games over and over again, and they have been at it for the past thirty years. Even the Wii is just the next step up from the Power Glove, which also didn't work.

The ''Nostalgic Fanboys'' are gonna run out at some point in time, i'm guessing about ten years from now. Then what? Are they also going to make tv's? Ones that you can control by shaking your head?

Basically, I feel like the R&D is the least funded part of Nintendo. Nothing new, nothing original, it just arrives in a shinier jacket.

 

[Hazy992]

As long as the final product is of high quality, it doesn't matter who gets laid off.

So you don't care about people losing their jobs and companies going bankrupt just so you can play a game? That's pretty fucking harsh.

A good game company never cares about the money.

I really can't be bothered explaining to you yet again why this doesn't make any sense.