Yes it is the old Eyetoy. Just that they added processing power and feed it new data on how to interpret 3D movement. I say it`s going to fail worse than the Wii failed with hardcore gamers.brunothepig said:
Nintendo Turned Down Project Natal
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Uhh oh, the Wii just slapped Project Natal, I wonder if Natal will return to crush the Wii or become a failure that many like to hope/think will happen.
Didn't Miyamoto or someone say they'd saw it being used an he thought it was pretty rubbish, obviously a paraphrase
If that's true, then this could also be true and that makes me think it's gonna completely fail.
If that's true, then this could also be true and that makes me think it's gonna completely fail.
While the technological part is true (I didn`t mean to misinform but to shed light on the fact that Natal is the grandson of the Eyetoy and not Optimus Prime ) the rest is just "selling it to the masses". Flailing my arms around like an idiot is not my ideea of gaming, that is IF the flailing will be properly recognized and I doubt it will.Kwil said:
If some reports are correct, Natal uses around 20% of the processing power of the XBox 360 in order to perform its functions. With all due respect to the Wii, I rather feel that a loss of 20% of processing power would be a much bigger hit for it than for the XBox 360.
I know it's inapt- they're very different platforms, a certain amount of the XBox's power goes into making its HD visuals versus the SD ones of the Wii, and so on, and so on. Still, the most sophisticated perephrial addition the Wii has gotten to date is the Wiimotion Plus. I'm genuinely not certain the Wii would have enough cycles left to process an enjoyable game if it was trying to track four peoples' full-body movements.
I know it's inapt- they're very different platforms, a certain amount of the XBox's power goes into making its HD visuals versus the SD ones of the Wii, and so on, and so on. Still, the most sophisticated perephrial addition the Wii has gotten to date is the Wiimotion Plus. I'm genuinely not certain the Wii would have enough cycles left to process an enjoyable game if it was trying to track four peoples' full-body movements.
They made the freakin' Wii, and yet turned THIS down.
This is for the Nintendo audience. They wouldn't even need a controller, what can get more casual than that?
This is for the Nintendo audience. They wouldn't even need a controller, what can get more casual than that?
It makes sense Nintendo turned Natal down: they always go maximum bang per buck.
The wii remote is cheap and does stupid gimicks too. Most Nintendo customers aren't discerning enough to see a difference while, the discerning gamer prefers a game controller or a mouse.
The wii remote is cheap and does stupid gimicks too. Most Nintendo customers aren't discerning enough to see a difference while, the discerning gamer prefers a game controller or a mouse.
Hmmm, maybe in ten years or so we will have another "Activision didn't buy Blizzard when it was still just worth $7 million".
You might want to work on your reading comprehension. That sentence says Nintendo is on top today (in sales, anyway). The PlayStation and PlayStation 2 beat Nintendo up.Digikid said:
To be honest, while I do agree with Nintendo's words on the project, I do think that considering the amount of processing power Natal is supposed to drain from the 360, the Wii would have taken a much larger hit.
Ultimately, there's no point in sacrificing like 30-40% of your processing power, especially for something you don't think will be all that good.
Ultimately, there's no point in sacrificing like 30-40% of your processing power, especially for something you don't think will be all that good.
Well, kind of, in that it's a camera-based setup that does motion tracking. The Eyetoy is just a basic webcam with a bit of video post-processing capabilities though - it's pretty simplistic. I don't know how much better the demo that Nintendo would have seen at the time would have been though. In the years since then the software behind it has spent a lot of time in Microsoft Research Labs.brunothepig said:
I don't know if it's going to be good as a gaming peripheral, but as a piece of technology Natal (as demonstrated today) is pretty phenomenal. The fact that they're able to get a pair of cameras and some software to do what is effectively real-time motion capturing is a very impressive achievement.
The Wii has a funny name and people are still used to controllers.Onyx Oblivion said:
Project Natal sounds like a hardcore experimental project and people are not used to no controllers.
Should developers really have to make devices for a bigger audience ? The one they have right now is fine and theirs always gonna be more people later on.
