Nintendo's New Zelda Book Reveals Official Timeline
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It isn't the only direct continuation, even though I agree that people should just believe in their own timelines (and that a direct sequel to MM would be awesome).Nazulu said:
There's also Wind Waker (which had lines drawn from Ocarina)/Phantom Hourglass/Spirit Tracks.
Four Swords Adventure was always thought of, until this "official timeline" which I extremely dislike, as a direct sequel to Four Swords (as in, it's the same Link).
If you want you can count the Oracles as direct sequels to, well, each other.
And it was always believed that Link's Awakening was a direct sequel to A Link to the Past.
With this timeline, they basically fucked over what they themselves had always said before (or at least what they implied/fans believed), and they created some hefty plot holes.
I really don't like it.
EDIT: Right, duh. And Zelda 1 and 2.
I think many people will agree with me when I say that timeline fucking blows.
Why does LoZ need a timeline? The only two that are chronological to my knowledge are Ocarina of Time and Majora's mask.
Other than that it just seemed like a Final Fantasy type deal with repeated characters, items, symbols, themes, etc. in different settings.
Why does LoZ need a timeline? The only two that are chronological to my knowledge are Ocarina of Time and Majora's mask.
Other than that it just seemed like a Final Fantasy type deal with repeated characters, items, symbols, themes, etc. in different settings.
So, all the good shit only happened if Link failed in Ocarina of Time.
Well that's a depressing thought. Someone axe the Hero of Time, quick!
Well that's a depressing thought. Someone axe the Hero of Time, quick!
I agree but Link's Awakening was actually called the sequel to Link to the Past when it was advertised 17 odd years ago.THEoriginalBRIEN said:
I just find this whole thing amusing.
Nintendo: There is no timeline
behind closed doors...
Nintendo lackey to Nintendo: the concept of a timeline generates buzz and interest in this series
later....
Nintendo: There is a timeline but its secret.
in a meeting....
Nintendo lackey to Nintendo: we could generate revenue if we publish a collectible item like a book detailing the timeline
later....
Nintendo: Here is a book describing the timeline with crafty flowcharts and lots of jabberwocky
I would had thought the Link to the Past+ Timeline would be from Ganon being sealed in the Dark World at the end of Ocarina of Time, considering that's exactly where he's sitting when Link to the Past starts. Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and Four Swords Adventure fits in well there too.
Cause Link to the Past doesn't start up in a world ruled by Ganon, unless you count his wizard murdering the king and then running around duping soldiers, it starts up with Ganon sealed in the Dark World right where you face him.
The only games that really don't 'fit' is Wind Waker+, and they sorta make more sense in a 'failure' world, where the Gods flood Hyrule because Ganondorf (who, I might add is human in Wind Waker) is running around unchecked.
Also, Majora's Mask only makes sense in a victory/child split (if Victory/Child and Victory/Adult absolutely have to be two things). Considering he's.. you know.. a child. During that whole game.
You know what? I can buy the split and the 3 lines, but I think they just got them mixed up.
@ People going LoZ doesn't need a story: You guys realize that at no point no game really forces you to give a crap about this meta timeline? (Except maybe Skyward Sword, but I haven't played that).
Cause Link to the Past doesn't start up in a world ruled by Ganon, unless you count his wizard murdering the king and then running around duping soldiers, it starts up with Ganon sealed in the Dark World right where you face him.
The only games that really don't 'fit' is Wind Waker+, and they sorta make more sense in a 'failure' world, where the Gods flood Hyrule because Ganondorf (who, I might add is human in Wind Waker) is running around unchecked.
Also, Majora's Mask only makes sense in a victory/child split (if Victory/Child and Victory/Adult absolutely have to be two things). Considering he's.. you know.. a child. During that whole game.
You know what? I can buy the split and the 3 lines, but I think they just got them mixed up.
@ People going LoZ doesn't need a story: You guys realize that at no point no game really forces you to give a crap about this meta timeline? (Except maybe Skyward Sword, but I haven't played that).
Eh!? You must be better at seeing into this stuff than me. I never noticed anything OoT related in WW.ZeroMachine said:
This will probably sound ignorant as I haven't researched any of it, but none of the games seem like a sequel at all except OoT to MM, cause they actually showed some relation at the beginning.
So like you said, needs more direct sequels that are aware of the previous games if you know what I mean.
Well, the Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass one is 100% true, and I'm sure that's fairly obvious. Don't forget that. The other ones were all just heavily implied.Nazulu said:
As for OOT/WW, if you play it again, look at the stained glass windows around the room with the Master Sword.
Here they are if you don't plan on it:
Take note of the Six Sages and what is obviously Ganon from OOT.
Thanks for sharing, really appreciate it. Honestly couldn't care for either of them though. The new born legends are just an excuse, and WW to PH went out on their own tangent. Hope I'm not being mean.ZeroMachine said:Well, the Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass one is 100% true, and I'm sure that's fairly obvious. Don't forget that. The other ones were all just heavily implied.Nazulu said:
As for OOT/WW, if you play it again, look at the stained glass windows around the room with the Master Sword.
Here they are if you don't plan on it:
Take note of the Six Sages and what is obviously Ganon from OOT.
Nah. Nothing can be liked by everyone, you know?Nazulu said:Thanks for sharing, really appreciate it. Honestly couldn't care for either of them though. The new born legends are just an excuse, and WW to PH went out on their own tangent. Hope I'm not being mean.ZeroMachine said:Well, the Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass one is 100% true, and I'm sure that's fairly obvious. Don't forget that. The other ones were all just heavily implied.Nazulu said:
As for OOT/WW, if you play it again, look at the stained glass windows around the room with the Master Sword.
Here they are if you don't plan on it:
Take note of the Six Sages and what is obviously Ganon from OOT.
This is the wrong move by Nintendo. The company should not have given an official chronology because the people that asked for it simply do not know what they wanted. They will complain when there is no official answer. They will complain even louder when the official answer does not fit into their version of timeline events.
Knowing the chronology is essentially pointless anyway because every game is essentially the same one, only told in different ways. It is a literal legend and nothing else.
Also, it will always boil down to the following: Games that are loved in the series will go one way. Games that are disliked will go another.
Knowing the chronology is essentially pointless anyway because every game is essentially the same one, only told in different ways. It is a literal legend and nothing else.
Also, it will always boil down to the following: Games that are loved in the series will go one way. Games that are disliked will go another.
It is so hard to read through this thread without finding SS spoilers everywhere. Thanks to the people that took the time to cover some of them up. Because of that, I'll just skim through some past comments. Don't blame me if I'm repeating what everyone already said.
Honestly, I want to understand the Zelda timeline, which is why as soon as this book available here in the US, I'll snatch it. However, trying to understand the correct Zelda timeline is like trying to understand how rocket science works. In Korean. In space. I don't know, I just think it's really hard!
But! At this moment, I've come to realize that may never happen. It doesn't matter; since all Zelda games are apparently not that related at all (As in, it's very rare for one of them to be a direct sequel from another AND for the game to be straight honest about it and the whole 'different Links' business), it shouldn't really affect my experience with the games.
Honestly, I want to understand the Zelda timeline, which is why as soon as this book available here in the US, I'll snatch it. However, trying to understand the correct Zelda timeline is like trying to understand how rocket science works. In Korean. In space. I don't know, I just think it's really hard!
But! At this moment, I've come to realize that may never happen. It doesn't matter; since all Zelda games are apparently not that related at all (As in, it's very rare for one of them to be a direct sequel from another AND for the game to be straight honest about it and the whole 'different Links' business), it shouldn't really affect my experience with the games.
It was probably better when they left it all up in the air. Fan guess sessions are ruined forever!
Except this is a complete retcon, taking away any and all weight. There is no way in hell that this storyline was planned out from the beginning or even after Ocarina of Time. This is a ridiculous hodge podge of pushing square pegs into round holes in some instances.BiH-Kira said:
The only real fact about the Zelda storyline is that it was fine until Ocarina of Time came along. After that it all went to shit and that's when they really started monetizing the concept instead of coming up with new intellectual properties. So instead of being creative they ruined the storyline of a great series.
