No FOV Control in Far Cry 4? You Pirated the Game

[webkilla]

Sooo... punishing offline players to prevent piracy? Classy

That was my initial thought too. Not sure which is worse, if they really did do it on purpose and just didn't care about offline players or they are lying and trying to pass off a missing feature as anti-piracy measure

Oh gods yes - that could actually be it...

 

[oldtaku]

I BOUGHT, okay, I was GIFTED, the game...

And, BLACK SCREEN!

No game play, just crashing with a black screen.

If you haven't found the workaround yet, unplug all your USB devices except bone simple KB and mouse, especially X360 pad, Logitech G13, wheels, many Razer mice, Bluetooth audio, etc. It hangs on those. You must relaunch. Yes that's crazy.

 

[Ralphfromdk]

Fun fact about U-play.

It's so shitty made that if you launch a game the old fashioned way, by just useing the desktop shortcut, the game will log in and play normally, but it will say dick all about any patches.

Now, you may think that it's because it does what Steam does, updates automaticly, right?
Nope nope nope nope nope. You HAVE to launch it via Uplay, who will then promt you to download a 3gig patch before you can do anything else.

But no where does it tell you that. I've been playing with the 1.0 version for days, hunting around any and all Ubisoft sites for a patch link, thinking my Uplay was bugged for not downloading the patch, and being confused that my retail game apparently was the same game that pirates had.


FUUUUUUUUCK YOU UBISOFT.

At least EA made their Steamclone work. You know you dun goofed when EA did it better.

 

[Sillarra]

I BOUGHT, okay, I was GIFTED, the game...

And, BLACK SCREEN!

No game play, just crashing with a black screen.

If you haven't found the workaround yet, unplug all your USB devices except bone simple KB and mouse, especially X360 pad, Logitech G13, wheels, many Razer mice, Bluetooth audio, etc. It hangs on those. You must relaunch. Yes that's crazy.

So what happens if I want to play with my X360 gamepad? I always play FPS with kb/mouse, but sometimes I just want to play with a gamepad, you know?

OT: I have no interest in this game (not even considering pirating it), but last I checked the scene releases are already releasing copies with the latest patch included. So not sure how efficient this anti-piracy method, if it even is one.

 

[ThreeName]

"Yeah, of COURSE we didn't FORGET an FOV slider. No, no, no way! It was a... a FEATURE! Yeah, a feature! To... fight PIRACY! Yes, that's right! And if you try to say anything else you are a damn dirty pirate!"

Dear Lord I laughed at this.

It's so true. Fucking Ubisoft, man.

 

[HardkorSB]

Day one patch, eh?
What if someone only plays offline?
Fuck them, I guess.

 

[EHKOS]

I've got a good twelve-ish hours in with no problems on PS3 other than needing to get the Co-op trophy.

But now I'm scared so I think I'll be backing up my save data.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

While pirates will probably work out a way to incorporate the patch/fix whatever, it's still clever. I think Game Dev Tycoon and Batman: Arkham Asylum both did something similar also. The former made it such that any games output in GDT woud eventually be pirated and the player unable to succeed. In the latter, Batman couldn't activate his glide ability or something at a point in the game where it was required.

I'm very glad that FC4 evidently HAS an FoV slider in game. Frankly if a game doesn't have it I'm not going to play it. Default console FoVs are awful on a PC (Sleeping Dogs is an example of this, Mafia 2 as well). I'm glad to see more and more games starting to have it in game (like Bioshock Infinite, BL2, FC3). It's always a hassle to have to dig through ini/cfg/bin files or find a 3rd party mod/program. And for an FPS especially it's crucial.

Anyway, Ubisoft did something clever. They're still bastards, holding their games back from Steam, putting microtransactions into full priced games, unable to make games that run at 1080p/60fps (despite it being the par du jours on the PC), regurgitating the same game year after year, lying, marketing trickery, review embargoes and forced uPlay. And that's just what I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[SecondPrize]

Sooo... punishing offline players to prevent piracy? Classy

It's ubisoft, i'll be damned surprised if anyone can play at all without connecting once through uplay or some such bullshit.

 

[Strazdas]

1. Complains about riduculous FOV handling is coming from legitimate costumers too. When you increase FOV in FC4 you get this: http://i.imgur.com/wy3Klzz.jpg

2. Offline players will not have day1 patch. Besides, something like a FOV slider should have been in the alpha build, not as a patch. you have completely and utterly fail at videogame developing if you think FOV is optional.

3. Do you know what always happens with DRM like this? Legitimate costumers get burned (according to ars technia for example someties up to 22% of legitimate costumers, thats a lot) while pirates have already fixed this.

This is the type of DRM that I think is best. Pirate the game, you get a crippled version of it. Maybe even have the game crash any time you try to open it, something like that. That way you don't need to be always online, you don't need some draconian DRM or Uplay, or anything else. It's simple, effective, and you can figure out who's a pirate and who isn't by what they say.

Ah, yes. great DRM. plenty of false positives for legitimate costumers, pirates fix it day 1. so effective.

I BOUGHT, okay, I was GIFTED, the game...

And, BLACK SCREEN!

No game play, just crashing with a black screen.

Unplug any USB device. apperently that causes the black screen. because Ubisoft.

Yes Ubisoft, you taught those naughty pirates who is boss!, at least until one person with a lot of time in its hands cracks the code in a few months and makes you look like a complete fool that is.

Im sorry buy "few months"? Its already cracked.

 

[FalloutJack]

Zip

So basically, the only people who can play the game right now (properly, that is) would be the pirates.

Good work, Ubi! Wonderful preparation and loading procedures across the board. Ah, one problem though: Shouldn't the cannons be pointed away from your faces? Seems a bit daft, otherwise.

 

[FirstNameLastName]

"Yeah, of COURSE we didn't FORGET an FOV slider. No, no, no way! It was a... a FEATURE! Yeah, a feature! To... fight PIRACY! Yes, that's right! And if you try to say anything else you are a damn dirty pirate!"

I'm going to have to concur with this, it is possible that they legitimately did do this intentionally, but they can't really complain if people suspect it was just a bug that they are trying their hardest to lampshade as some great gotcha.
Also, if they did do it intentionally then it sounds needlessly vindictive, to potentially cripple your own game with bugs just to what? To make pirates wait an entire hour or two before people upload a patch/fix for this? I bet if i went to download it now there would already be newer torrents of it with this patch included.
As funny as it is when companies pull legitimate tricks, it really is nothing more than a fun joke, i can't imagine people will be deterred by this.

 

[Kaimax]

Now all we have to do is wait until someone releases an unofficial patch to fix the problems with the PC version! (Please don't tell me they already figured out that one too T_T )

They already fixed that. They included the "official patch" that adds the FOV slider, and they also added more as a bonus.

Fixed all the bugs graphics , shadows, normal, not like before dark . Added new gun with graphics settings , such as for some objects , a variety of trees and range coverage , and so on

And to top things off, the torrent that I checked was posted and fixed on the same day.

Ubisoft did nothing clever.

 

[Tanis]

I BOUGHT, okay, I was GIFTED, the game...And, BLACK SCREEN!
No game play, just crashing with a black screen.

Unplug any USB device. apperently that causes the black screen. because Ubisoft.

Yeah, that's why I said 'gifted'.
Because I will NEVER buy a Ubisoft game new, no matter how much I may want it.
I'd rather GameStop or 'that one person on Craigslist' get my money than them.

I HAVE to use a USB mouse and keyboard because I don't have a wireless one.

Plus, I'm tried removes them and then putting them back and...nothing.

It's a shame that Ubisoft has fallen so far.
:/

 

[Strazdas]

Zip

So basically, the only people who can play the game right now (properly, that is) would be the pirates.

Good work, Ubi! Wonderful preparation and loading procedures across the board. Ah, one problem though: Shouldn't the cannons be pointed away from your faces? Seems a bit daft, otherwise.

While i wouldnt be so categorical to say they are the only people right now, but the pirates do can play the game right now.

Them being the only people being able to play it was Asssasins Creed 2 Launch week because Ubisoft servers were down/crashing while pirates emulated the server locally and thus didnt crash.

Pirates being able to play the game better than legal costumers seems to be a tradition with Ubisoft though ever since UdontPLAY launched.

I HAVE to use a USB mouse and keyboard because I don't have a wireless one.

You are still using USB ports for wireless keyboard and mouse, you just got a transmitter at the usb port and in keyboard instead of wires. Though i was under the assumption that keyboards wasnt the devices making blackscreen so the problam may be different here.

 

[Magmarock]

Gee Ubisoft I wander why people are pirating your game. I'm not condoning pricy here, but people aren't not going to through money at you if you treat the consumer like this.

Ubisoft I agree that people shouldn't be pirating your game, but they shouldn't be buying them either. (I will condone boycotts though) What have you done to deserve consumer trust. Can you name one thing. Why should consumer even pay attention to you. the consumer giveth and the consumer taketh away.

Also a lot of people pirate as a way demoing the game. If the demo is shit then the game must be shit right.

 

[DataSnake]

Now, you may think that it's because it does what Steam does, updates automaticly, right?
Nope nope nope nope nope. You HAVE to launch it via Uplay, who will then promt you to download a 3gig patch before you can do anything else.

Ah yes, an anti-piracy measure that means people who buy physical copies either get the crippled version or have to do a 3-gig download (which, if your internet is as shitty as mine, could take on the order of NINE HOURS) before playing the game they FUCKING PAID FOR.

 

[Dandark]

Usually I'd just believe the dev but after all of the bullshit Ubisoft has been spewing everywhere I am more inclined to believe this was a missing feature that they just barely managed to add to a patch on time, especially since the FOV slider is apparently terrible

 

[CrystalShadow]

This is the type of DRM that I think is best. Pirate the game, you get a crippled version of it. Maybe even have the game crash any time you try to open it, something like that. That way you don't need to be always online, you don't need some draconian DRM or Uplay, or anything else. It's simple, effective, and you can figure out who's a pirate and who isn't by what they say.

Eh, it sounds more reasonable than it is.

To get this kind of stuff to work, you either have to deliberately leak a crippled version of the game, or you have to code a lot of deliberate mistakes into the game, then have a way of disabling them.

The combination of all the extra code, as well as the mechanisms needed to disable all those extra 'cripple features' makes the game less reliable, and runs the risk that these things could affect legitimate users as well, simply because there is no foolproof method to actually determine with certainty which version is legitimate, and which is not.
You can create things that work most of the time, but probably not all of the time. And the mere fact that there is code in the game deliberately crippling something, automatically means you've deliberately introduced the possibility of annoying bugs...

 

[CaitSeith]

Nice measure. Too bad that hackers will probably create a mod for fixing that...