No 'Him' or 'Her' in Preschool. Wait, what?

[Artina89]

The only way to answer this is... ready for it? "people are idiots"

Over here it's considered racist to say blackboard (Oh, and get this... you all know about black pudding right? probably one of the greatest foods to exist... nope, they are now called blood cakes, seriously, a butcher told me this, that they had to label them as blood cakes now... I mean... seriously?!?! but back on topic) and whiteboard... instead it's chalkboard or drawingboard, people are simply idiots, there is honestly no other way I can think of saying it.

Really? Blood cakes? That sounds really unappetizing. I mean, I know that's what it essentially is, but still... It's like the whole "Rainbow sheep" instead of "Black sheep" debacle, or like the time one of my teachers shouted at me for saying "Brainstorm" when a group I was in was sharing ideas, because a "brain storm" is what happens when people have seizures.

 

[cobra_ky]

Ahh the pussification of our society knows no borders. I hate it when people fail to realize that there are differences in gender, thinking that men and women are the same in every sense but biologically. In terms of legal rights, I'm ok with that idea, but socially the differences are on par with cats and dogs. Guys gravitate to different things than girls, and react differently to situations.

Case and point. One time I was particularly over-served at a friends house. I was sitting on one of those high chairs, the ones that you can put your feet up on, and my friend said I looked a bit pale. On cue I threw up, falling forward off the chair and smacking my head on the pool table in front of me before landing on my face. The boys laughed and the girls screamed.

Sorry about your head. Pool tables aren't very forgiving.

First off, It's comforting to know that I'm not the only person who uses the word "pussification". Secondly, I absolutely agree, differences in gender do go far beyond anatomy and genetic construct. Men and women tend to behave and respond to different situations differently from one another. This isn't just because of genetics; gender roles in one form or another have been around for literally tens of thousands of years. You can't just undo stuff that's essentially been hardwired into us since the origins of civilization.

Yes, you can easily undo that stuff, because those things aren't hardwired at all. Have a racist grandparent? Are their children racist? Are you?

It turns out that it doesn't really matter what kind of society your ancestors were raised in. The culture you're raised in is going to define your values.

Personally, i don't find vomiting or head injury particularly entertaining. i think that says more about Kanlic's friends than it does about men and women as a whole.

Also, is it just me, or does this seem like a huge suppression of individuality. Boys can't be boys, girls can't be girls, we all have to (ominously) be... "friends". *shudder*

it's just you. no one's saying "boys can't be boys" or "girls can't be girls". all they're saying is you don't have to be the boy or girl society expects you to be.

You're not a fucking victim, stop acting like it. "Our society places more advantages for boys than girls, so let's obliterate gender roles." FFFFFFFUU- no, must maintain civility. This isn't the way to go about this. It's like seeking to end racism by obliterating the idea of race. Retarded right? Want to fix society? Make men and women equals, not say there aren't men and women. Gender roles originated from physical differences between males and females. There ARE physical differences between sexes, any 6 year old can tell you that.

like i've said before and i'll say again:

"Egalia doesn't deny the biological differences between boys and girls ? the dolls the children play with are anatomically correct."

it's almost like some people don't read the article before they respond to it.

They gave 6 year olds anatomically correct dolls? That doesn't seem right.

Eh, for all i know that means Barbies. (though i kind of doubt they'd have something that unrealistic at this school.) The point is that no one is suggesting that there aren't differences between biological sexes.

 

[paintman]

I don't think this matters. Calling this a "made up" term is stupid because all words are made up at some point. Otherwise we would all still be banging rocks together.

I believe gender roles AND the idea of gender in general are archaic. They cause people who are a certain sex to feel alienated by their same sex peers if they like things that are stereo-typically enjoyed by a different sex. (keeping in mind that sex, like the idea of gender can be spread across the spectrum from male to female)

 

[SD-Fiend]

words

You may notice I've said several times I want people to choose for themselves what they are, not us label them. Not once have I said people shouldn't be allowed to identify themselves as a sex or gender. If someone feels in their mind they are male, I will call them male. If they feel female, I will call them female. Feel like a male but want to be a girl? I'll call you a girl. Feel like none of them fit? Okay. That's fine. I'll call you intersexed if you don't mind. Don't want that? I'll just go by your name until (if) you ever decide on a title you like. Feel like lots of things? Fine again.

I'm not against people being who they are, be it male, female, both or neither. I'm against telling people what they are and treating them like a sex or gender that we've decided for them, before they've even had to chance to choose for themselves.

People are just people. Be whatever you want. It doesn't matter to me; you'll still be you and I'll treat you the exact same as everyone else.

so if i'm a person but feel like i'm a dog then i'm a dog?