No Right Answer: Green Lantern Corps vs the Jedi

[theheroofaction]

Alright, let me weigh in on my opinion on this thing.

Okay, first off, they both take some pretty nasty measures in recruiting. That being that, greenlanterndom is forced while Jediism is indoctrination.

However, Entering the green lantern corp you literally don't have to do much of anything even remotely objectionable, some pretty standard heroics, while joining the jedi involves a pretty strict philosophy, which as you know, had some negative consequences.

On that same note, being a jedi is a burden, while being a green lantern, due to their less defined nature, can be very much an opportunity, it gives you powers you can actually use, which tends to be a lot better on their members.

Moreover, the jedi order lies about their methods. They preach about nonviolent solutions and yet their first resort when faced with a problem is to shove a sword up its ass. The GLC is both decidedly open about their violent nature and less brutal than the jedi order.

So yeah I'm gonna have to go with the GLC on this one.

 

[fatguy925]

White lantern =/= good, it is life... white lantern scarecrow yah.. good?
Green is more noble lol, it has more gray area to do good, and there have been jedi to corrupt their powers and think they are better then others, and noble is more like u are picked, and yet u do not care...

 

[Something Amyss]

However, Entering the green lantern corp you literally don't have to do much of anything even remotely objectionable, some pretty standard heroics, while joining the jedi involves a pretty strict philosophy, which as you know, had some negative consequences.

In fact, the Jedi practically embody the notion that all that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. of course, in this case it's more good men, women, and small green things, but still.

I don't know as much about the Green Lantern corps, but they always seemed to at least be more proactive than the Jedi.

Moreover, the jedi order lies about their methods. They preach about nonviolent solutions and yet their first resort when faced with a problem is to shove a sword up its ass. The GLC is both decidedly open about their violent nature and less brutal than the jedi order.

I think that's more bad writing than anything else. And Lucas' short attention span. "Okay guys, I just wrote this brilliant political analogue to the PATRIOT ACT, now let's do some swordfighting! PEW! PEW! NYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

 

[Eri]

Oh yeah, the Green lanterns and their creators are totally noble, I mean tearing out someone's internal organs and personality to replace them with robotics and a power battery to act as their internal police is totally justifiable.

And the Manhunter robots? Stroke of genius!

/Sarcasm.

Yes because they totally do that without the persons consent.

 

[talideon]

Uncool Christina Ricci dig! Ok, so her head might be slightly disproportionally big compared to her body, but she's tiny, and what a head and what a body!

 

[talideon]

Green Lantern Corps are powerless against Lemons.

Well, the Green Lantern movie pretty much proved that!

 

[kwagamon]

I knew the moment I saw the question who would win, however I was hoping for the Green Lanterns. Being a Jedi is basically just an in-universe turning on of all the cheats. While Lanterns aren't significantly better, they at least require willpower and intelligence to use their powers. Jedi just need a clear mind or some such stupid.

 

[Stalydan]

Both groups have their evil exception. Green Lantern Corps has Sinestro, Jedi has everyone who has been tempted to and joined the Sith. Only difference is Sinestro went off and started his own not-so-noble group, the Sinestro Corps (or the Yellow Lanters, whichever you want to call 'em) and the Jedi's evil counterpart has always been around. I think I'd have to give it to the Jedi, though, since in the new 52, the Guardians are rapidly becoming the most evil bastards in the universe, according to what I hear.

However, could you imagine this guy with both a ring and a lightsaber?

If that guy himself imagines that he has a lightsaber... I don't know what would happen.

All I can say is thank you DC for not giving Booster Gold a power ring. Ever.

 

[NovaCascade]

Samuel L Jackson

Purple Lightsaber

Argument over

 

[dystopiaINC]

hmm, i like the jedi more honestly.

The Jedi are strict and i think that's where they cause a loot of their problems. they have to many rules. the lock down on emotions is something that people have a very hard time with, and being good and in the light doesn't require killing off your emotions like the jedi think. however i also see just WHY the do it to. the do it because people like Vader exist. he whole romance with Padme could have worked out but emotions like fear for the future got the better of him.

going by Revan and Jolee Bindo, you can love and feel emotion, but know the dangers and what to avoid. that's entirety a personal quest that require knowing yourself, who you are and what you could become given the wrong choices. and is a difficult policy to teacher to a whole order. which is why the order chose to just make you detach yourself from the emotions, avoid the whole messy issue altogether. which obviously is not going to work with some people and when your dealing with people like force users going evil has a lot more danger in it for the galaxy.

 

[Ken From Chicago]

This is insane. First of all, Kyle totally undermines his own argument. In the movie, just as in the comics, Hal actually CHOOSES to be a Green Lantern, to fight for truth, justice and the Green Lantern way--NOT because some old dude said he was born to be a jedi and he had no choice.

Second, even when Hal went all psycho Darth Vader and killed every other Green Lantern to become the supervillain, Parallax--in the comic book version, not the yellow blob pale ripoff of FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER movie "cloud" version of Galactus--even then, he sacrificed his own life to save Earth and the universe in Zero Hour. What did Darth "Annie" Vader do that was noble? Kill some old dude that was attacking his son--nowhere close to noble, not even within ... twelve parsecs.

Chris, you were robbed! Recount! RECOUNT!

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. And every Green Lantern can match the telekinetic powers of the jedi, create their own lightsabers or a million of them if they feel like it, and even withstand jedi mind tricks because they are trained to strengthen their willpower to be a weapon.

 

[Alar]

I'm gonna go with... Jedi using Green Lantern rings.

Because that sounds ridiculously awesome and overpowered.

 

[vxicepickxv]

However, could you imagine this guy with both a ring and a lightsaber?

I haven't kept up too much with him, but how many different colored rings did he ever have?

I know green, yellow, and red, but has he had any other colors too?

 

[lordjiggly]

I'm gonna go with... Jedi using Green Lantern rings.

Because that sounds ridiculously awesome and overpowered.

UNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAH!!!!!

 

[Grahav]

Do you want to go with the Green Lanterns, and gain a ring which allows you to make your imagination manifest?

Or do you want to join the Jedi, gain a glowy sword, and become an emotionless robot, because every single feeling you have (love, hate, happiness, sadness) is inevitably a path to the Dark Side?

Tough choice.

The guardians of the universe are Jedi XD

But both orders shared the terrible fate of the modern movies. I think we all know who were the ultimate evil responsible for those:

Spoiler

 

[RTR]

Considering that both the Jedi and the GL Corps have their evil counterparts (Yellow Lanterns and Sith respectively) I wouldn't say that either is incorruptable.
All things considered, Lanters are pretty great, but Jedi still wins for me.

 

[Ilja Lyubimov]

Stupid spandex-wearing chubs from comics versus noble warriors of skill and wisdom?

yes the answer is JEDI FOR THE SAKE OF FUCK

 

[Lunar Templar]

i'm a be the dick and lead off with

both suck.

the Lanterns get a ring that gives them the ability to manifest what ever out of light, but it runs on AAs (or maybe a motorcycle batter with how big the batters them selves are) -.- and your weakness if a fucking COLOR -.- great i'd have to watch out for caution signs and oh, my biggest enemy, specializes in it.

the Jedi are 'badasses' with cool swords and neat powers ..... that have only ever been cool them selves in the NON CANNON games (Force Unleashed. or, how the force should have been to start with) and your not aloud to have any kind of a life, or any kind of joy cause that could lead to the 'dark side'.

Just to clarify, we're arguing over number two right? Exactly, we all know the Grey Knights are the noblest order around, and then the Adeptus Custodes and THEN the Jedi. Ok, clarified, carry on.

sounds like we're arguing over #3 by your listing
Grey Knights
Adeptus Custodes
then, the doods with the glow-sticks, and no personality

 

[FernandoV]

The fat ginger sort've annoys the hell out of me -.-

Lanterns all the way though.

 

[BrotherRool]

Moreover, the jedi order lies about their methods. They preach about nonviolent solutions and yet their first resort when faced with a problem is to shove a sword up its ass. The GLC is both decidedly open about their violent nature and less brutal than the jedi order.

So yeah I'm gonna have to go with the GLC on this one.

This one clinched it for me, the indoctrination didn't bother me so much because the Jedi code is basically 'be good' which is something parents have a responsibility to indoctrinate their children with anyway (this would be an interesting tangent, if you believe morality exists ie there's some weird un-universally God thing, then the God created morality for you to choose right, so it's good for your children to be moral, on the other hand in creating morality God gave your children a choice (albeit with pretty darn clear hints which one would be better to take) so you've got to think about respecting that. If you believe morality is an outcome of the interactions of society then you believe all morality is indoctrination and indoctrination that benefits mankind and therefore you should indoctrinate your children *If you're finding indoctrination a distasteful word here, replace it with teach and think about that*, if you don't believe in morality at all but are an Ayn Rand, life is finite get the most out of it person, then by indoctrinating your child you're gaining more power over them and thus improving the comfort of your life, so you should indoctrinate your child till the point where it doesn't take too much sacrifice on your part (I don't think many people ever follow through on the logic of this life view in most cases thankfully and unknowinhly adopt one of the above. Rand would probably like to be thought capable of this))

so yeah, getting back on tangent, and all the jedi's say is pretty good, but how they act is a complete contradiction, rather than see any pro-active non-violence we see violence and petty squabbling, so no matter how bad the green laterns are, the jedi only pretend to be noble