No Right Answer: Most Uninteresting Game Genre
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Someone needed to play more Bloodbowl and Quidditch =D
It's hard to tell because I like sports, whereas I'm not a car person, but at least sports games are pretty easy topick up and play and are relatively dynamic and interesting games to start with (unless you want to play cricket/baseball, but then what you want to do in your spare time is none of my business). The only time racing games are accessible, never mind fun, is when they're super arcadey. If I try to play Gran Turismo it's hard enough going round one bend without flipping out or touching another car or slowing down to 0 miles an hour.
And then if I get round that bend, what am I rewarded with? Another bend to go around. The whole game is literally just going round bends in a giant never ending circle until someone tells you you can stop
It's hard to tell because I like sports, whereas I'm not a car person, but at least sports games are pretty easy topick up and play and are relatively dynamic and interesting games to start with (unless you want to play cricket/baseball, but then what you want to do in your spare time is none of my business). The only time racing games are accessible, never mind fun, is when they're super arcadey. If I try to play Gran Turismo it's hard enough going round one bend without flipping out or touching another car or slowing down to 0 miles an hour.
And then if I get round that bend, what am I rewarded with? Another bend to go around. The whole game is literally just going round bends in a giant never ending circle until someone tells you you can stop
I'm in full agreement with Dan here, because at least Racing games have proven useful to modders in completely different genres. One only needs to see the miles of Forza cars that show up in GTA mods and Garry's mod to prove my point.
Damn I miss NBA Jam and NFL Blitz. I'm also remembering a game called NHL Hitz(?) and I'm guessing they probably made one for MLB and other sports as well. At least those weren't so constrained by reality.
Also, I'm kinda disappointed they didn't mention Twisted Metal when the discussion turned to car combat.
Seems like most people play video games to get away from reality, not be held back by what is "realistic".
Also, I'm kinda disappointed they didn't mention Twisted Metal when the discussion turned to car combat.
Seems like most people play video games to get away from reality, not be held back by what is "realistic".
As a whole Sports Games can be more uninteresting. But for the most uninteresting sport you'd have to go to the motor sport that is NASCAR.
I can have fun with a Monster Truck game where all you do is jump over or flatten already damaged vehicles. I can have fun with a motocross game where I can do all sorts of stunts. Illegal Street Racing still pretty fun though its getting sucked up into Sand Box Games.
But NASCAR? Okay here is a motor sport game where all you do is race around a oval for 3 - 500 Laps; 500 for the people who are real hardcore NASCAR fans.... Damn I find the tracks so boring I couldn't keep interested for half a lap. Not to mention you all have the same car but with different advertisements.... So not only does it suck as a game but its trying to bombard you with commercials for crap you don't want.
I can have fun with a Monster Truck game where all you do is jump over or flatten already damaged vehicles. I can have fun with a motocross game where I can do all sorts of stunts. Illegal Street Racing still pretty fun though its getting sucked up into Sand Box Games.
But NASCAR? Okay here is a motor sport game where all you do is race around a oval for 3 - 500 Laps; 500 for the people who are real hardcore NASCAR fans.... Damn I find the tracks so boring I couldn't keep interested for half a lap. Not to mention you all have the same car but with different advertisements.... So not only does it suck as a game but its trying to bombard you with commercials for crap you don't want.
Nonsense and shenanigans! Someone needs to make a game about a sport you can't just go play? There have been a bunch of those! What's more, racing games are sports games! And just because you lot don't like sports does not mean the genre is boring, it means you just don't like sports. How do sports and racing games beat out genres like "God-awful real life job simulator 20XX" or "Something Mama" or any other genre where you have almost no actual gameplay and pretty much no way to lose?
How about Bloodbowl, Footbrawl, Quiddich, Trackmania? Yeash!
How about Bloodbowl, Footbrawl, Quiddich, Trackmania? Yeash!
Strategy thought gets completly screwed by the dice in Blood bowl for better or for worse.Loki_The_Good said:I thought of blood bowl at first too though I'm not sure if it's really a sports game or a sports themed strategy game, but maybe that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. This may be through rose colored glasses but I kind of miss loony toons B-ball for the snes. Not only were you play with loonie toons but they all had special abilities. Nothing like sinking a three pointer from across the court with marvin the martians magnet ball. Or Rough housing with Taz. ... I think that's the problem with the realism kick. We forgot to have fun. Embrace the silly people.Jandau said:Blood Bowl - American Football, with Orcs, Ogres, Zombies and Demons! In turn based! Near zero reality!
Get your chaos minotaur killed by a goblin against all odds? That stuff happens.
But there are more "fun" sports games that dont really exist like that in real life then there are racing games that do something new and/or exiting.
So most boring game genre for me is the racing genre.
Both genres are self-limiting due to their need for a target audience that is a dedicated fan of the subject already. There's little incentive to become an avid Madden or NBA2kwhatever player if you're not already a rabid fan of that sport.
In that regard, I'd say that driving/racing games start off with a smaller fan-base, but are easier to get into.
Mario-Kart is the proof that most racing simulators are a waste of effort by the designer though. Of all the racing games out there, the one that you'd jump back into in an instant (and try to get friends to play) isn't a hyper-realistic modern racing simulator (or an old one) but rather it's the N-64 Mario Kart, which bares no resemblance to any vehicle or race ever made, but is just FUN.
In that regard, I'd say that driving/racing games start off with a smaller fan-base, but are easier to get into.
Mario-Kart is the proof that most racing simulators are a waste of effort by the designer though. Of all the racing games out there, the one that you'd jump back into in an instant (and try to get friends to play) isn't a hyper-realistic modern racing simulator (or an old one) but rather it's the N-64 Mario Kart, which bares no resemblance to any vehicle or race ever made, but is just FUN.
Because those games prove video games can be something more than Ego builders.Gorrath said:
You may find something like Harvest Moon boring but when such mechanics of a game are pulled into a game like Skyrim it actually makes Skyrim more immerse. And what about the person who doesn't want to be killed while playing the parts that have nothing to do with killing? Well there's always Harvest Moon.
hmm, kyle's argument is kind of invalid when talking about arcade racers... this was a onesided battle in my opinion
Kyle loses because of Top Gear on the SNES and Burn Out Revenge on the 360.
Those are awesome games
And mind you, BO: R had great (and evnetually super difficult) racing in it, without the crashing of opponents.
And that STILL was fun!!!
Those are awesome games
And mind you, BO: R had great (and evnetually super difficult) racing in it, without the crashing of opponents.
And that STILL was fun!!!
I think you might mistake my point. I actually own three Harvest Moon games and have great fun with them. I find the planting/growing crops to be cathartic. There is a certain level of subjectivity to this of course, as someone who just finds sports boring isn't likely to enjoy playing Madden. However, I think one can make a good argument that, with all their expanded functionality, modern sports games are as a genre not the snorefest that say "Trash Truck Simulator 20XX" is. This is in no way a condemnation of people who like playing "Euro Bakery Delivery Van Day Job" or "Commercial Flight Simulator 1998", it's simply to point out the dubious claim that the sports genre is somehow more boring than these games tend to be, personal tastes not withstanding.RatGouf said:
There are some genres of games out there that are barely games at all, and while I'd never begrudge someone having fun with them, I would think the overwhelming sales of many of the top sports games shows that a whole lot of people find the genre anything but boring.
Hey Dan they did the whole sport you can't actually play back in the old days (remember gamecube?) Yeah... This existed:
Also, I just checked ESPN is owned by Disney, and Marvel is owned by Disney.... SO what we could have is an ESPN football game where at halftime DocOc kidnaps the reff and then you suddenly have to do a mini game (as Peter Parker, who was of course selling pizza in the stands at the Jets game) to rescue the referee.
Come on Disney, you can make that happen combine your ESPN and Marvel franchises!!!
Also, I just checked ESPN is owned by Disney, and Marvel is owned by Disney.... SO what we could have is an ESPN football game where at halftime DocOc kidnaps the reff and then you suddenly have to do a mini game (as Peter Parker, who was of course selling pizza in the stands at the Jets game) to rescue the referee.
Come on Disney, you can make that happen combine your ESPN and Marvel franchises!!!
First episode ever I've closed without finishing. You guys came off as very ignorant here. Sure, people are allowed to voice their opinion. But this was like me explaining to Richard Feynman why I don't like particle physics. Just embarrassing.