Why do you people, and by you people I mean literally everyone who says "just use a black super hero", not seem to understand that Miles Motherfuckin Morales IS a black super hero. Don't tell me he's off in the ultimate timeline. Black Nick Goddamned Fury was too and nobody pitches a fit when Sammy laces up his boots.tzimize said:Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
However the trick about Samuel L being the ultimate Nick Fury was, that he still played Nick Fury. Beside being an all time great actor, he didn't play a character that needed loads of backing to fit into the universe; he really was "Just" Nick Fury (... that happen to be black).2HF said:Why do you people, and by you people I mean literally everyone who says "just use a black super hero", not seem to understand that Miles Motherfuckin Morales IS a black super hero. Don't tell me he's off in the ultimate timeline. Black Nick Goddamned Fury was too and nobody pitches a fit when Sammy laces up his boots.tzimize said:Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
Maybe we've seen Peter Sonofabitchin Parker enough. Maybe we want to see Miles. Maybe we know that we won't get a stand alone Miles movie because who the balls is that? Maybe we know damn well that plopping him into the MCU means instant recognition and adoration for a character nobody has even heard of. Maybe that!
To the 'plenty of them' idea, you'd be surprised [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_superheroes#Marvel_Comics]. In that list, a lot of those people are dead, marking the few times that a comic book death sticks. From the few still alive, they either have no powers or they are just copies of other heroes. Blue Marvel and Power Man are some of the few that stick out.tzimize said:Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
I'm sorry, are you under the impression that anyone wants a black actor to play Peter Parker? We want a black actor to play Miles who just happens to be called Spider-man, and who happens to be black.Solomon said:However the trick about Samuel L being the ultimate Nick Fury was, that he still played Nick Fury. Beside being an all time great actor, he didn't play a character that needed loads of backing to fit into the universe; he really was "Just" Nick Fury (... that happen to be black).
She would be and aunt and a spider! xDTrishbot said:Rosemary Harris should return as the Amazing Spider-Ma'am!
Here's the thing to that.Solomon said:However the trick about Samuel L being the ultimate Nick Fury was, that he still played Nick Fury. Beside being an all time great actor, he didn't play a character that needed loads of backing to fit into the universe; he really was "Just" Nick Fury (... that happen to be black).
With Miles it's different; not that it couldn't be done, I just really fail to see why? Peter to me will always be Spider-man, would be sad to see him fade away just because of two, maybe three bad movies, in order of bringer the new hip guy in.
I'm indifferent one way or the other about Spider Man being black or white, although I can't even imagine anyone but SLJ being Fury, but I ask you this. Would it be better to drop a character almost no one knows anything about (origin, character, anything) into a collaboration movie or wait until he can get his own? What if Thor had just kindda shown up in The Avengers? Honestly, I think the best bet is to have Parker in this one and if it goes well see about switching them when Marvel has time to do a dedicated Spider Man film.2HF said:Why do you people, and by you people I mean literally everyone who says "just use a black super hero", not seem to understand that Miles Motherfuckin Morales IS a black super hero. Don't tell me he's off in the ultimate timeline. Black Nick Goddamned Fury was too and nobody pitches a fit when Sammy laces up his boots.
Maybe we've seen Peter Sonofabitchin Parker enough. Maybe we want to see Miles. Maybe we know that we won't get a stand alone Miles movie because who the balls is that? Maybe we know damn well that plopping him into the MCU means instant recognition and adoration for a character nobody has even heard of. Maybe that!
Please, by all means, give me a Miles Motherfuckin Morales stand alone movie. I'll still have to have this same argument then because whenever the idea is proposed on this board people ***** about the fact that it should just be Peter Sonofabitchin Parker again. Yes, I've decided those are their names now.Sarge034 said:Would it be better to drop a character almost no one knows anything about (origin, character, anything) into a collaboration movie or wait until he can get his own?
There's only one way they can do that, and I think it would be a great series. Because I just invented it.2HF said:That being said, they're never going to make a Mile Morales stand alone movie until it's proven that the character can make money. So I ask you where can a big movie studio introduce a new character and virtually guarantee that people both notice and like him with minimal risk of alienating audiences. How about a movie where a bunch of name brand heroes take center stage and some upstart kid has a small but pivotal role and can make his stamp. Matter of fact, where have we seen this before? Days of future past did an absolutely brilliant job with Quicksilver's small role. Not to suggest they'll now make a stand alone Quicksilver movie, the character isn't that big. But Miles has the added advantage of having a name brand associated with his super hero persona. Names get no bigger than Spider-Man.