No Right Answer: Who Should Be Spider-Man?

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Who Should Be Spider-Man?

We've just learned a possible director for the Marvel/Sony Spider-man, and now it's up to No Right Answer to decide who to cast. That's right, Hollywood comes to us for answers, and we deliver.

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That Donald Glover, though...

OT: I was thinking Drake Bell since he basically played a character that parodied Spider-Man already... Other than that, what about Freddie Highmore from The Spiderwick Chronicles?

Also, I just realized that Spider-Man 3 is hiding in the corner the whole time... Poor movie... It only had the Sandman origin going for it, I guess...
 

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Martin Sheen. Duh.

Full disclosure: I think Martin Sheen should play everybody in every movie ever. I will watch literally anything with Martin Sheen in it.
 

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Morgan Freeman as Miles Morales = Win
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I have no idea who should play spidey to be honest...
 

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Dan, you're WAY off on this. There are defiantly some dramatic moments in the Marvel universe, and even if some of the characters were model-pretty, they had that CHARM that you need.

Thor-Chris is model pretty, but he had a GREAT voice for the character and played him flawlessly. Also the funny moments.

Cap-Chris is model pretty, and he had a similarly boring character to play. But he did what he was supposed to, and did it good.

RDJ is good looking, but he's also rugged, charming and a bit too old for the tween crowd. And he did a 10/10 job on IM.

Tobey worked so well as spider-man because spider-man is supposed to be the kid that was probably a bit picked on. Tobey can pull that off. Franco couldnt convince me that he has been picked on a second in his entire existence to save his life. And thus we would head into Garfield-territory agiain. And NOBODY wants to go here.

Kyle, your suggestion...his imminent look is better, but I dont remember anything of that guy. That might not be a bad thing, but spider-man, as the rest of the marvel cast is going to win or lose depending on if he's written well.

Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
 

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tzimize said:
Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
Why do you people, and by you people I mean literally everyone who says "just use a black super hero", not seem to understand that Miles Motherfuckin Morales IS a black super hero. Don't tell me he's off in the ultimate timeline. Black Nick Goddamned Fury was too and nobody pitches a fit when Sammy laces up his boots.

Maybe we've seen Peter Sonofabitchin Parker enough. Maybe we want to see Miles. Maybe we know that we won't get a stand alone Miles movie because who the balls is that? Maybe we know damn well that plopping him into the MCU means instant recognition and adoration for a character nobody has even heard of. Maybe that!
 

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Well, you have certainly succeeded in making me want Logan Lerman in that role now!
 

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2HF said:
tzimize said:
Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
Why do you people, and by you people I mean literally everyone who says "just use a black super hero", not seem to understand that Miles Motherfuckin Morales IS a black super hero. Don't tell me he's off in the ultimate timeline. Black Nick Goddamned Fury was too and nobody pitches a fit when Sammy laces up his boots.

Maybe we've seen Peter Sonofabitchin Parker enough. Maybe we want to see Miles. Maybe we know that we won't get a stand alone Miles movie because who the balls is that? Maybe we know damn well that plopping him into the MCU means instant recognition and adoration for a character nobody has even heard of. Maybe that!
However the trick about Samuel L being the ultimate Nick Fury was, that he still played Nick Fury. Beside being an all time great actor, he didn't play a character that needed loads of backing to fit into the universe; he really was "Just" Nick Fury (... that happen to be black).
With Miles it's different; not that it couldn't be done, I just really fail to see why? Peter to me will always be Spider-man, would be sad to see him fade away just because of two, maybe three bad movies, in order of bringer the new hip guy in.
 
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tzimize said:
Miles morales..? MEH. If you're gonna do spider-man, do spider-man. If you want a black guy in the avengers, use a black super-hero. There are plenty of them. My 2?.
To the 'plenty of them' idea, you'd be surprised [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_superheroes#Marvel_Comics]. In that list, a lot of those people are dead, marking the few times that a comic book death sticks. From the few still alive, they either have no powers or they are just copies of other heroes. Blue Marvel and Power Man are some of the few that stick out.

Due to that, Miles Morales is Spider-Man. Whatever Biases or 'hate of PC' people love to quote, he is Spider-man. Just as Black Nick Fury is Nick Fury, Crazy Cannibal Hulk is Hulk, And New Ultron is Tony Stark's Baby instead of Hank Pym. They are the versions that Marvel signed off on.
 

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Solomon said:
However the trick about Samuel L being the ultimate Nick Fury was, that he still played Nick Fury. Beside being an all time great actor, he didn't play a character that needed loads of backing to fit into the universe; he really was "Just" Nick Fury (... that happen to be black).
I'm sorry, are you under the impression that anyone wants a black actor to play Peter Parker? We want a black actor to play Miles who just happens to be called Spider-man, and who happens to be black.
 

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Rosemary Harris should return as the Amazing Spider-Ma'am!
She would be and aunt and a spider! xD

OT: If Marvel really wants to do it up, they should have both the Peter Parker Spider-man, then bring in the Miles Morales Spider-man.

......Yeah, I mean like that......Marvel....DO IT.... >:D

People would lose it in the best of ways. xD
 
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Solomon said:
However the trick about Samuel L being the ultimate Nick Fury was, that he still played Nick Fury. Beside being an all time great actor, he didn't play a character that needed loads of backing to fit into the universe; he really was "Just" Nick Fury (... that happen to be black).
With Miles it's different; not that it couldn't be done, I just really fail to see why? Peter to me will always be Spider-man, would be sad to see him fade away just because of two, maybe three bad movies, in order of bringer the new hip guy in.
Here's the thing to that.

Miles Morales is the one the few Spider Clones that really stuck. Other than Mayday Parker.

What bothers me so much is that how people give Mayday Parker more claim to validity and say 'If we're going to change Spiderman, change it to her! She has legitimate reason to have Spider Powers, being Spiderman's daughter."

She does indeed. It just happens to be the same reason that Miles has a reason to have Spider powers. Because it's an alternative Continuity and that's how that Universe just happened to be. Yeah, Mayday comes from Earth-982. Miles is a Earth-1610 native, bitten by the spider that gave that Earth's Peter Parker his powers. Peter is apart of the main continuity, Earth 616.

Although there is little talk about Anya Corazon, who is actually apart of the mainstream continuity. Or Silk, who was bitten by the same damn Spider that bit our 616 Peter.

Look, we can focus on how Miles' looks, or we can focus on the context of his storyline. I don't know you, Ace, but I find very few people who actually have an issue with Miles actually read his comics. Again, this is not directed to you, but for those people who decry changing Peter to Miles because of the shock value or PC bull of a race shake up... but do not take time to read the comics to see if it's actually good? They are just as guilty as needless race shake up by not even giving the stories a chance.

Like they always say, Race shouldn't matter. Character does. Then let's read these things and find out the character before we take one obvious difference and make it to be the entire issue.

Lastly, as to why? While we were brought up with these heroes, they really don't make that much since any more. In terms of how do you fit all of this backstory in while the character are still what... 25? 29? All these things and events that all the characters share would have to have happened in just one day to cram it all in there.

Remember, before Spiderman hit it big... Comics were dying. Sales were at a record low. These blockbuster movies have brought back not just old time fans, but new fans who are wondering what is what.

New Characters taking up the mantle of big names gives people who are younger and/or just getting into comics to take in the Marquee without having to wonder how can there be 52 years of back story for someone who's at tops 29

captcha: Gadzooks.

It's fucking with me. It really is.
 

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Honestly, I want Miles just because I'm sick of freakin' Parker - we've never had a really great Parker, we just thought the first trilogy was great because we hadn't seen Iron Man/Avengers/Scott Pilgrim/V for Vendetta quality movies yet.
 

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Dylan O'Brien.

He plays Stiles on Teen Wolf. He's already snarky, he looks the part, and he plays the badass normal to the werewolves. Plus, technically he's already fought the lizard!
 

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2HF said:
Why do you people, and by you people I mean literally everyone who says "just use a black super hero", not seem to understand that Miles Motherfuckin Morales IS a black super hero. Don't tell me he's off in the ultimate timeline. Black Nick Goddamned Fury was too and nobody pitches a fit when Sammy laces up his boots.

Maybe we've seen Peter Sonofabitchin Parker enough. Maybe we want to see Miles. Maybe we know that we won't get a stand alone Miles movie because who the balls is that? Maybe we know damn well that plopping him into the MCU means instant recognition and adoration for a character nobody has even heard of. Maybe that!
I'm indifferent one way or the other about Spider Man being black or white, although I can't even imagine anyone but SLJ being Fury, but I ask you this. Would it be better to drop a character almost no one knows anything about (origin, character, anything) into a collaboration movie or wait until he can get his own? What if Thor had just kindda shown up in The Avengers? Honestly, I think the best bet is to have Parker in this one and if it goes well see about switching them when Marvel has time to do a dedicated Spider Man film.

As for who should play Spider Man... Imma haveta agree with Asa Butterfield for Parker and Tyler James Williams as Miles.
 

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Would it be better to drop a character almost no one knows anything about (origin, character, anything) into a collaboration movie or wait until he can get his own?
Please, by all means, give me a Miles Motherfuckin Morales stand alone movie. I'll still have to have this same argument then because whenever the idea is proposed on this board people ***** about the fact that it should just be Peter Sonofabitchin Parker again. Yes, I've decided those are their names now.

That being said, they're never going to make a Mile Morales stand alone movie until it's proven that the character can make money. So I ask you where can a big movie studio introduce a new character and virtually guarantee that people both notice and like him with minimal risk of alienating audiences. How about a movie where a bunch of name brand heroes take center stage and some upstart kid has a small but pivotal role and can make his stamp. Matter of fact, where have we seen this before? Days of future past did an absolutely brilliant job with Quicksilver's small role. Not to suggest they'll now make a stand alone Quicksilver movie, the character isn't that big. But Miles has the added advantage of having a name brand associated with his super hero persona. Names get no bigger than Spider-Man.
 

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My problem with Morales remains the same as it was before. I think he would be a good Spider-Man in a movie, but he needs to be the second Spider-Man, after Peter Parker dies. Given Marvel's long term movie plans, and assuming continued cooperation from Sony(or even a full relinquishment of rights in a best case scenario), I would rather see a Marvel-led Peter Parker run that lasts a couple of movies, ending in his death and subsequent succession by Morales.

I mean, you could just throw Morales in there, but without a prior existing Parker, his back story and much of his motivation would be completely changed, and you'd just be throwing him in there to fill some race quota, rather than because his character fit. I'd rather have a black Parker than a shoehorned Morales.
 
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Honestly. For all the people who keep talking about the race of Miles Morales... How long are you going to keep deaf to what we're saying that we actually like Miles as a character and/or blind to the fact that you are the ones who are mainly concerned about race here?

Is it that hard to admit that people like actually like Miles or is it that hard to admit that no one cares about being PC or the race issue as much as yourselves?

I'm not really trying to be mean or anything, but it seems like we're yelling "MILES IS A GOOD CHARACTER" and the rest really seems not to care about that... just how he looks.

2HF said:
That being said, they're never going to make a Mile Morales stand alone movie until it's proven that the character can make money. So I ask you where can a big movie studio introduce a new character and virtually guarantee that people both notice and like him with minimal risk of alienating audiences. How about a movie where a bunch of name brand heroes take center stage and some upstart kid has a small but pivotal role and can make his stamp. Matter of fact, where have we seen this before? Days of future past did an absolutely brilliant job with Quicksilver's small role. Not to suggest they'll now make a stand alone Quicksilver movie, the character isn't that big. But Miles has the added advantage of having a name brand associated with his super hero persona. Names get no bigger than Spider-Man.
There's only one way they can do that, and I think it would be a great series. Because I just invented it.

The way you prove Miles can be a commodity is by making a cartoon. It seems they always put a new cartoon around to test the waters anyway, so do it this way.

Pick 3 to 5 main 616 heroes. Whisk them away via inter-dimensional fuckery. Have them replaced by alternate earth versions of themselves. Not just them, but family too. Have the alternate earth heroes know they don't belong on Earth 616, but keep their families and others in the dark. inter-dimensional magic you see. Have them juggle trying to fit into a new universe with a different history, while fulfilling their alternates roles and trying to save them before the big bad finally does away with the main 616.

Ending of the series, the Alternates save the 616 and when they go back home.. Boom. Their movies start.

I'm giving you this stuff for free, Hollywood. Make. Good.