Notch: Minecraft is Full of Hermaphrodites

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It's amazing how no matter how much I entirely agree with him, I feel like he's just saying "I'm a douche! I'm a tool!"

Good work Notch, you bastard.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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mad825 said:
Headdrivehardscrew said:
mad825 said:
Headdrivehardscrew said:
This is an argument you best have with yourself for a while.
Personal insults? I never knew you could stoop so low.
Merely a factual statement and a sincerely felt proper response. There's emotions involved so I censored out the passive-aggressive bits, since they do not contribute anything to the discussion and would probably get me banned... from this planet.
If you've got something to say, say it. Stop being a dick.
OK, let me hand you this, with all my sympathy and love. You know we agree on certain things, so let's cope with disagreeing on some other things, without trying to paint the other the enemy, as that's really of no great use to anyone. If you want me banned, I can serve you just that, with sugar and sparkling shit sprinkles on top, but that's not going to be accounted for on the plus side of your karma account.

Instead, have this:

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and this, too:

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Enjoy.
 

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It quite bugs me when people attempt to discredit modern feminism by claiming it's somehow different from the 1st wave, ridiculous, "fake", and has somehow had the false label of feminism given to it. Even more laughably; the idea that it's "purpose is to mess with people's heads, it only serves to make everyone as unhappy and costly as possible"

The fact is modern feminism addresses systemic failures, rather than the conscious philosophical discrimination of the 1st wave (suffragettes and earlier)or the cultural biases of the mid 20th century. To suggest the suffragettes were the last "real" feminists simultaneously suggests to me that one is completely deluded as to what equality means, and that one has likely never read anything of modern feminist literature except that which they get from news blurbs.

It seems to me that the three main backlashes against feminism come from A. The inherent abstraction involved in talking about structural and systemic topics. B. The natural anxiety and resistance to ideas that suggest that whole, large portions of our societies and lives are wrong; and C. The backlash of social conservatism against the destruction of the remaining sexual morals, which is implied by modern feminism.
 

TheDrunkNinja

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Oh.

Thank god.

I certainly have been spending many a sleepless night pondering this all important issue.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
If Steve was really gay he'd tuck in his shirt.
But is "it" into bestiality?
STEREOTYPES GOOD SIR! DO YOU WANT ME TO CLEAN YOUR HOUSE MR BSTrD!?!

drthmik said:
wouldn't a lack of specific gender make everything in Minecraft Asexual rather than Homosexual?
like Sponges

... Sponges... in Minecraft...
Asexuals don't have a drive to have sex, thus the name. The animals in Minecraft reproduce with one another, thus their pretty much homosexual in the way that they are having sex with another of the same gender but it gets confusing when you add in baby animals and yaaay... I pretend its just a adoption agency from the sky that drops them off to their new parents.

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Well played Notch and I like the gay angle in there, it makes me feel special. ^ __ ^

Of course a feminism debate is going to jump out of this and honestly, feminism right now gets a bad rap because many women use it as a excuse to be complete dicks to men, similar to black guys who think their getting back at the "white man" for decades of slavery by treating white guys like shit.
 

VanQ

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I never even gave gender a thought in Minecraft. Not even once. You know why? I just wanted to build shit. Holy fuck, get over this annoying gender politics already. It's not interesting or amusing in the slightest.
 

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
Twilight_guy said:
I'm sorry to tell you this Notch but the idea of 'male as default' is a serious issue and one you can't skirt around by saying 'feminist argument' and 'represents a human being'. You can take no side and wash your hands of it, but its not something you can not be involved in, even if you don't want to be. It's like racism in that no matter what color your character is, someone will cry racism just because he is some color. The only escape is to create something distinctly non-human, like a green skinned alien.
Look.

Back in the days, practically Once Upon A Time, there were real, genuine feminists. Take, for example, the Suffragettes - Women standing their ground to establish women's rights to vote. A very real struggle with a well-defined, real-world aim that served women in a modern society, as well as society as a whole. That's also why the Suffragettes were made up of women of all sorts of political stances, because they were united in their goal. That's pretty rare these days, innit.

The currently rampant BS out in the wild may be labelled "feminism", but it's really only a spin-off project of Communism, which might also employ rebranded diet/light versions like Socialism or Marxism. Ooh, politics! Well, you should be aware of the fact that feminism is but a political crowbar in gift wrap these days.

Its purpose is to mess with people's heads, it only serves to make everyone as unhappy and costly as possible, and it only serves the one purpose to help 'transform', cause chaos and help bring along destabilization of everything not yet ready for the scripted revolution.

So, I stopped playing Minecraft as I consider it a complete waste of time (I've also stopped playing with LEGO some decades ago), but if the kids want to prefer playing virtual LEGO in Minecraft to building something "real" with plastic bricks, hey, who am I to judge? Notch keeps politics out of Minecraft, and the simplified world of Minecraft ain't that bad, methinks.

Also, in reality, the default of all of us is, in fact, the female archetype. Being male is pretty much only a mutation of the female, a hairier, bulkier version carrying its reproductive organs on the outside of the body, so we can adore wieners and so the sperm - as in little squiggly things carrying the stuff we're all made of, including the XXs and XYs - doesn't get too hot. It's all very basic, but it makes us humble brothers and sisters of cats and dogs and bovines and marsupials and snakes and turtles and whatnot. Not slugs, as they are the slimy SM troopers of the animal world, impaling each other with spears while doing it, the dirty little things.
I have no idea what you're on about, but I just wanted to point out how hypocritical it is to jab at Minecraft as a complete waste of time on a video game forum openly called The Escapist. I guess your art games like Braid aren't wastes of time because they're so culturally enriching?
 

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VanQQisH said:
I never even gave gender a thought in Minecraft. Not even once. You know why? I just wanted to build shit. Holy fuck, get over this annoying gender politics already. It's not interesting or amusing in the slightest.
Indeed, I really didnt give it a thought either till this article popped up. Heck, you are able to mod and skin the game with ease, the game was practically made for it! My "steve" is a freaking pony for peat's sake! I really hope the gender politics end here soon, I want people to move on to the next subject to complain about.
 

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I never saw the Minecraft humans as any more gendered than LEGO Minifigs. The only gender they have is the one you give it.
 

Xan Krieger

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VanQQisH said:
I never even gave gender a thought in Minecraft. Not even once. You know why? I just wanted to build shit. Holy fuck, get over this annoying gender politics already. It's not interesting or amusing in the slightest.
^THIS

Minecraft is about building things, not gender. I'm working on my house at sea, I don't care what my character is because it has no effects on gameplay at all. Man, woman, horrible monster, doesn't matter, just let me build things and enjoy myself.

""Also, as a fun side fact, it means every character and animal in Minecraft is homosexual because there's only one gender to choose from," he wrote. "Take THAT, homophobes!""
Actually my character isn't because he has no sexual desires or attractions, take THAT non-homophobe!
 

lacktheknack

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targren said:
Now, about Psychonauts 2...?
?

What would Notch have to say about Psychonauts 2? Tim Schafer's the guy who owns it.

OT: lolwut

How was this ever something to talk about? When I designed a skin for my friend, I made it feminine, because she's a girl, but at no point did she ask for it... because who actually cares?! She was perfectly happy to play as "Steve", as was every other girl who ever bought it...
 

RatRace123

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Meh, I've never considered Steve? to be all that important. He could be a naked, bald, purple thing for all I care, when I play Minecraft I'm playing as myself, not as a specific character.
 

Some_weirdGuy

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Somehow I feel that this is relevant... yet i don't know quite why.


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on a side note:
what gender are the squidwards? and if 'steve' isn't a guy what's with the stubble? XD
 

targren

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lacktheknack said:
targren said:
Now, about Psychonauts 2...?
?

What would Notch have to say about Psychonauts 2? Tim Schafer's the guy who owns it.
A few months back, Notch tweeted to Tim something along the lines of "@TimSchaeffer[footnote]or whatever his twitter handle is[/footnote]: Psychonauts 2. Let's make it happen."
 

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targren said:
Well, there are ways to enjoy Minecraft more than you do, but you're consciously choosing not to employ them.

Hopefully you find your fun elsewhere then.
 

targren

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McMullen said:
targren said:
Well, there are ways to enjoy Minecraft more than you do, but you're consciously choosing not to employ them.

Hopefully you find your fun elsewhere then.
What do you mean? Are you referring to playing PvP (the fun of which is very subjective), because that was the only suggestion that I'm "consciously choosing" to pass on. The rest is, as I said, just a lack of any sense of direction (figuratively and literally. A compass would be great...) in what to even do in the game.
 

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Aprilgold said:
DVS BSTrD said:
If Steve was really gay he'd tuck in his shirt.
But is "it" into bestiality?
STEREOTYPES GOOD SIR! DO YOU WANT ME TO CLEAN YOUR HOUSE MR BSTrD!?!

drthmik said:
wouldn't a lack of specific gender make everything in Minecraft Asexual rather than Homosexual?
like Sponges

... Sponges... in Minecraft...
Asexuals don't have a drive to have sex, thus the name. The animals in Minecraft reproduce with one another, thus their pretty much homosexual in the way that they are having sex with another of the same gender but it gets confusing when you add in baby animals and yaaay... I pretend its just a adoption agency from the sky that drops them off to their new parents.

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Well played Notch and I like the gay angle in there, it makes me feel special. ^ __ ^

Of course a feminism debate is going to jump out of this and honestly, feminism right now gets a bad rap because many women use it as a excuse to be complete dicks to men, similar to black guys who think their getting back at the "white man" for decades of slavery by treating white guys like shit.
You are talking about a completely different definition of asexual
one, I might add, which actually applies more to the animals in Minecraft than Asexual reproduction since the animals are completely disinterested in sex until you drug them with an aphrodisiac.
After some research it looks like the title of the article is the most right
animals in Mincraft are hermaphrodites that reproduce sexually but can do so with any other member of the species since they all carry both sexual organs.

however calling the animals Homosexuals is incorrect, there is no such thing as Homosexual reproduction.
 

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targren said:
McMullen said:
targren said:
Well, there are ways to enjoy Minecraft more than you do, but you're consciously choosing not to employ them.

Hopefully you find your fun elsewhere then.
What do you mean? Are you referring to playing PvP (the fun of which is very subjective), because that was the only suggestion that I'm "consciously choosing" to pass on. The rest is, as I said, just a lack of any sense of direction (figuratively and literally. A compass would be great...) in what to even do in the game.
Well, regarding the wiki as cheating is probably your biggest barrier. In fact, you might want to disregard the concept of cheating altogether for this game. It's not really a thing that applies. You can no more cheat at Minecraft than you can cheat at legos.

PvP is not the only way to play multiplayer. There are many ways to play multiplayer. Personally, I play on a server with friends and family in a cooperative survival mode (usually called SMP or Survival MultiPlayer). But there are many ways to play.

Check out the wiki. They have suggestions for what you can do if you are low on inspiration.