NSA Chooses to Hack Routers over PCs

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NSA Chooses to Hack Routers over PCs


It turns out people around the world forget to update their routers.

Popular misconceptions of hacking imagine hackers sitting in dark basements hitting keys in no specific order, taking control of computers. The NSA laughs at that idea. The agency focuses on attacking routers in foreign countries to monitor and control information. Most of the hacks target communication systems of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, usually concerning the spread of nuclear weapons.

Hacking routers is an ideal way for an intelligence or military agency to maintain a hold on network traffic, Marc Maiffret, chief technology officer at security firm Beyond Trust, said. Routers are rarely updated with new software like systems for PCs. "No one updates their routers," he said, and routers do not have security software that detects breaches.

By hacking a router, one can re-route traffic to a different location. Sometimes intelligence units physically place hardware implants or software modifications rather than working remotely. The CIA's Tailored Access Programs and NSA's software engineers possess "templates" used to infiltrate common brands of routers.

"For folks at a place like the NSA or any other major government intelligence agency, it's pretty standard fare of having a ready-to-go backdoor," Maiffret said.

The government plans to extend its $652 million "Genie" program of hacking to cover millions of additional foreign machines according to a secret document leaked to the Washington Post. Currently, the malware attacks tens of thousands computers and routers each year. The US government treats all cyber operations as covert and does not acknowledge them.

Source: Wired [http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-08-30/world/41620705_1_computer-worm-former-u-s-officials-obama-administration ]

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TiberiusEsuriens

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"Quickly, tell the internet about attacking the evil communists so they'll forget we do THE EXACT SAME THING everywhere else."
- NSA

It is an interesting way of bypassing cyber security, though. People forget that the weakest link in networks is not the computers themselves, but what lies in between.
 

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And I wondered why the new router[footnote]New as in only a few years old, not as in brand new.[/footnote] stopped working.
 

lacktheknack

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<spoiler=An aside>So, what I'm gathering here:

My friend insisted that he sent me an email invitation to his party.

I did not receive the email, causing much sadness.

Router hacking allows rerouting of information.

Ergo, THE NSA STOLE MY PARTY INVITATION! D:

OT: This doesn't really surprise me. Why would they go for sensitive information on secure computers when you can pluck it easily (timestamped with forward and return address!) from the in-between? You're only as good as your weakest link, and your weakest link is what you don't pay attention to, and no one acknowledges the existence of routers.

...OK, I'm a bit surprised that NO ONE has ever updated their router, allowing the NSA to freaking template it. That's just sad, people.
 

flarty

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what ever stops the terrorists like Al Qaeda. Would that be the some Al Qaeda in Syria the west has been funding?
 

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[sub]Damn it NSA, stop stealing my work share with your PSA!*cough*[/sub]

Seriously though, they're right. Routers and "intelligent" end point devices (printers, fax, scanners, bluetooth hubs) are common targets and a good place to look for vulnerabilities simply because they're very easy to overlook.
 

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And this this right here is why I use a custom Kernel for my router. Linux FTW. Does it make me unhackable? HELL NO! Nothing is perfect. But it does make me a more difficult target,and like robbers who wants to go to the difficult house when the same results are at an easier to reach one.
 

Hero in a half shell

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When people rob stores and boast about it on Facebook we call them idiots and the police arrest them.

What do we do when the Government hacks its citizens possessions, spies and steals their information, and then boasts about it online?
 
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flarty said:
what ever stops the terrorists like al Qaeda. Would that be the some al Qaeda in syriabthe west has been funding?
Yes, because most Afghani caves are equipped with high-end routers. And since when is Al-Queda based in Russia, China or North-Korea?
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Any network admin that doesn't do firmware updates should be fired. At home users who don't know what firmware is, well... I can't say much because it would just be a rant on how people tend to think computers do everything by themselves and apply that wrong thinking to the peripherals that go along with it.
Sigh...
 

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Still, when the Chinese hack shit then OMFGYOUBASTARDSHOWDAREYOUFASCISTCHINKBASTARDS. But when the 'Muricans do it, it's okay - because they're the good guys.
 

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Anyone else find this ramp up in cyber warfare scary? I suppose on one hand you could say it was inevitably, but coming from a country that doesn't try to project a global military (Canada) I can stall call out US/China/Russia for being a bunch of assholes.

Just picture the typical internet equation, normal person + anonymity + audience = asshole. Now imagine a big military general, who now has the capability to pull full scale operations on the digital front without ever being seen. If America were to commit an airstrike against Iran's nuclear facilities the world would quickly know about it and there'd be major repercussions. But what if you could knock one offline with a virus? Yeah that's already happened...

And don't think the US is safe from this sort of stuff either. A little while ago I saw a report that critical information concerning all the damns in the US was recently stolen. With the right hacking instruments in place this is information that could be used to cause the damns to burst, all of which could be done remotely from some bunker in any corner of the world.

I mean after the scare of nuclear annihilation we've had a couple decades of significant piece between global powers. But now military people simply being boys with their toys have a new playground where they can flush that progress all down the toilet, and for no good reason.
 

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...This does not make me feel in the slightest bit safe and confident in my actions.

Even if all I do is not even remotely dangerous...

World, please stop being so scary. I want peace.
 

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SanguiniusMagnificum said:
flarty said:
what ever stops the terrorists like al Qaeda. Would that be the some al Qaeda in syriabthe west has been funding?
Yes, because most Afghani caves are equipped with high-end routers. And since when is Al-Queda based in Russia, China or North-Korea?
Since when was the NSA not spying on numerous civilian populations around the globe, under the pretense of preventing terrorism? Do you really think this technique will be limited to Russia, China or North Korea after prism?
 

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TiberiusEsuriens said:
People forget that the weakest link in networks is not the computers themselves, but what lies in between.
The weakest link in networks is the dang users! XD "Why, no, actually, the blinking ad on your web page which claims your computer has been infected and wants you to download and install their anti-virus is not something you should click on. Please."
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
When people rob stores and boast about it on Facebook we call them idiots and the police arrest them.

What do we do when the Government hacks its citizens possessions, spies and steals their information, and then boasts about it online?
What I find interesting is why the rest of the world isn't acting on the fact, after all hacking into another nations computers is technically attacking said nation and thus an act of war. Bloody cowardly governments. Then again they all do it to some extent so they can't complain too much.