NSA Chooses to Hack Routers over PCs

Sofus

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Hacking is illegal regardless of who is doing it. I do have to wonder why no other country seems to care. If I was in charge of a country then I would simply get a nuclear missile program going and tell USA to mind their own buisness or get prepared for world war three (yeah I would actually push that big red button).
 

briankoontz

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I don't see that putting the world at severe risk of nuclear annihilation is the proper response to global NSA hacking.

The proper response when dealing with any rogue state is for the world to unite against it. The US is by far the most damaging criminal state in the world and the world should unite in opposition. This opposition can easily take an economic/political form - eliminating American military bases around the world, putting economic sanctions on the US (limiting the goods sold to and bought from multinational corporations with American ties), severely limiting American media and academia.

The model for this can be taken from the BDS movement against the state of Israel. Israel is a terribly damaging state but what they do is peanuts compared to the rampaging elephant of the United States.

The major problem with implementing this is that the US is enormously powerful. The US is China's best customer, and no salesman wants to piss off their best customer. The US has their fingers in everybody's pie, and the dogs of the world find it very difficult to bite the hand of the master. But the bite is the first step to freedom for all of us.

One organization that provides some hope is the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States, an early step to integrate South America without the domineering fist of the US and Canada. But much more needs to be done and many more countries need to get on board.
 

lacktheknack

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seydaman said:
...This does not make me feel in the slightest bit safe and confident in my actions.

Even if all I do is not even remotely dangerous...

World, please stop being so scary. I want peace.
I told someone else on this site that the only way to have true privacy is to put a fire ax through your computer. He stammered out how much of an idiot he was sure that I was.

Tragically, it's utterly true.

Just remember: You've been interacting with a dangerous leak in your security and privacy ever since you first connected to the internet. Nothing bad has happened now, and it will continue to not happen. Keep that in mind if you wish to stay sane.
 

lacktheknack

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Sofus said:
Hacking is illegal regardless of who is doing it. I do have to wonder why no other country seems to care. If I was in charge of a country then I would simply get a nuclear missile program going and tell USA to mind their own buisness or get prepared for world war three (yeah I would actually push that big red button).
This is why you aren't in charge of a country. If you were in the diplomatic position to even authorize a nuclear strike, you wouldn't be a UN-involved superpower, so first your missile would be shot down before even leaving your borders, and then your entire country would be utterly annihilated in minutes.

Also, you're a terrible person for lobbing nukes. Just saying.
 

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Well guess its time to go out on the balcony, look up, and smile for the satellite picture. All hail the coming of the Digital Cold War!

"So be good, for goodness sake, whoa oh oh oh, somebodies commin...."
 

Eve Charm

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Hey guys, Lets add 652 million on to our Trillions of dollars of debt in hopes someone didn't update the security on their router >.< It really shows how pathetic our country is getting when we'll drop over half a mill to spy on other countries internet usage, cause their paranoid about things?

Hell you just know a month from now someone will cover a story about under cover US agents Kicking in some Grandma's door because Little Billy a 5 year old was planning and posting on a attack in someone's Minecraft world.
 

Pinkamena

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RandV80 said:
snippy

And don't think the US is safe from this sort of stuff either. A little while ago I saw a report that critical information concerning all the damns in the US was recently stolen. With the right hacking instruments in place this is information that could be used to cause the damns to burst, all of which could be done remotely from some bunker in any corner of the world.

I mean after the scare of nuclear annihilation we've had a couple decades of significant piece between global powers. But now military people simply being boys with their toys have a new playground where they can flush that progress all down the toilet, and for no good reason.
Pretty much everyone "in the know" about the state of the military and the hacking scene agree that any future big military actions, e.g. invading a country, will be preceded by a cyberattack to cripple infrastructure and communications, making it easier to invade said country. South Korea has been hit with a few medium-sized cyberattacks. I guess it's North Korea practicing.
 

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We are nearing a crossroads, my friends. We have discarded privacy for the sake of convenience, and our ugliest secrets will soon be put on parade. The images we carefully groom to represent ourselves will complete their deterioration, falling away from us. Then, and only then, will we see how tolerant we really are as a people.
 

Slash2x

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wombat_of_war said:
slash2x said:
And this this right here is why I use a custom Kernel for my router. Linux FTW. Does it make me unhackable? HELL NO! Nothing is perfect. But it does make me a more difficult target,and like robbers who wants to go to the difficult house when the same results are at an easier to reach one.
the irronic thing is it probably makes you more of a target because you have higher than average security. you must be hidding something and that means you are a terrorist of some sort
HAHA you set off my trap card! (Seriously I knew someone would say that I am just surprised it took this long. )

And I am hiding something TERABYTES OF PORN! And some launch thingies.....
 

Hazy

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Evil Smurf said:
bloody hell, why is the American government so corrupt?
I'm afraid it's not just the American government, amigo.

Sofus said:
Hacking is illegal regardless of who is doing it. I do have to wonder why no other country seems to care. If I was in charge of a country then I would simply get a nuclear missile program going and tell USA to mind their own buisness or get prepared for world war three (yeah I would actually push that big red button).
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
 

briankoontz

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Norithics said:
We are nearing a crossroads, my friends. We have discarded privacy for the sake of convenience, and our ugliest secrets will soon be put on parade. The images we carefully groom to represent ourselves will complete their deterioration, falling away from us. Then, and only then, will we see how tolerant we really are as a people.
Our strategy of self-glorifying our good intentions through saving the world in video game after video game, cleansing the world of "monsters" to the vast benefit and gratification of the virtual civilized people, deluding ourselves into all-powerfulness by mowing down wave after wave of "bad guys" in shooters, and then returning to a real world made all the grayer and more decrepit by our absence may not be such a good one.

The dark belief underlying all of this is that imperial nations, led by Japan and the United States, are so corrupt that their people simply can no longer do good in the world, therefore they might as well turn to the virtual worlds. Of course gamers never address this, I'm typically shut down, ignored, or personally attacked whenever I broach the topic, although ironically I'm the good guy - I don't share the dark belief of gamers and fully believe that even rich, fat, miserable people from imperial nations can do good in the world - in fact I've witnessed it many times.

But getting these rich, fat, miserable gamers to believe in themselves - that's the difficulty.

It's funny that we honor those who fight against monsters. But I've found in my life that I keep having to fight against humans, while monsters do not exist.
 

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Can I say that I'm thrilled that I don't live in America.

Our goverment may be shady but it doesn't go the full mile to spy on people. Even if they did, it might be hard for them to do that because I don't got a router. So there's that.
 

1337mokro

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It's always nice to know that every government in the world is watching the same porn as you.

I mean seriously do you think it's just the NSA? You have about 15 different countries hacking your router at any given time. Privacy stopped being a thing when we no longer had to leave our house to get our jollies off.