Nvidia, ATI Get Bad News In Price-Fixing Lawsuit
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I have CPUICE running, otherwise something like HL2 would shut down the system heat security. Uh...3 years, yes, anything more graphically intense produces more problems...some games get about 2 fps. Most can't do translucencies.ReepNeep said:
That card isn't exactly made for new games. have you considered a new PC?The_root_of_all_evil said:
Many times, but finances tend to proclude luxuries atm.Aries_Split said:
and my motherboard only accepts AGP.
I had the same problem as you root. I bought a stock PC from HP around 2004, and now I know about PC specs, I checked out my PC specs. I was planning an upgrade, but unfortunately my motherboard runs AGP as well. May I suggest a 7600GT? I've got one, and it's a good card. I have no complaints, and I've been playing Far Cry, practically everything on High, and the only time it stutters is during the cutscenes, and even then not so much.The_root_of_all_evil said:Many times, but finances tend to proclude luxuries atm.
From what you've said it sounds like that 9600 is on it's last legs.
The 7600GT is a pretty good card and should be able to run any of the UE3 games at medium detal. ATI made the 3850 in AGP flavor and its a hell of allot faster than the 7600 while not costing much more at this point (at least as computer parts go). It doesn't sound like you're interested in buying ATI again but Nvidia cards are significantly harder to find in AGP.
The 7600GT is a pretty good card and should be able to run any of the UE3 games at medium detal. ATI made the 3850 in AGP flavor and its a hell of allot faster than the 7600 while not costing much more at this point (at least as computer parts go). It doesn't sound like you're interested in buying ATI again but Nvidia cards are significantly harder to find in AGP.
This isn't about people whinging that something is expensive; it's about two companies making prices artificially high through collusion. That's not just annoying- it's illegal. No one likes monopolies because they keep prices artificially high for no good reason other than that the monopoly knows you can't buy anywhere else. Cartels are worse because they fool customers into thinking there's competition and fair pricing while they gouge people in secret.Fandan said:
I can't afford a Ferrari either, but that's because Ferraris are expensive to make. If they actually cost $10 to make but were sold at $100,000 because every car company is working together to keep prices high, and thus increase their profit margin by a huge factor, then yes I would sue Ferrari.
I agree with the point... the high prices are hurting someone: PC game creators!
If the cards were more affordable then more people would buy them and open up the market for more customers. Plus, operating systems are gonna get more flashy (OSX, Vista, and beyond) and people are gonna want to watch HD movies with flashy interfaces and more. This will require dedicated graphics. This is why Intel is making the push into the market: Integrated graphics can no longer cut the mustard.
Trust me, this is more serious than just us deciding which card to buy to run Crysis. This has alot more going for it. Don't forget that many industries rely on graphics solutions for visual representations such as the medical and engineering. This affects more than you think, so research before just declaring it a whiny argument.
If the cards were more affordable then more people would buy them and open up the market for more customers. Plus, operating systems are gonna get more flashy (OSX, Vista, and beyond) and people are gonna want to watch HD movies with flashy interfaces and more. This will require dedicated graphics. This is why Intel is making the push into the market: Integrated graphics can no longer cut the mustard.
Trust me, this is more serious than just us deciding which card to buy to run Crysis. This has alot more going for it. Don't forget that many industries rely on graphics solutions for visual representations such as the medical and engineering. This affects more than you think, so research before just declaring it a whiny argument.
Has anyone read the litigation?TheKbob said:
The alleged price fixing happened many years ago
Of course they could be colluding over current prices to, however if they were performance/price would be much closer and they'd probably be getting sued for the current generation too.
You know those large medical MRI machines and the such. Well people want real time 3D displays of a person's internals to better diagnose problems. With more and more powerful graphics technologies, this is becoming a real time option. Check out the nVidia Quadro line. For workstation graphics. I know here at GE Aviation, there are workstations such as the power our 3D model systems for our engines. It's VERY effective to render an entire engine and look for interferences based off that instead of building the entire thing and going "oops!". Trust me, you cannot render that many 3D components on integrated... I know, I have had toAries_Split said:
Next step, holograms. I know it, I've seen it in Bones.TheKbob said:You know those large medical MRI machines and the such. Well people want real time 3D displays of a person's internals to better diagnose problems. With more and more powerful graphics technologies, this is becoming a real time option. Check out the nVidia Quadro line. For workstation graphics. I know here at GE Aviation, there are workstations such as the power our 3D model systems for our engines. It's VERY effective to render an entire engine and look for interferences based off that instead of building the entire thing and going "oops!". Trust me, you cannot render that many 3D components on integrated... I know, I have had toAries_Split said:
But the thing is, you can go out and get a cheap handbag that has all the uses that a ridiculously overpriced handbag, same with a car. But with a gpu you just can't do that. I NVIDIA and ATI were colluding over prices that gives them a virtual monopoly over the market right?Fandan said:
Search the web... people are seriously wanted that technology and working on various forms for new forms of digital, HD projection.Arbre said:
Also, check out some of the graphics card tech and displays that are pushing A) for 3D built into the cards (you just need those clear special 3D glasses) or screens that allow different viewing angles so there is no long split screen... player on the left sees only the 1st player stuff and player 2 only sees the 2nd player stuff all by where they sit.
Real stuff, look it up!