Nvidia's GTX 1080 is Much More Powerful Than a Titan, $400 Less

[Laughing Man]

Eh, my EVGA 780ti is still happily running everything at max, games have flat lined so much that it'll be awhile before I even need to look at anything going down let alone medium settings.

Yup don't see anything here or upcoming game wise that is going to shift me from my 980. Well maybe Vulcan support we'll have too see though.

 

[Rednog]

Do not buy top end hardware... it is absolutely terrible price/performance...

Get an R9 390 instead of a 980. You dont need it anyway. Now at least you have learned.

Not everyone likes AMD, and especially with the 980 people bought it when Gsync came out.

Dammit, dammit, dammit. And I bought a GTX980ti just last month.

Oh well, should last me a good few years anyway and I got a good deal on it.

I honestly wouldn't be worried, at the very ideal the performance difference won't be that insane. The rule of thumb I usually follow is to buy a card, and keep using it until I have to crank down settings to med-high. At that point I check the price of another of the same card. If it's cheap enough I go SLI and extend the life out a few more years before I full upgrade, and I can usually get a hundred or two on ebay when it's time to upgrade.

 

[Gorrath]

I'm still using a 660ti and have no issues whatsoever. Granted that's because I don't tend to buy games that require huge resources. IMO most of the best PC gaming is done with games that could easily run on a toaster.

 

[major_chaos]

Do not buy top end hardware... it is absolutely terrible price/performance...

Get an R9 390 instead of a 980. You dont need it anyway. Now at least you have learned.

My issue isn't with the top end hardware, its not being able to guess when the top end hardware is going to stop being top end and be replaced by something new that offers flat better performance at a similar/same price point. Also if I had wanted to spend a few hundred less I would have bought a GTX 970 not a Radeon.

Yup don't see anything here or upcoming game wise that is going to shift me from my 980. Well maybe Vulcan support we'll have too see though.

IIRC the 900 series supports Vulkan so you're good.

 

[major_chaos]

Then ask me. Will tell you when it will stop being high end. I monitor these things. I am serious, will lend a hand. We have known this for many months (January I think, reasonable assumptions since October).

I bought my 980 February 2015 so before anyone knew anything about these new cards.

Also, the GTX 970 is objectively inferior to the R9 390 (AMD equivalent), especially for an experienced user.

By who's benchmarks? GPUboss flat out hands it to the 970 ( http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-390-vs-GeForce-GTX-970 ) and Techspot has 390 better by a whopping 1-4 frames

It is your money and your choice, but it is also stupid and shortsighted.

Which is why I buy high end cards that will last god knows how long. Sure I'm frustrated that I could have gotten a better value proposition if I had waited another year, but I'm willing to bet my 980 will still run DOOM at 60FPS max settings later this month. The next upgrade I make will likely be because a part died rather than faltering performance.

Even their drivers are worse these days.

If that's true then a lot has changed since the 7950 underwhelmed the shit out of me back in 2012.

 

[major_chaos]

My 2009 ATI 5770 OCed 1GB still plays new games.

"Plays" or "plays at max settings at 1920x1080 at a rock solid 60FPS"? Because if I'm going to bother playing on PC I want the latter and I'm 99% sure a high end GPU is going to deliver that far longer.

 

[major_chaos]

Your logic is ... not something I'd consider logical though, as no GPU can do that. Not even the 980 TI can do that. Maybe 2-3 of those can max out all games at 60 fps and 1920x1080. But not one 980 TI, let alone a simple 980/390X/Fury*.

Fallout 4(when it isn't being derpy but that's a lolBethesda issue not the GPU), The Witcher 3, Overwatch, Dark Souls 3. All shiny recent releases, all running at 60FPS with a mix of high/ultra settings.

 

[fix-the-spade]

a few years ago the enthusiast level graphic card costed $150 (example radeon 5850) and the TOP level card, $200 (ex. radeon 5870), how much is the 1070 again?

Just to be incredibly pedantic, the HD5870 was $400 on release (or $379 for the reference card, but who buys a reference card?), whilst the top end HD5970 was $600.

In the seven years since then prices haven't really moved much. A GTX980ti was $650 on release, the only $1000+ cards were engineering willy waving like the HD7990 (two HD7970s bolted together in permanent Crossfire, Arc Reactor needed to power it not included)) or the TitanX (workstation GPU pretending to be for gaming).

I'm hoping these claimed performance figures are at least close to being true. GPUs need a big jump to make VR a realistic proposition for most people. These claimed numbers would mean the GTX1060 can probably do VR as and when it arrives, which would be huge.

More relevant to me, with that kind of VRAM and speed I can run a 4k screen and a Cintiq at the same time without the thing going into jet fighter mode. Exciting times.

Now it's AMD's turn.

 

[Zipa]

While I will say wait for proper (aka not Nvidia) benchmarks before buying as well as wait a month or two to see what AMD comes out with their are at least somewhat possible since this is the first die shrink of the GPU chip in a long time for Nvidia.

 

[enginieri]

"The cost of entry to PC gaming gets cheaper and cheaper every single year"
Ermmmm ahem, a few years ago the enthusiast level graphic card costed $150 (example radeon 5850) and the TOP level card, $200 (ex. radeon 5870), how much is the 1070 again?? (the modern 5850/ gtx 460 equivalent)? How much the future top level Titan sucessor will cost? (I bet you around a thousand until the inevitable cheaper 1080ti follows making it look like "a bargain"....)

They are getting more expensive, but it's not quite as bad as you made out. The 5850 was actually $259 at launch, and the 5870 was $379.

My bad, those where online prices for the 6850/6870, at the height of the ATI / NVIDIA price wars, let's hope Polaris will put enough pressure on Nvidia for the sake of us the consumers.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

As they say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so I'm going to watch this with a critical eye until the trusted benchmarking sites get their hands on this new generation of cards.

...that being said, I'll also hold off getting a new card until then. If nothing else, new releases usually mean price drops for previous ones.

Not everyone likes Nvidia either. After... getting bitten twice in a roll, never again.

Maybe you wouldn't have gotten bitten if you weren't in a roll!

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

I honestly wouldn't be worried, at the very ideal the performance difference won't be that insane. The rule of thumb I usually follow is to buy a card, and keep using it until I have to crank down settings to med-high. At that point I check the price of another of the same card. If it's cheap enough I go SLI and extend the life out a few more years before I full upgrade, and I can usually get a hundred or two on ebay when it's time to upgrade.

I know, I'm not worried. My new rig should keep me going for a good number of years to come. Just a little bummed that I could've gotten more for my money had I waited 2 weeks longer.

 

[EndlessSporadic]

I'm happy with my 980ti for now. Runs almost everything at 60FPS on ultra (even if it gets up to 95%-100% GPU usage for some reason).